Rumors Caps now hard after Doan

Shattenkirk is NOT a 1st pairing guy. 2nd pairing and PP specialist. He is terrible at defense. Still great on the PP! Good luck and thanks for the picks!!!

Doughty, weber, keith, hedman, eckman larrson, burns, karleson, subban, sutter, peiterangelo, giordono, these are #1 defenseman. to put orlov and niskenen in this group is absurd
- Upstate_isles

Orlov is better than Weber at this point in their careers. He's better than Keith right now too. And Suter. And Peiterangelo.


Here's the thing about me: I try not to rate a player based on his reputation. Obviously Orlov isn't going to hit the heights of those guys I mentioned (excepting Pieterangelo who's crazy overrated) at their peaks, but they are all in decline by several years.

Shattenkirk is NOT a 1st pairing guy. 2nd pairing and PP specialist. He is terrible at defense. Still great on the PP! Good luck and thanks for the picks!!!
- cuethenoise

Why would St. Louis, trade Shattenkirk?

The Caps are willing to pay to get him for 2 months. The Blues could have kept him, paid nothing, and had him for 2 months. Since they'll likely be a playoff team, this move is so stupid.

Who cares if you lose him for nothing? If you'd rent a player, then keeping your own rental is like getting a rental for free. F the St Louis GM> I'd be so mad right now if I cared at all about the Blues.

Orlov is better than Weber at this point in their careers. He's better than Keith right now too. And Suter. And Peiterangelo.


Here's the thing about me: I try not to rate a player based on his reputation. Obviously Orlov isn't going to hit the heights of those guys I mentioned (excepting Pieterangelo who's crazy overrated) at their peaks, but they are all in decline by several years.
- james_tanner1

youd seriously take orlov over weber right now if offered the chance to trade them head up?

Shattenkirk is NOT a 1st pairing guy. 2nd pairing and PP specialist. He is terrible at defense. Still great on the PP! Good luck and thanks for the picks!!!
- cuethenoise

Enjoy your late first, non-NHL rookie, and maybe a 2nd?

Orlov is better than Weber at this point in their careers. He's better than Keith right now too. And Suter. And Peiterangelo.


Here's the thing about me: I try not to rate a player based on his reputation. Obviously Orlov isn't going to hit the heights of those guys I mentioned (excepting Pieterangelo who's crazy overrated) at their peaks, but they are all in decline by several years.
- james_tanner1

We'll have to revisit this orlov>Keith thing after the playoffs my dude..

Why would St. Louis, trade Shattenkirk?

The Caps are willing to pay to get him for 2 months. The Blues could have kept him, paid nothing, and had him for 2 months. Since they'll likely be a playoff team, this move is so stupid.

Who cares if you lose him for nothing? If you'd rent a player, then keeping your own rental is like getting a rental for free. F the St Louis GM> I'd be so mad right now if I cared at all about the Blues.
- james_tanner1

Honestly the guy is a defensive liability. He was on the ice for so many key goals against in the playoffs it wasn't even funny. Parayko made him expendable for us. We lost Backes and Brouwer for nothing last year. The fans would have lost it if we didn't move Shatty.

Enjoy your late first, non-NHL rookie, and maybe a 2nd?
- Blackstrom2

Me thinks the west Indiana blues are gonna have it rough the next few years. No identity

Enjoy your late first, non-NHL rookie, and maybe a 2nd?
- Blackstrom2

We have drafted a lot of NHL players in 2nd round or later. Just off the top of my head Backes and Parayko....

You have one mission. GO OUT THERE AND BRING THAT CUP TO NJ! Wait, DC!

I feel so bad for any team playing the Caps for the rest of the year and in the playoffs

We'll have to revisit this orlov>Keith thing after the playoffs my dude..
- beerkeeper30

yea this is insane

They are in the top 30 defenseman in the NHL.

That's what makes you a #1

IN Niskanen's case, he's a shot suppression machine. When he's on the ice, the Caps have the puck.

He's also in his fourth consecutive 30+ point season.

