Hey guys,

Long time reader or lurker depending on how you wanna look at it lol decided to finally create an account and throw my two cents into things here...

First off, thanks JJ for all info you share with all the die hard fans we have here. Gives all us die hard fans something to keep us busy in between the games.

Second, if the Hawks do go out and get Johnny Oduya back, which I think would be a solid depth move for us depending on the price, as long as Hammer is healthy I think the D-pairings would look a little something like this...

Keith-Seabs
Oduya-Hammer
Kempny-Soup

Like JJ said, Soup can play on the right side as well (although not his strong side), and while Coach Q seems to like playing TVR often given the choice of playing two of Kempny, Soup, and TVR it's likely gonna be the first two. I'm not a TVR basher by any means. I've always liked him. He's a solid third pair D-man. He'll make his mistakes, like everyone does, but he will make some really solid plays here and there which he did for us this past week. Quite a few occasions I noticed him putting in that extra effort to make the big play, but he lacks consistency. Kempny seems to just be getting better night in and night out and really looks like he could be a possible Top 4 D-man to go with our Big 3 if he continues to develop. As long as he continues to do that, and doesn't make a horendous mistake in a game or two I have no doubts he'll continue to play. Soup is definitely at the back end of his career, but as we all know Coach Q likes his vets so swapping him and TVR with Rosi being the 8th guy would be a solid plan IMO for the Playoffs this year.

As far as the forwards go, I would have loved to have seen the Hawks get Hanzal for his size and FO skill on our 3rd line to give us more depth down the middle but what Minnesota paid for basically a #3, at times a #2, C was not worth the price. Granted it was all Draft picks, but those will come in handy down the road when Minny starts losing players to to the cap crunch, look no further than our Hawks for example. Still would love to see a big strong Center added who can win FO's for us. Seems like Kruger isn't gonna fully be himself, at least for a little while, and having that guy would help take some of the pressure off our Captain.

I like the team we got right now. They are really starting to build some chemistry together and the results have come from it. I think they have a legit shot this year, but there still a handful of teams, who on paper, look to be stronger contenders. Like they always say though, all you have to do is get in and see what unfolds!

Thanks guys! See you around!

Send $$ back in one or both of the deals or retained salary. I think landing both is unlikely. Hawks won't trade that many assets necessary.
- John Jaeckel

It's about cap space remaining, the hawks have $3M plus in deadline cap space according to capfriendly and the rest of the season boyle is only owed approx. $460K and Oduya is only owed $900K. The numbers work without money going back.

Hartman-Kero-Hossa
Kruger-Boyle-Rasmussen

I'd guess something along those lines.
- 93Joe

Boyle will play 3C and 1LW at times imo.

I think you guys focus on FO% wayyyy too much.

It's about cap space remaining, the hawks have $3M plus in deadline cap space according to capfriendly and the rest of the season boyle is only owed approx. $460K and Oduya is only owed $900K. The numbers work without money going back.
- hawkss81

I don't think that's how it works.

Buffalo likely sellers.

Cody franson??? 30ish, 3 million or so.

Any fit????...maybe just cost a 3rd rounder????

Yeah they get an early exit out of the playoffs, don't believe in giving up an asset for future assets that won't help you in the playoffs this year.
- BetweenTheDots

That's assuming they even make the playoffs. That team isn't going to go deep, especially after losing Fabbri.

I think you guys focus on FO% wayyyy too much.
- Feds91Stammer

Whats the trophy given out to the guy with the best faceoff percentage?

There should be one, theres a trophy for everything else

I think you guys focus on FO% wayyyy too much.
- Feds91Stammer

https://youtu.be/eruE0fA42K4

Start at 2:52 mark for a good FO.

I don't think that's how it works.
- BlazinMike

pretty sure it is, its not as simple as the cap hit brings them over 73M. go to capfriendly or nhl.com and read some stuff on it, it's a lot more complicated than just having a number lower than another number.

Buffalo likely sellers.

Cody franson??? 30ish, 3 million or so.

Any fit????...maybe just cost a 3rd rounder????
- hawk35

Probably not, he's just big. He doesn't do much for me anyway.

Don't shellack me JJ....

but can Sharp take draws on one of the lower lines for the Hawks? Could address the scoring output issue and FO%. I know he did a stretch at 2C in 2010.....a lot of tread taken off the tires and not his natural position. Just trying to be creative...

It's about cap space remaining, the hawks have $3M plus in deadline cap space according to capfriendly and the rest of the season boyle is only owed approx. $460K and Oduya is only owed $900K. The numbers work without money going back.
- hawkss81

the 3 mil is based on AAV. I think there actual cap space is Like $800K (1.360M) So to make it work you would need to to do JO at 50% roughly.

Hey guys,

Long time reader or lurker depending on how you wanna look at it lol decided to finally create an account and throw my two cents into things here...

First off, thanks JJ for all info you share with all the die hard fans we have here. Gives all us die hard fans something to keep us busy in between the games.

Second, if the Hawks do go out and get Johnny Oduya back, which I think would be a solid depth move for us depending on the price, as long as Hammer is healthy I think the D-pairings would look a little something like this...

