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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:38 PM ET
please no.

i'm already on the ledge from the hainsey/shattenkirk deals respectively.

if the pens traded for streit i think i might live stream myself drinking bleach.

- stayinthefnnet

No offense, but I would watch
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:40 PM ET
Considering they kept Vrana, it's a good trade for them. I'm shocked they did TBH. That team is stacked head to toe. They're Cup or bust.
- Mononoke

My friend told me they got Shattenkirk and I thought he might be gone.
I may have just been thinking about that hilarious Erat press conference they did though
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:42 PM ET
No offense, but I would watch
- YuenglingJagr


none taken. the show must go on.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:42 PM ET
My friend told me they got Shattenkirk and I thought he might be gone.
I may have just been thinking about that hilarious Erat press conference they did though

- YuenglingJagr


makes the return the coyotes got for hanzal (white?) look even more impressive.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:49 PM ET
makes the return the coyotes got for hanzal (white?) look even more impressive.
- stayinthefnnet

Weak draft though, so all these picks are useless
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:53 PM ET
Washington reacquired Copley too. Huge!
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:57 PM ET
Weak draft though, so all these picks are useless
- YuenglingJagr


Plenty of guys I still like in the first couple rounds
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:58 PM ET
Plenty of guys I still like in the first couple rounds
- Mononoke

Since we know pro teams pay for all the guys equipment...do you think anyone's been yelled at for breaking too many sticks?
Slipperypickle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 28 @ 12:10 AM ET
Plenty of guys I still like in the first couple rounds
- Mononoke


A lot of good players available just no generational talent. The first round will produce some good players especially in the top ten which is where this team will be drafting.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 28 @ 12:13 AM ET
Since we know pro teams pay for all the guys equipment...do you think anyone's been yelled at for breaking too many sticks?
- YuenglingJagr


I've always said they should switch back to titanium
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 12:24 AM ET
Streit totally seems like the type of guy the Rangers love to overpay for at the deadline. That would be a fun trade.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 28 @ 12:27 AM ET
A lot of good players available just no generational talent. The first round will produce some good players especially in the top ten which is where this team will be drafting.
- Slipperypickle


Yeah, I have my favorites in the top 5-10. I have my favorites elsewhere in the 1st and 2nd. Another great thing about picking so high, is that they also could get a top 40 pick as well. And if they trade some guys and get another 2nd and 3rd, who knows, maybe they can trade back into the 1st. It's at that point where the depth is rock solid; trading up is not a bad idea if they target someone.

Back in 2015, the Flyers -- though they traded up for Konecny using that 29th and 60th pick -- should have had the 37th pick too, where Brandon Carlo was taken. Except it was traded as part of the MacDonald trade. Those are valuable.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 1:48 AM ET
Giroux to the Habs for Alex Galchenyuk and a First in 2018.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 1:52 AM ET
Giroux to the Habs for Alex Galchenyuk and a First in 2018.
- SuperSchennBros


SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 2:17 AM ET

- Nucker101


Giroux and Laughton for Galchenyuk, their First in 2018 and their second in 2017.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:20 AM ET
Giroux and Laughton for Galchenyuk, their First in 2018 and their second in 2017.
- SuperSchennBros

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 28 @ 7:14 AM ET
Streit totally seems like the type of guy the Rangers love to overpay for at the deadline. That would be a fun trade.
- hereticpride



With a lot of guys already moved teams will get desperate as the deadline approaches. Streit will be moved. There are still teams that want defensive depth.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 28 @ 7:39 AM ET
With a lot of guys already moved teams will get desperate as the deadline approaches. Streit will be moved. There are still teams that want defensive depth.
- J35Bacher

Here's how I see it re deadline deals:
Streit: 95% chance he gets moved
MDZ: 90%
A goalie: 75%
Schultz: 50%
Bellemare: 50%
Any core player: 10%
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Feb 28 @ 7:43 AM ET
Trading giroux will be a mistake
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 7:43 AM ET
Do you do it now? No. It's too late

It should have been done when it became apparent that the Top 9 wasn't scoring enough

- AllInForFlyers


That kind of trade has to actually be available.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 28 @ 7:44 AM ET

- Nucker101

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 7:46 AM ET
So if that is the case, then there are no plaudits to be given to the management team that stands pat when the NHL roster they built is cratering

They might be good in 3-5 years. They might not. Doing nothing but waiting isn't going to guarantee it, one way or the other

You either hit on picks, hit on a FA signing, hit on a trade. But only using one of the three avenues available to you when other franchises are using three is not the way to go, imo

- AllInForFlyers


It's about timing in my opinion. How do you truly know what weaknesses you're going to have a few years ahead, and how your players are going to develop? Now is not the time for the Flyers to make depth trades.

There is a structure. Build through the draft, supplement with trades and free agency. Flyers aren't in the supplementing stage yet.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 28 @ 7:53 AM ET
Rental values are up and now shatty is off the market things should pick up with ufa's. Teams don't want to add more years of players they trade for to have to protect due to expansion draft. I'm hoping hextall doesn't wait too long to pull the trigger on his ufa's when teams are looking to add that missed out. Montreal, Ottawa, rangers, pens,flroida are just some of the teams just in the east looking to add. Chicago in the west needs vet d. Plenty of places to move players right now.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 28 @ 7:54 AM ET
Trading giroux will be a mistake
- Flyers Time



....for the team acquiring him.

Please finish the sentence.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 28 @ 8:05 AM ET
I would be much more surprised to see a big trade than I would to see no one traded at all..
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