I doubt there is any unwritten rule. I am sure some GMs will stop answering the phones at 12 and say I will get back to you first thing in the morning, but if they are willing to listen I think some GMs will pursue things relentlessly
- kevndevries

Rather than unwritten rule a better way to put it would be that the GMs that are awake probably know which other GMs are awake. I agree, some of them probably would go all night if they have the chance.

I am sure they have some idea of who is and isnt. I am sure they are all up bright and early to get ready for the day internally first and then go full speed up until the deadline

I would love to see a documentary about what is going on leading up to the deadline and how the processes all come together. That would be super cool to watch. Only problem is teams are so secretive on some of this stuff they might not want to cooperate.

Not expecting the hawks to do literally anything tomorrow but will still be checking for updates every 5 minutes on here for rumors haha
- kevndevries

We'll all be waiting...

I haven't seen anything on this, but Shalunov coming over possibly???


Maxim Shalunov is apparently waiting for his KHL release and he will come to Chicago once it happens. Looks like its a done deal on him joining Chicago this year.

Latvian KHL insider? Wrote for the hockeywriters before but don't know how legit.

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836610816166199297

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836624752928247808

I haven't seen anything on this, but Shalunov coming over possibly???


Maxim Shalunov is apparently waiting for his KHL release and he will come to Chicago once it happens. Looks like its a done deal on him joining Chicago this year.

Latvian KHL insider? Wrote for the hockeywriters before but don't know how legit.

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836610816166199297

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836624752928247808
- the_dough_boy

I remember Bowman saying something along the lines of they will for sure look at the possibility and try and get him to come, but they will deal with that after the deadline. So maybe next week we find out more. Something else to keep us on our toes a little after the deadline passes and we are all just waiting for the playoffs

I haven't seen anything on this, but Shalunov coming over possibly???


Maxim Shalunov is apparently waiting for his KHL release and he will come to Chicago once it happens. Looks like its a done deal on him joining Chicago this year.

Latvian KHL insider? Wrote for the hockeywriters before but don't know how legit.

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836610816166199297

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836624752928247808
- the_dough_boy

Continuing from before...
I would love to see him come over and get some games in with the Hawks. Worst case he doesnt look great and you dont use him for the run this year. Maybe try again next season and let him take more time to get used to it. Best case is he can become a contributor on some level. Has scoring potential and having that on lower lines is huge for a run

The Hawks should be aggressively shopping TVR at this point. Here's why...

The NHL has a new franchise in Las Vegas next year and with it, an expansion draft this summer. The expansion draft has 2 formats for teams to protect most of its current players:
7F/3D/1G or 8 skaters/1G

Teams are forced to protect all players with No Movement Clauses. Thus, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Anisimov, Keith, Seabrook, Hammer and Crow are required to be included which brings the Hawks totals to 4F/3D/1G. (Panarin, Schmalz, DeBrincat, Motte and Hinostroza among others all are exempt because they will have had less than 3 years of NHL experience).

Assuming Hartman is top priority to protect of the remaining players rostered (which he is), simple math brings you to the common sense conclusion to go with the 7F/3D/1G format, thus TVR will 100% be exposed as the 3 Defensemen spots are filled by Keith, Seabrook and Hammer.

Panik and Kruger likely round out your Fs (unless you're hoping to shed Kruger in which case I have no idea which other Forward they'd protect but it'd be someone else of far less significance).

Basically, moral of the story is you decide right now, is TVR going to help the Hawks win a cup this year? If that answer is 'Yes', you keep him. BUT if that answer is 'No' (which I think it, now, is), you trade him for whatever you can because odds are he's property of the Las Vegas Knights come June 21 if he on the Hawks roster at 3:01pm ET, March 1.

The Hawks should be aggressively shopping TVR at this point.

Basically, moral of the story is you decide right now, is TVR going to help the Hawks win a cup this year? If that answer is 'Yes', you keep him. BUT if that answer is 'No' (which I think it, now, is), you trade him for whatever you can because odds are he's property of the Las Vegas Knights come June 21 if he on the Hawks roster at 3:01pm ET, March 1.
- PuckAndSticks

Quality depth at defense is invaluable, and we have a shortage of RD. If Hjammer goes out for any length of time our 2RD is Rozival or an off handed Campbell... No bueno.

I'd rather risk losing him for nothing, or trading him piror to the expansion. I don't know if there is a hard date that the players can't be traded during between the playoffs or expansion draft, but we could always trade TVR.