So he's giving you A grade defense and A- offense.

As for my boy Orlov: He does basically the same thing, with slightly better defense and slightly worse offense.

They're both legit top pairing guys and could easily anchor a lesser team's entire core.
- james_tanner1

Can we see the full list of 30 please?

I feel so bad for any team playing the Caps for the rest of the year and in the playoffs
- Maverick1818

Why? Still the Caps.

Why would St. Louis, trade Shattenkirk?

The Caps are willing to pay to get him for 2 months. The Blues could have kept him, paid nothing, and had him for 2 months. Since they'll likely be a playoff team, this move is so stupid.

Who cares if you lose him for nothing? If you'd rent a player, then keeping your own rental is like getting a rental for free. F the St Louis GM> I'd be so mad right now if I cared at all about the Blues.
- james_tanner1

Don't understand this either .have they given up on this year, I think that's illy. If you flip that thought it shows why Wild paid so much for Hanzel, if you think you have a shot at the cup and there is someone you think is gonna help. you make the move , your only giving up late first round draft picks.

Why? Still the Caps.
- Blackstrom2

Well, one of the worlds best goalies, an extremely solid defensive core, the ability to score at will, leadership all across every line, the best goal scorer in the world, who has been saving himself for the playoffs and one of the best coaches in hockey.

They are going to have the ability to steamroll almost any team

Can we see the full list of 30 please?
- CHI-HAWKS7

I second this. I feel like there are more than a few that'll "surprise" us.

Well, one of the worlds best goalies, an extremely solid defensive core, the ability to score at will, leadership all across every line, the best goal scorer in the world, who has been saving himself for the playoffs and one of the best coaches in hockey.

They are going to have the ability to steamroll almost any team
- Maverick1818

Nothing matters until they show up in the playoffs. Will depth scoring suddenly disappear entirely again? Probably.

Well, one of the worlds best goalies, an extremely solid defensive core, the ability to score at will, leadership all across every line, the best goal scorer in the world, who has been saving himself for the playoffs and one of the best coaches in hockey.

They are going to have the ability to steamroll almost any team
- Maverick1818

I kinda want to see them add Sharp just to be really cruel

Why would St. Louis, trade Shattenkirk?

The Caps are willing to pay to get him for 2 months. The Blues could have kept him, paid nothing, and had him for 2 months. Since they'll likely be a playoff team, this move is so stupid.

Who cares if you lose him for nothing? If you'd rent a player, then keeping your own rental is like getting a rental for free. F the St Louis GM> I'd be so mad right now if I cared at all about the Blues.
- james_tanner1

Because they're not winning the cup this year...really slim chance. Do you realize how mad you'd be if you cared about the Blues, lost in the playoffs and then immediately thought 'We should've traded Shattenkirk'

Nothing matters until they show up in the playoffs. Will depth scoring suddenly disappear entirely again? Probably.
- Blackstrom2

the pens are you're biggest challenge but I think the caps beat them this year. Rangers can score and have hank but their d is thin in front of him and you'll wear him down, also look what pens did to their d. Columbus is physical and has bob but they are inexperienced. Atlantic division leaving the isles who play you better than most everyone but in 7 games not a chance, also we will probably fall off on this road trip

How about Granlunds blowing through about 25mil+ in cap space there!! What a Hogg! !

Nothing matters until they show up in the playoffs. Will depth scoring suddenly disappear entirely again? Probably.
- Blackstrom2

Exactly what happened. Williams,MarJo,Kuz and Burakovsky disappeared. Noted playoff choker Oshie was phenominal

the pens are you're biggest challenge but I think the caps beat them this year. Rangers can score and have hank but their d is thin in front of him and you'll wear him down, also look what pens did to their d. Columbus is physical and has bob but they are inexperienced. Atlantic division leaving the isles who play you better than most everyone but in 7 games not a chance, also we will probably fall off on this road trip
- Upstate_isles

literally the only reason the Pens got past the Caps last year was a hot goalie. More than likely not going to happen this year. They have a good team but the caps are the clear favorites.