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z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
45.8% for Moose.
53.0% for Boyle.

Boyle/Oduya are the targets now.

- Assman22




Fills in the gaps if we can land them. Boyle at 2 mill and JO making 3.75. How do you make that money work?
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Feb 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
Devils holding D Kyle Quincey out of tonight’s lineup, John Moore in. No trade yet but being held out just in case.
- walleyeb1


Think I'd rather have John Moore, but honestly don't know how he's been doing the past few years.

Really hope Stan doesn't go after Quincey
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
Fixed
- EbonyRaptor


Kempny won't play over Campbell....
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:41 AM ET
Honestly I don't think he's going anywhere, if he does the Blues are shooting themselves in the foot, unless it's for someone like Duchene, but if its a payroll dump then my money says the team will tank.
- BetweenTheDots

How are they shooting themselves in the foot? He's UFA after this season. If they move him now, they get something, If they don't, he walks. He already turned down an extension. They are shooting themselves in the foot if they DON'T move him.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:42 AM ET
Didn't that guy get hated out of Detroit?
- cnfan261311

No he just sucked due to bone spurs in his ankle and had surgery on at least one occasion. Can't skate at an NHL level anymore imo.

The way they acquired him was bad too but that is more hate on Holland.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Feb 27 @ 11:42 AM ET
Kempny won't play over Campbell....
- PatShart


Why not? You prefer Campbell over Kempny?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Feb 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
Why not? You prefer Campbell over Kempny?
- EbonyRaptor


I think he means what Q prefers
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Feb 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
Why not? You prefer Campbell over Kempny?
- EbonyRaptor



I dont. Kempny is starting to turn the corner and brings a more complete game. Not only that, he likes to throw the shoulder.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
Paired with TVR....probably

I'd feel more comfy with Campbell with TVR than Kempny/TVR...based on the experience factor

I don't think Campbell is a bad #5 at all
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 27 @ 11:51 AM ET
How are they shooting themselves in the foot? He's UFA after this season. If they move him now, they get something, If they don't, he walks. He already turned down an extension. They are shooting themselves in the foot if they DON'T move him.
- JRoenick97


Yeah they get an early exit out of the playoffs, don't believe in giving up an asset for future assets that won't help you in the playoffs this year.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Feb 27 @ 11:53 AM ET
Paired with TVR....probably

I'd feel more comfy with Campbell with TVR than Kempny/TVR...based on the experience factor

I don't think Campbell is a bad #5 at all

- PatShart


From an experience perspective - you have a point.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Feb 27 @ 11:57 AM ET
Is Shalunov the missing big center who can win faceoffs? Probably not, but ...

Shalunov took 786 faceoffs in the KHL this season (in 49 games - ~16 per game) and his winning percentage was 49.4%. I don't have the breakdown of PK faceoffs, but usually a players faceoff percentage is worse on PK than overall, so ...

But, who knows.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 27 @ 11:59 AM ET
Hey JJ. I know you said the Hawks are looking at Odyua coming back from the Stars, but what other defenseman they rumored to have their eye on? Any other names that you can release?
- spudrock512


Have not heard
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Feb 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
Is Shalunov the missing big center who can win faceoffs? Probably not, but ...

Shalunov took 786 faceoffs in the KHL this season (in 49 games - ~16 per game) and his winning percentage was 49.4%. I don't have the breakdown of PK faceoffs, but usually a players faceoff percentage is worse on PK than overall, so ...

But, who knows.

- EbonyRaptor



Is Shalunov really coming over to play with the Hawks this year?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 27 @ 12:00 PM ET
Fills in the gaps if we can land them. Boyle at 2 mill and JO making 3.75. How do you make that money work?
- z1990z


Send $$ back in one or both of the deals or retained salary. I think landing both is unlikely. Hawks won't trade that many assets necessary.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 27 @ 12:01 PM ET
Think I'd rather have John Moore, but honestly don't know how he's been doing the past few years.

Really hope Stan doesn't go after Quincey

- BlazinMike


Hawks targeted him I believe this past fall. They like him.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 27 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don't disagree the Hawks could use a player....But not as a faceoff option. When Moose plays....And if the playoffs started tomorrow he would be in the lineup-He takes almost all the faceoffs when on the ice with Kruger.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 27 @ 12:03 PM ET
Paired with TVR....probably

I'd feel more comfy with Campbell with TVR than Kempny/TVR...based on the experience factor

I don't think Campbell is a bad #5 at all

- PatShart


Experience is a comb nature gives us after we have gone bald. pair Campbell's experience with Kempny's body, you'd have a pretty damn good, mobile defenseman.

I kind of agree with Shart, err toward experience, but I thought Kempny had a nice game last night and he is cutting down the mistakes.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Feb 27 @ 12:03 PM ET
Fills in the gaps if we can land them. Boyle at 2 mill and JO making 3.75. How do you make that money work?
- z1990z


Boyle from Tampa??

If so, that'd be awesome--big, physical Forward.

I think the Hawks tried getting him when he was leaving NY.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Feb 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
I have to think they do not feel Max can help this year. I say that because you could have started talking to him a week ago and have not. and if start on Thursday this week. and agree (SIBIR would as well) it would take a few days at a Min and wouldn't he need some type of Visa or something that would take a week? IE it would seem Like a 2 week process. Maybe MAX does not want to come if we get another C/W. IE if we get Boyle (hypothetically) that would bounce both moose and Desi out of the lineup. Who would Max bounce out? Kero would be the next weakest link I guess or Jurco?
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
I think he means what Q prefers
- vabeachbear


The issue is if Q doesn't trust anyone but the top 3 to kill penalties in crunch time.
That's could lead to a fatigue issue in the playoffs.
Vanhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.06.2009

Feb 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
2014 kings had kopitar carter richards stoll down middle. the first two being all star players.

koivu staal hanzal don't exactly exude all star calibre talent. just guys.

hawks be just fine coming out of the central with what they have.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 12:05 PM ET
Hartman-Kero-Hossa
Kruger-Boyle-Rasmussen

I'd guess something along those lines.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 27 @ 12:08 PM ET
I don't disagree the Hawks could use a player....But not as a faceoff option. When Moose plays....And if the playoffs started tomorrow he would be in the lineup-He takes almost all the faceoffs when on the ice with Kruger.
- Al


Rasmussen is 45.8%, and he doesn't have the wheels to cover like Kruger can. I just don't think he's an answer at 3C for the playoffs, other than limited 4th line minutes/depth.

Kero is game and improving and might be more of an answer because he can skate and has defensive instincts. I question whether he has the experience and temperament for the job though. Who is the secondary FO option on the PP? Ibelieve right now it's AA. I don't think that's sustainable or smart in the playoffs either. This is where you miss a healthy Kruger.

It also begs the question, why were they interested in Hanzal (they were, I mean go back and read Hedger's interview with him—everyone knew it)? I don't think it was to play W.
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