Contrary to popular thought, we can still trade TVR after tomorrow. Whatever we trade him for (if it were some NHL player) wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs. Thats the reason we have the "trade deadline" which is more a "eligible for the playoffs through a trade" deadline"

I luv this stat...

In his first stint with the Hawks Odaya played in 219 regular season games, and...

...71 playoff games!

So 290 total games and about a quarter of those post season.

That's a pretty good run.

I luv this stat...

In his first stint with the Hawks Odaya played in 219 regular season games, and...

...71 playoff games!

So 290 total games and about a quarter of those post season.

That's a pretty good run.
- ArlingtonRob

Yeah, but he sucked during the 2012 playoff series against the Coyotes. Feel better now?

Yeah, but he sucked during the 2012 playoff series against the Coyotes. Feel better now?
- Dieselhead

The list of suck in the 2012 playoffs was long, and Oduya was a newby at the time.

The beloved "core" really blew.

The Hawks should be aggressively shopping TVR at this point. Here's why...

The NHL has a new franchise in Las Vegas next year and with it, an expansion draft this summer. The expansion draft has 2 formats for teams to protect most of its current players:
7F/3D/1G or 8 skaters/1G

Teams are forced to protect all players with No Movement Clauses. Thus, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Anisimov, Keith, Seabrook, Hammer and Crow are required to be included which brings the Hawks totals to 4F/3D/1G. (Panarin, Schmalz, DeBrincat, Motte and Hinostroza among others all are exempt because they will have had less than 3 years of NHL experience).

Assuming Hartman is top priority to protect of the remaining players rostered (which he is), simple math brings you to the common sense conclusion to go with the 7F/3D/1G format, thus TVR will 100% be exposed as the 3 Defensemen spots are filled by Keith, Seabrook and Hammer.

Panik and Kruger likely round out your Fs (unless you're hoping to shed Kruger in which case I have no idea which other Forward they'd protect but it'd be someone else of far less significance).

Basically, moral of the story is you decide right now, is TVR going to help the Hawks win a cup this year? If that answer is 'Yes', you keep him. BUT if that answer is 'No' (which I think it, now, is), you trade him for whatever you can because odds are he's property of the Las Vegas Knights come June 21 if he on the Hawks roster at 3:01pm ET, March 1.
- PuckAndSticks

Moose is the other forward

I remember Bowman saying something along the lines of they will for sure look at the possibility and try and get him to come, but they will deal with that after the deadline. So maybe next week we find out more. Something else to keep us on our toes a little after the deadline passes and we are all just waiting for the playoffs
- kevndevries

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't he have to be on the roster by tomorrow to be eligible for the playoffs?

I don't know why everyone has penciled in jurco on the 3rd line. He hasn't done anything at the nhl level I think he's more of a project for next year. I like Hinostroza and tootoo more then him in the lineup. He's only played a game he looked fast but that was it. I would prefer one more forward on the bottom 6 and dip desi out even though he actually threw some decent checks. I like hartman on the third line we can't have just one line that can throw a hit.

Wakey... Wakey Stan
Time to wake up and start dealing!

The Hawks should be aggressively shopping TVR at this point. Here's why...

The NHL has a new franchise in Las Vegas next year and with it, an expansion draft this summer. The expansion draft has 2 formats for teams to protect most of its current players:
7F/3D/1G or 8 skaters/1G

Teams are forced to protect all players with No Movement Clauses. Thus, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Anisimov, Keith, Seabrook, Hammer and Crow are required to be included which brings the Hawks totals to 4F/3D/1G. (Panarin, Schmalz, DeBrincat, Motte and Hinostroza among others all are exempt because they will have had less than 3 years of NHL experience).

Assuming Hartman is top priority to protect of the remaining players rostered (which he is), simple math brings you to the common sense conclusion to go with the 7F/3D/1G format, thus TVR will 100% be exposed as the 3 Defensemen spots are filled by Keith, Seabrook and Hammer.

Panik and Kruger likely round out your Fs (unless you're hoping to shed Kruger in which case I have no idea which other Forward they'd protect but it'd be someone else of far less significance).

Basically, moral of the story is you decide right now, is TVR going to help the Hawks win a cup this year? If that answer is 'Yes', you keep him. BUT if that answer is 'No' (which I think it, now, is), you trade him for whatever you can because odds are he's property of the Las Vegas Knights come June 21 if he on the Hawks roster at 3:01pm ET, March 1.
- PuckAndSticks

I would NOT trade TVR now unless it netted a useful, very useful forward that will immediately help this team in the playoffs. Otherwise with Hammer on the IR and JO just coming off it I'd rather have the D depth as playoff insurance.

