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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 1 @ 12:32 PM ET
I wonder if hexy is more interested in keeping the Phantoms in tact for hopefully a long playoff then acquiring draft picks in an average draft class. Let the prospects get a good taste of professional playoff hockey. Just throwing the idea out there
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 1 @ 12:32 PM ET
I wonder if hexy is more interested in keeping the Phantoms in tact for hopefully a long playoff then acquiring draft picks in an average draft class. Let the prospects get a good taste of professional playoff hockey. Just throwing the idea out there
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 1 @ 12:32 PM ET
There are no roster tweaks the Flyers can make?

Seems like teams are throwing conditional 3rd/4th rounder around like candy.

Maybe we are like the ugly girl at the bar. We'll turn pretty around last call when teams are desperate.

- J35Bacher



On a serious note, one would think that there are all kinds of things that the Flyers could do to make at least a marginal improvement to this team... and thats what its all about right? Trying to make the team at least a little better at every opportunity?

And, up until the bar closes (3pm for this bar), many things are still possible.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
I still hope Streit is moved for something today, but if he understands how much he has regressed and is interested in signing a low 1 year deal and being a mentor I'm not necessarily against that assuming a few things...

*Delzotto and Shultz are moved today or at least not resigned for next year.
*Hextall is willing to waive Manning to send him to the AHL next year assuming 2 of the kids look good in camp.

That would leave the team with:

Provorov
Gudas
Gostisbehere
MacDonald
Kid #1 (Morin?)
Kid #2 (Hagg? / Sanheim?)
Streit

Streit plays the role of 7th defenseman, with Manning in the AHL ready to be brought back up if more injuries occur. Manning's start this year made me think maybe he could consistently be in the lineup every night as a bottom pairing defenseman on a good team, but based on most of this season, and last season, I think its clear that Manning is truly a borderline NHLer.

- pinkfloydfreak


What would Mark Streit be mentoring? He's never won a Cup. He's a defenseman who has never learned to defend. What Streit does well, not every defenseman who steps on the ice can do. Great offensive skill, no question. With this said, the rest of his game isn't great.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 12:33 PM ET
I wonder if hexy is more interested in keeping the Phantoms in tact for hopefully a long playoff then acquiring draft picks in an average draft class. Let the prospects get a good taste of professional playoff hockey. Just throwing the idea out there
- ravishingone



I believe that is a factor in who he would be willing to call up.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
I wonder if hexy is more interested in keeping the Phantoms in tact for hopefully a long playoff then acquiring draft picks in an average draft class. Let the prospects get a good taste of professional playoff hockey. Just throwing the idea out there
- ravishingone


TJ Brennan and Andy Miele need that playoff experience
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
There will be no flyer trades. Said this days ago.

No one Hextall is willing to trade has enough value to match hextalls perceived value of said players.

Mark Streit has 0 value
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Mar 1 @ 12:34 PM ET
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Hearing PHI closing in on extension with P-E Bellemare. Word is two years, $1.45M AAV. I'm a fan.

MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
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Hearing PHI closing in on extension with P-E Bellemare. Word is two years, $1.45M AAV. I'm a fan.


- JFlyers00


Clearly critical to resign right now. Unreal
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Mar 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
Well stop the press, please! Radko Gudas, cornerstone of any defense!
- SuperSchennBros

Gudas is better at 3/4 than Coburn trying to be a 1/2 and we got a first and 3rd round pic...that is a pretty solid move...It is not that Gudas is the cog of the D, it is that he fills the role he supposed on this roster
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman‏Verified account @FriedgeHNIC 35s35 seconds ago
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Hearing PHI closing in on extension with P-E Bellemare. Word is two years, $1.45M AAV. I'm a fan.


- JFlyers00

Next in line, Mark Streit so he can mentor young players...stuff...
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman‏Verified account @FriedgeHNIC 35s35 seconds ago
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Hearing PHI closing in on extension with P-E Bellemare. Word is two years, $1.45M AAV. I'm a fan.


- JFlyers00



Knew it was happening eventually. He is irreplaceable.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 1 @ 12:37 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman‏Verified account @FriedgeHNIC 35s35 seconds ago
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Hearing PHI closing in on extension with P-E Bellemare. Word is two years, $1.45M AAV. I'm a fan.


- JFlyers00



Little higher AAV than I wanted, but the re-signing was expected at some point.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
Gudas is better at 3/4 than Coburn trying to be a 1/2 and we got a first and 3rd round pic...that is a pretty solid move...It is not that Gudas is the cog of the D, it is that he fills the role he supposed on this roster
- JW98FlyerFan


Gudas has been a pleasant surprise since he started here. Huge fan.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
Clearly critical to resign right now. Unreal
- MikesPillBottle


Well if he resigns he won't be traded as everyone would hope for a UFA.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
Gudas is better at 3/4 than Coburn trying to be a 1/2 and we got a first and 3rd round pic...that is a pretty solid move...It is not that Gudas is the cog of the D, it is that he fills the role he supposed on this roster
- JW98FlyerFan


Radko Gudas isn't better than Brayden Coburn. Coburn was a top pair defenseman in Philly for just short of a decade. I'm sure his role has shorten in Tampa as he's gotten older but no, Gudas is not better than Coburn.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
Little higher AAV than I wanted, but the re-signing was expected at some point.
- MJL


Yeah 1.45 is a little high but it's not going to strap them
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
Radko Gudas isn't better than Brayden Coburn. Coburn was a top pair defenseman in Philly for just short of a decade. I'm sure his role has shorten in Tampa as he's gotten older but no, Gudas is not better than Coburn.
- SuperSchennBros


Not what he said.

ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
TJ Brennan and Andy Miele need that playoff experience
- Mononoke


It's potentially important to Hextall in that the career AHLers stay on the team to keep the Phantoms talent level high enough to hopefully have a longer playoff run. So guys like Morin, sanheim, hagg, and NAK get that experience. Certainly the Phantoms miss the talent of their 1st line center Wealthy being on the Flyers

SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
Gudas has been a pleasant surprise since he started here. Huge fan.
- MikesPillBottle

Gudas is a very nice player but in comparison to Coburn's body of work, it's not even close.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Mar 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
Yeah 1.45 is a little high but it's not going to strap them
- dragonoffrost


too much. Kids in the a can play the same game for less
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
I'm shocked there is no market for Amac
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
Radko Gudas isn't better than Brayden Coburn. Coburn was a top pair defenseman in Philly for just short of a decade. I'm sure his role has shorten in Tampa as he's gotten older but no, Gudas is not better than Coburn.
- SuperSchennBros


Please. Just because he played on the top pair with Kimmo doesn't mean he was as good. Sometimes you get slotted where your deficiencies are masked by the strengths of your partner.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Mar 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
Gudas is a very nice player but in comparison to Coburn's body of work, it's not even close.
- SuperSchennBros


Coburn also played with much better Flyer teams.

Gudas played with Streit.
Coburn with Timonen and Pronger.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 1 @ 12:42 PM ET
Not what he said.
- MikesPillBottle


Gudas as a 3/4 is better than Coburn as a 1/2. Nobody called Coburn a number one defenseman. So where is the point drifting off to?
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