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the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:14 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Erik_...s/836376494809231360?s=09

Seems like some decent options.

I'd opt for Johnson, could probably sign him for the same money as Flip after RFA negotiations.

Schmaltz-Toews-Panik
Super PAK
Jurco-Johnson-Hossa (that scoring third line though)
Kero/hino/?-Kruger/kero-Hartman

Thats sure as hell 4 lines to roll
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 27 @ 8:17 PM ET
Tampa just sold Bishop because they believe in vasilevsky, and more importantly don't need the huge cap hit of a goaltender to be FA bishop while they are trying to keep the offense intact. Seriously doubt they move for crawford IMO.

That said, I don't think the moves anything but a downgrade. Garrison is a mediocre bottom pair dman, budaj is meh and a UFA iirc, and but I would like flipper.

trim it down to kruger+pokka+? for flipper+? Leave flipper open for expansion, roll from there.

- the_dough_boy

Not long ago TB seemed like they had 2- #1 goalies and now both guys might be only good #2's. Things change quickly with goal tenders...When you have one that battles, doesn't stay "off" for long and has a Cup pedigree...It's tough to give him up.
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:19 PM ET
Its gotta be Johnson or Palat that gets moved. Not both


RumorBreak‏ @RumorBreak 15s16 seconds ago
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Hearing TB is shopping both Filppula and Johnson. NSH seems to like Johnson a lot.

- mrpaulish

If Nashville gets Johnson they are going to be tough to beat.....Althoughthey need an upgrade on Rinne
oconstyle85
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 27 @ 8:19 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Erik_...s/836376494809231360?s=09

Seems like some decent options.

I'd opt for Johnson, could probably sign him for the same money as Flip after RFA negotiations.

Schmaltz-Toews-Panik
Super PAK
Jurco-Johnson-Hossa (that scoring third line though)
Kero/hino/?-Kruger/kero-Hartman

Thats sure as hell 4 lines to roll

- the_dough_boy


Johnson would be a SWEET add...what's that going to cost? Same as Duchene?
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 27 @ 8:20 PM ET
Arthur Staple
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#Isles have placed Mikhail Grabovski on long term IR. Tells me a move is imminent.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 27 @ 8:21 PM ET
You know , some teams just know how to (frank) it all up. The Sens are on a decent run then this . WTF ? LOL


John Shannon‏Verified account @JSportsnet 23m23 minutes ago
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The Burrows 2 year extension in Ottawa will be made official tomorrow.
ILGolfer
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Northwest burbs, IL
Joined: 06.18.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:22 PM ET
Vaccines don't last forever in many cases..and in some situations, depending on age, you may not have been vaccinated against certain things....Whooping cough is one where it disappeared for a long time and resurfaced. My oldest son had it as an infant and it took awhile for doctor to find the issue. Actually the only way he did was my son coughed in front of him after all the blood work came back negative.
- Al


Scary scenario at the time I'm sure Al for your family with your son. And thanks to all who chimed in on the subject.

The article regarding Toronto was informative. Crazy to think that old farts like me (59), who've only had one of those boosters as a kid......I was never told by any doc (and I've had a yearly physical for 25+ yrs ) to get another one. Sucks for the Wild to have those guys go down but the bigger issue is......why the hell does this only seem to happen to hockey players?

You'd think football, basketball or even baseball players would get this type of things about the same % time as hockey players.

I blame Bettman!!!
oconstyle85
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 27 @ 8:23 PM ET
Arthur Staple
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#Isles have placed Mikhail Grabovski on long term IR. Tells me a move is imminent.

- mrpaulish



He also posted this 23 mins ago...
"BREAKING: #Isles have traded Travis Hamonic, Ryan Strome and a 2017 first round draft pick to the Avalanche in exchange for Matt Duchene"
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
Does anyone know if the Hawks medical staff is aware of the potential problem with mumps?

This whole situation seems ridiculous considering there's a vaccine!

From the CDC...

"Mumps can be prevented with MMR vaccine. This protects against three diseases: measles, mumps, and rubella. CDC recommends children get two doses of MMR vaccine, starting with the first dose at 12 through 15 months of age, and the second dose at 4 through 6 years of age. Teens and adults also should also be up to date on their MMR vaccination."
BMWChiFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 04.12.2016

Feb 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
It seems essential for cap purposes that the Hawks move Kruger after this year. With his injured wrist, inability to take draws, no offensive abilities and the poor performance of the PK (on which Kruger is a key member), can someone explain how they are going to be able to get rid of him?

I like both of our goalies a lot. If they decided they wanted to move CC after this year and re-sign Darling, what team(s) do you see wanting him at $6M cap hit for 3 more years? I don't see any, which is why I think our goalies are CC and Glass next year.
hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Erik_...s/836376494809231360?s=09

Seems like some decent options.

I'd opt for Johnson, could probably sign him for the same money as Flip after RFA negotiations.