Ok boys so far so good me thinks. The competition got better too. Hopefully we can add 1 more useful forward.

Jerco and Oduya in.

McNeil, a 3rd, a 4th......out.

Nothing off the current NHL roster, and a couple of OK additions. Stay the course Stan. Unless a HUGE blockbuster, another depth add like these where we don't move Schmaltz, Hartman or DeBrincat.

Giving 2017 a fair shot at playoff success....yet, not destroying 2018 and beyond.

So far, so....welllll.....Ok, I guess...

I haven't seen anything on this, but Shalunov coming over possibly???


Maxim Shalunov is apparently waiting for his KHL release and he will come to Chicago once it happens. Looks like its a done deal on him joining Chicago this year.

Latvian KHL insider? Wrote for the hockeywriters before but don't know how legit.

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836610816166199297

https://twitter.com/AKHoc...status/836624752928247808
- the_dough_boy

The question becomes if he comes over, does he get plugged in next to the other two Russians? If that happens then Kane can move up to the top line with schmaltz. This allows Panik to drop down to the third line and Hartman down to the fourth line adding depth

Jerco and Oduya in.

McNeil, a 3rd, a 4th......out.

Nothing off the current NHL roster, and a couple of OK additions. Stay the course Stan. Unless a HUGE blockbuster, another depth add like these where we don't move Schmaltz, Hartman or DeBrincat.

Giving 2017 a fair shot at playoff success....yet, not destroying 2018 and beyond.

So far, so....welllll.....Ok, I guess...
- hawk35

I was working all day yesterday, and I'm not going to read 900 posts, but I really like both additions. I think Jurco has potential, and can learn from Hossa over the next month, and we basically got Oduya for nothing. Neither trade is a blockbuster, but we got a little better on both our bottom 6, and our D. With the way we've been playing the last two weeks, that may be enough. I'm not going to go crazy and say we should start planning the parade, but we definitely have a chance.

I was working all day yesterday, and I'm not going to read 900 posts, but I really like both additions. I think Jurco has potential, and can learn from Hossa over the next month, and we basically got Oduya for nothing. Neither trade is a blockbuster, but we got a little better on both our bottom 6, and our D. With the way we've been playing the last two weeks, that may be enough. I'm not going to go crazy and say we should start planning the parade, but we definitely have a chance.
- tvetter

This.

With Mcneil... nice kid, but clearly was getting pasted by other prospects and to get the D Help, that trade was a slam dunk. Got a guy who make the back end super solid for no piece that was in the plans in '17 or '18. Jurco was a nice pick up. Very similar situation to deal for Panik... bring in potential and hope he shines.

Stan can still Tweak, but those 2 little moves were gold as far as minor trades go.

I was working all day yesterday, and I'm not going to read 900 posts, but I really like both additions. I think Jurco has potential, and can learn from Hossa over the next month, and we basically got Oduya for nothing. Neither trade is a blockbuster, but we got a little better on both our bottom 6, and our D. With the way we've been playing the last two weeks, that may be enough. I'm not going to go crazy and say we should start planning the parade, but we definitely have a chance.
- tvetter

Even before the moves, with Toews regaining his mojo, the emergence of some balanced scoring with 8, 14, and 38 joining the party among other things, I'd say they were definitely contenders to potentially emerge from the West at the least.

JO solidifies the D depth...if the Jurco move pans out could add a bit more scoring to the bottom 6 and Stan got both done for 3rd, a 4th and McNeil who needed a change of scenery much like Jurco.

Even if Stan doesn't find a deal to his liking today I think the Hawks are in good shape and have a ptentially fun one with the Pens tonight.

Like 35 I think said a few posts ago, they've given themselves a legit shot this year without parting with players who figure to have an imapct next year as well.

Need JJ to give us some intel here. The twitterverse is pretty quiet. Only LeBrun awake. Says Habs still looking to acquire some size up front. They were in big on Duchene as were the Isles. Rumors that Eberle is in play as well. LeBrun also saying that Vanek will loosen up once Vrbata moves.

Nashville: Josi, Subban, Ellis, Ehholm, Irwin, Y.Weber

Washington: Carlson, Alzner, Niskanen, Orlov, Shattenkirk, Schmidt

I think the Hawks d-corps are right there with Nashville and Washinton

What other teams have good d-corps?
- EbonyRaptor

Fwiw, how many of those dmen have won a cup, experience matters.