Keith-Seabs
Oduya-Hammer
Kempny-Soup

Like JJ said, Soup can play on the right side as well (although not his strong side), and while Coach Q seems to like playing TVR often given the choice of playing two of Kempny, Soup, and TVR it's likely gonna be the first two. I'm not a TVR basher by any means. I've always liked him. He's a solid third pair D-man. He'll make his mistakes, like everyone does, but he will make some really solid plays here and there which he did for us this past week. Quite a few occasions I noticed him putting in that extra effort to make the big play, but he lacks consistency. Kempny seems to just be getting better night in and night out and really looks like he could be a possible Top 4 D-man to go with our Big 3 if he continues to develop. As long as he continues to do that, and doesn't make a horendous mistake in a game or two I have no doubts he'll continue to play. Soup is definitely at the back end of his career, but as we all know Coach Q likes his vets so swapping him and TVR with Rosi being the 8th guy would be a solid plan IMO for the Playoffs this year.

As far as the forwards go, I would have loved to have seen the Hawks get Hanzal for his size and FO skill on our 3rd line to give us more depth down the middle but what Minnesota paid for basically a #3, at times a #2, C was not worth the price. Granted it was all Draft picks, but those will come in handy down the road when Minny starts losing players to to the cap crunch, look no further than our Hawks for example. Still would love to see a big strong Center added who can win FO's for us. Seems like Kruger isn't gonna fully be himself, at least for a little while, and having that guy would help take some of the pressure off our Captain.

I like the team we got right now. They are really starting to build some chemistry together and the results have come from it. I think they have a legit shot this year, but there still a handful of teams, who on paper, look to be stronger contenders. Like they always say though, all you have to do is get in and see what unfolds!

Thanks guys! See you around!
- Savetheembers33

Is Shalunov really coming over to play with the Hawks this year?
- z1990z

I have no idea.

pretty sure it is, its not as simple as the cap hit brings them over 73M. go to capfriendly or nhl.com and read some stuff on it, it's a lot more complicated than just having a number lower than another number.
- hawkss81

I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just saying that's how I thought it worked one time, but then was told I was wrong and it was explained to me (through a massive wall of text).

I'm bad with numbers so if you've read up on it and figured out the math, then cool beans.

- ILGolfer

Still at it, huh??

Rasmussen is 45.8%, and he doesn't have the wheels to cover like Kruger can. I just don't think he's an answer at 3C for the playoffs, other than limited 4th line minutes/depth.

Kero is game and improving and might be more of an answer because he can skate and has defensive instincts. I question whether he has the experience and temperament for the job though. Who is the secondary FO option on the PP? Ibelieve right now it's AA. I don't think that's sustainable or smart in the playoffs either. This is where you miss a healthy Kruger.

It also begs the question, why were they interested in Hanzal (they were, I mean go back and read Hedger's interview with him—everyone knew it)? I don't think it was to play W.
- John Jaeckel

Rasmussen is slow, not very good along the walls. Someone to plug in the 82 game season but not sure I want to see him play game 83

I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just saying that's how I thought it worked one time, but then was told I was wrong and it was explained to me (through a massive wall of text).

I'm bad with numbers so if you've read up on it and figured out the math, then cool beans.
- BlazinMike

yea man, no problem. I'm trying to understand it all and from what I've read that's it but there's so many scenarios and ways around things that I'm probably missing something too, just going off everything I've read about calculating real deadline cap space etc.

Don't shellack me JJ....

but can Sharp take draws on one of the lower lines for the Hawks? Could address the scoring output issue and FO%. I know he did a stretch at 2C in 2010.....a lot of tread taken off the tires and not his natural position. Just trying to be creative...
- phantasmo

Safe to say all options are being looked at right now. Sharp still has value and still skates well. He also adds another option on the PP. With the dumpster fire known as the Dallas Stars, why not try to nab Sharp and JO? Added motivation for both of them if they come back.

I think you guys focus on FO% wayyyy too much.
- Feds91Stammer

IMO, faceoffs are VERY important, esp on the powerplay and penalty kill. Even MORE SO, in the playoffs.

Buffalo likely sellers.

Cody franson??? 30ish, 3 million or so.

Any fit????...maybe just cost a 3rd rounder????
- hawk35

Only interested in Foligno from Buffalo (of players they may deal)

- ILGolfer

Hahaha thanks I appreciate it

I think you guys focus on FO% wayyyy too much.
- Feds91Stammer

It's not so much FO% as much as it is having another reliable option to take big Faceoffs come Playoff time. Coach Q swapped Kero and Kruger out quite a few times last night for Toews and that's not something you wanna have to continuously do in a, possible, long Playoff run.

Rasmussen is 45.8%, and he doesn't have the wheels to cover like Kruger can. I just don't think he's an answer at 3C for the playoffs, other than limited 4th line minutes/depth.

Kero is game and improving and might be more of an answer because he can skate and has defensive instincts. I question whether he has the experience and temperament for the job though. Who is the secondary FO option on the PP? Ibelieve right now it's AA. I don't think that's sustainable or smart in the playoffs either. This is where you miss a healthy Kruger.

It also begs the question, why were they interested in Hanzal (they were, I mean go back and read Hedger's interview with him—everyone knew it)? I don't think it was to play W.
- John Jaeckel

I don't disagree about the experience but there is a reason Kruger doesn't take faceoffs...And using a guy who is well below 50% instead of him is telling.

From what I heard the Wild gave a vg prospect...Hawks are short on those and also paid through the nose with draft picks. I could make the case the Hawks needed Hanzal more than the Wild but they didn't have the currency.

If another addition happens don't be surprised if it isn't a dman instead of a center.