Schmaltz-Toews-Panik
Super PAK
Jurco-Johnson-Hossa (that scoring third line though)
Kero/hino/?-Kruger/kero-Hartman

Thats sure as hell 4 lines to roll

- the_dough_boy


Do we really need another 5'8" player in Tyler Johnson though?
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
Johnson would be a SWEET add...what's that going to cost? Same as Duchene?
- oconstyle85


Same if not more. I'd wager more just because of you could retain him for up to 8 years where duchene is only a couple years of control. If we could get johnson on a Kucherov deal itd be awesome.

That said, we would not have enough cap space for it.

Maybe Kruger+Hartman/Schmaltz+forsling+?

I don't know if its worth it, but unless duchene is coming retained its going to be a tough sell. Maybe get johnson then trade during the draft ala Saad? WILD speculation.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
He also posted this 23 mins ago...
"BREAKING: #Isles have traded Travis Hamonic, Ryan Strome and a 2017 first round draft pick to the Avalanche in exchange for Matt Duchene"

- oconstyle85

Wow. Avs need some help on defense. They could use a guy like Hamonic.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
Do we really need another 5'8" player in Tyler Johnson though?
- hpk90

He is strong on his skates and has a low center of gravity. He battles... that's for sure.
BMWChiFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 04.12.2016

Feb 27 @ 8:26 PM ET
He also posted this 23 mins ago...
"BREAKING: #Isles have traded Travis Hamonic, Ryan Strome and a 2017 first round draft pick to the Avalanche in exchange for Matt Duchene"

- oconstyle85


The Avs turned down Motte, McNeill, Pokka, Gustafsson and our #2 for that?
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:26 PM ET
Do we really need another 5'8" player in Tyler Johnson though?
- hpk90


3 inches and 10 pounds for duchene? I think the speed of that 3rd line would be absolutely lethal
hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:27 PM ET
He also posted this 23 mins ago...
"BREAKING: #Isles have traded Travis Hamonic, Ryan Strome and a 2017 first round draft pick to the Avalanche in exchange for Matt Duchene"

- oconstyle85


If true, that is a heck of a hockey trade. Looks like everyone wins in that one.
hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:28 PM ET
3 inches and 10 pounds for duchene? I think the speed of that 3rd line would be absolutely lethal
- the_dough_boy


That is true. Just concerned he would get crushed against some of those really big guys.
oconstyle85
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.20.2014

Feb 27 @ 8:28 PM ET
The Avs turned down Motte, McNeill, Pokka, Gustafsson and our #2 for that?
- BMWChiFan



I think it's fake, no one else is reporting that
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 27 @ 8:31 PM ET
Does anyone know if the Hawks medical staff is aware of the potential problem with mumps?

This whole situation seems ridiculous considering there's a vaccine!

From the CDC...

"Mumps can be prevented with MMR vaccine. This protects against three diseases: measles, mumps, and rubella. CDC recommends children get two doses of MMR vaccine, starting with the first dose at 12 through 15 months of age, and the second dose at 4 through 6 years of age. Teens and adults also should also be up to date on their MMR vaccination."

- ArlingtonRob


I was there back about 10 years ago when after one practice the players all got flu shots...That's something I think every team does regularly-No clue about mumps measles, chicken pox etc...
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:34 PM ET
You know , some teams just know how to (frank) it all up. The Sens are on a decent run then this . WTF ? LOL


John Shannon‏Verified account @JSportsnet 23m23 minutes ago
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The Burrows 2 year extension in Ottawa will be made official tomorrow.

- mrpaulish



2.5 million is seeming like the price, pretty rough for a 20 point 2nd line player, but they are in a tough spot for wingers so meh
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:36 PM ET
I was there back about 10 years ago when after one practice the players all got flu shots...That's something I think every team does regularly-No clue about mumps measles, chicken pox etc...
- Al


Al...it just seems so senseless, and avoidable. And the league just went thru this nonsense a couple years ago. Guess the NHL and individual organizations learned NOTHING.

the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:37 PM ET
That is true. Just concerned he would get crushed against some of those really big guys.
- hpk90


Highest scorer of the 14/15 playoffs where they lost to us. Beat the wings, canadiens and rags on the way. I don't think thats a huge issue.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 27 @ 8:37 PM ET
2.5 million is seeming like the price, pretty rough for a 20 point 2nd line player, but they are in a tough spot for wingers so meh
- the_dough_boy


The younger teams without playoff experience ..Toronto/Ottawa both traded for vets with a lot of playoff experience.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Feb 27 @ 8:40 PM ET
Al...it just seems so senseless, and avoidable. And the league just went thru this nonsense a couple years ago. Guess the NHL and individual organizations learned NOTHING.
- ArlingtonRob


I agree but the NHL doesn't usually mandate teams---They leave things up to the franchises but this is a time Bettman should have made it mandatory to vaccinate because it has an effect on the entire league.

Just out on Twitter...
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NHL trying to manage latest outbreak. League sent memos to all clubs and medical directors on Friday with procedural outlines.
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