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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 28 @ 12:17 PM ET
Idk, something a little crazy like 7.5m x 5 years to keep the term down.

Either it hurts in term or dollars. Pick your poison.

- Tumbleweed

He's asking for 7 apparently anyway. Why would he take 5 @ 37.5 over 7 @ 49? You think he's going to get almost 6/year on say a 2 year deal when he's 34 or whatever he'll be? Doubtful

It'd have to be a higher $ amount IMO
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Feb 28 @ 12:17 PM ET
Probably thinking its too soon to trade 2nd round picks. Seems to me this is a draft that you have a better shot at landing a Brandon Ross as opposed to a Boone Jenner.
- mykokes


I guess that's fair, I would've that a 3rd would do it. But Leafs had 3 2nd rounders this year, right? There's only so many contracts they can hold, so there is a such a thing as having so many picks they become expendable.

Plus, they didn't get Burrows.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
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1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Feb 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
Maybe you can top out at something over the top like $9m for 3 years for shattenkirk.

I’m not really a fan of paying alzner more than he makes now.

- Tumbleweed


I would be if the other option is just sitting on cap space.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Feb 28 @ 12:19 PM ET
Probably thinking its too soon to trade 2nd round picks. Seems to me this is a draft that you have a better shot at landing a Brandon Ross as opposed to a Boone Jenner.
- mykokes

Buy another 2nd if people feel we need 3 of em. We have a billion in cap space.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:20 PM ET
He's asking for 7 apparently anyway. Why would he take 5 @ 37.5 over 7 @ 49? You think he's going to get almost 6/year on say a 2 year deal when he's 34 or whatever he'll be? Doubtful

It'd have to be a higher $ amount IMO

- RickJames77


yeah, just spitballing. might take more.

though, with a flat cap, i don't think he gets more than the $6.35m Yandle got for 7 years.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 28 @ 12:21 PM ET
Mike Weber Placed on waivers
Marc-Andre Bergeron Placed on waivers
Gabriel Dumont Placed on waivers
Eric Fehr Placed on waivers
Chris DiDomenico Placed on waivers
Jyrki Jokipakka Placed on waivers
Joseph Cramarossa Placed on waivers

- Tumbleweed

Giant defenceman, yeah?
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Feb 28 @ 12:21 PM ET
Why are people acting like he's a 6'6 Ben Smith?
- 1979AD



i have no idea how anyone can be upset with this trade. weve picked 927tu327 times the past two drafts and still have alot of picks this draft. plus 862648 prospects in our system.

at some point the development of young superstars in the making should take a higher priority than collecting 800 average prospects.

imo developing their young budding nhl players in a winning atmophere is a higher priority than adding another 2 dermotts or loovs or braccos. we cant even get 1st round pick kapanen into our line up and people are worried about a 2nd round pick....when we still already have another 1 or 2 second round picks..


the team is sitting in a playoff spot as of today. its not like theyre going all in with elite prospects and 1sts while sitting 6 points out of a spot.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 28 @ 12:23 PM ET
yeah, just spitballing. might take more.

though, with a flat cap, i don't think he gets more than the $6.35m Yandle got for 7 years.

- Tumbleweed

Oh, I get it, I was just wondering what you thought would be a crazy number to shorten the term.

I'm thinking he gets around 6.5 a year for 7 years.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:23 PM ET
I would be if the other option is just sitting on cap space.
- 1979AD


I’m ok with overpaying good players in their ufa years. Can’t get around it.

Not a fan of paying average/low-end players more than an average salary, regardless of cap space.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:23 PM ET

1m
Bob McKenzie‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pending a trade call (not official until then), DET will get 2nd rder and 3rd rder, both in 2017, from NYR for Brendan Smith.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 28 @ 12:24 PM ET
1m
Bob McKenzie‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pending a trade call (not official until then), DET will get 2nd rder and 3rd rder, both in 2017, from NYR for Brendan Smith.

- Santo_44

Who's left?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 28 @ 12:24 PM ET
1m
Bob McKenzie‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Pending a trade call (not official until then), DET will get 2nd rder and 3rd rder, both in 2017, from NYR for Brendan Smith.

- Santo_44

Whoa
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:25 PM ET
Oh, I get it, I was just wondering what you thought would be a crazy number to shorten the term.

I'm thinking he gets around 6.5 a year for 7 years.

- RickJames77


Fair enough.

Maybe overpaying in salary is going to hurt more than I like to think.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:25 PM ET
Who's left?
- BetterCallSaul

There's actually quite a few. Good year for rentals...well maybe not for buyers
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:26 PM ET
Whoa
- RickJames77

Red Wings fans seem to not like him much

I would of rather done 1st, conditional 2nd and a meh prospect for Shatts

Then

2nd and a 3rd for Smith
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 28 @ 12:28 PM ET
Red Wings fans seem to not like him much

I would of rather done 1st, conditional 2nd and a meh prospect for Shatts

Then

2nd and a 3rd for Smith

- Santo_44

Yeah me too - what a crap trade for the Rangers.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 28 @ 12:28 PM ET
Waiver claim Jyrkki Jokkipakka....trade Polak and Marincin for 2nds and 3rds! My work here is done!
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 28 @ 12:28 PM ET
Waiver claim Jyrkki Jokkipakka....trade Polak and Marincin for 2nds and 3rds! My work here is done!
- mykokes

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
Yeah me too - what a crap trade for the Rangers.
- RickJames77

They are going to have a tough time beating the Pens and Caps. They need to do a lot more
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Feb 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
I’m ok with overpaying good players in their ufa years. Can’t get around it.

Not a fan of paying average/low-end players more than an average salary, regardless of cap space.

- Tumbleweed


Well what I mean is - you overpay the guy egregiously, but it's only for one year. So what if you're paying Alzner 8.5m for one year if you have 15m in cap space you can't use to sign anyone to term because you need it the following year to pay your young stud RFAs?

He gets some extra cash and another shot at his big UFA deal a year later and you get a better D corps next season.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
Whoa
- RickJames77


Right?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 28 @ 12:31 PM ET
Waiver claim Jyrkki Jokkipakka....trade Polak and Marincin for 2nds and 3rds! My work here is done!
- mykokes

the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 28 @ 12:31 PM ET
Well what I mean is - you overpay the guy egregiously, but it's only for one year. So what if you're paying Alzner 8.5m for one year if you have 15m in cap space you can't use to sign anyone to term because you need it the following year to pay your young stud RFAs?

He gets some extra cash and another shot at his big UFA deal a year later and you get a better D corps next season.

- 1979AD

Sign him and trade him for 2-2nds, they are all the rage you know...
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
Still pretty sure Washington should just completely load up and trade for JVR. Bowie and Vrana.

Adam French and I have spoken.
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