Chara is noticeably worse than he was. Age catches up to a big guy like that. I wouldn't want him around next year.
- JRoenick97

Fair point, but we wouldnt be asking him to play top pair anymore. We would be asking him to come in and play as the #4, which is well within his capability still and adds a bomb shot to the point of the PP

For some reason I would like Gabriel Landeskog more than Duchene in Hawks. But that´s just me. And I would be willing to take a risk dealing DeBrincat in that deal. His stock might never be higher than it is now.

Based on what I hear last night/this morning, and who I heard it from (three separate good sources) I would say the Hawks are going maximum overdrive after Oduya. Dallas has to dance though and Bowman should NOT get hosed twice by Nill in a deal for Oduya.
- John Jaeckel

Hopefully the price is low, because Oduya is good but not outstanding and he is a UFA who would likely be gone again. He is a #4/#5 guy in Dallas and likely not higher on the blueline here. There may be cheaper options.

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Hearing Burrows to Ottawa with extension could come through as soon as today.

good, keep him away from Stan

Feds......nice job....impressive!!! I sell premium so I use ICs in the IRA and short strangles in the NQ account. Do you trade yourself?
- ILGolfer

Iron Condors, eh? Like the concept, but lose track of time of when to get out.

Single-ended works for me when the RSI's are favorable. Takes the emotion out. Glad someone uses the ICs well.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the infatuation of bringing Oduya back.

He's 35, is just coming back from an injury that forced him to miss a lot of time, and doesn't have the workload that he had in Chicago (less ice time). Not to mention he's at like a $3.5 mil dollar clip. You know Dallas will want even more from a Chicago for them to eat salary.

I'm all for adding a depth d-man, but the Oduya ship should have sailed.

Hopefully the price is low, because Oduya is good but not outstanding and he is a UFA who would likely be gone again. He is a #4/#5 guy in Dallas and likely not higher on the blueline here. There may be cheaper options.
- breadbag

Not so sure. His deal in big-D isn't a whole lot more than his 3-yr deal here, AAV. He's in his mid-30's now. I would be much happier with the '13 and '15 cup-winning top-4 defence in tact.

Boyle to TOR for Froese and 2nd round pick

yikes, a 2nd for a 4th line center

Boyle to TOR for Froese and 2nd round pick

yikes, a 2nd for a 4th line center
- hawkeytalkman

Deadline prices, man.

JJ,

I don't need to see a blockbuster deal or "big" name guy for the Hawks.

However, with Minn (playoff opponent) getting a little tougher and more skilled, I'd like to see Bowman add someone.

Again, it doesn't need to be a Duchene or anyone like that, but someone that can compliment/bring something to the table within the Hawks system--let's face it, we can daydream about all these stars coming to Chicago, but the truth is, sometimes it just doesn't work--Ladd being an example from last year.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the infatuation of bringing Oduya back.

He's 35, is just coming back from an injury that forced him to miss a lot of time, and doesn't have the workload that he had in Chicago (less ice time). Not to mention he's at like a $3.5 mil dollar clip. You know Dallas will want even more from a Chicago for them to eat salary.

I'm all for adding a depth d-man, but the Oduya ship should have sailed.
- TommyHawk

Oduya is 2 years older than when he teamed with Hammer in 2015 to form an outstanding d-pairing - true. But, Oduya is a workout freak and if he is over his injury, which he supposedly is based on playing 18+ mins in the last Dallas game, then I wouldn't be concerned in the least with him being 35. He knows Q's system and he and Hammer play together very well.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the infatuation of bringing Oduya back.

He's 35, is just coming back from an injury that forced him to miss a lot of time, and doesn't have the workload that he had in Chicago (less ice time). Not to mention he's at like a $3.5 mil dollar clip. You know Dallas will want even more from a Chicago for them to eat salary.

I'm all for adding a depth d-man, but the Oduya ship should have sailed.
- TommyHawk

100% with you.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the infatuation of bringing Oduya back.

He's 35, is just coming back from an injury that forced him to miss a lot of time, and doesn't have the workload that he had in Chicago (less ice time). Not to mention he's at like a $3.5 mil dollar clip. You know Dallas will want even more from a Chicago for them to eat salary.

I'm all for adding a depth d-man, but the Oduya ship should have sailed.
- TommyHawk

The infatuation is based on improving what the eye test tells you is a somewhat shaky defensive corp. Keith, Hjarlmarsson (if healthy) and Seabrook are fine, no matter how you mix them. Campbell has lost more than a step on top of what were already poor defensive fundamentals. TVR is fine as a 6/7, but is a bit of a nightmare if asked to play against a higher QoC. I think Kempney is OK, and is improving game by game, but is he a 4d yet, and can he play as a consistent 4d in the playoffs. Rosival should never see the ice, it's a dumpster fire in the D-zone whenever he is on it, regardless of which partner they send him out with. So, taking that all into account, Oduya (if healthy), gives you a player familiar with the system that can step in and take 4d minutes and not necessarily hurt you. In addition, it slides Kempney, Campbell, TVR down to where they should be and where they can exploit matchups.

In my mind, here's the real question for Stan:

Does he think the current crop up front (in whatever lines) can get 2 to 3 goals per night? If so, then the logical moves are to get a 4-5 and 5-6 D man. 33 and 50 have already shown they can get goalie wins (and wet the bed all in the same series) so the real question is does the organization believe they can get multiple 3-2 or 2-1 wins in a series with 2, 7, 6, 57, 51, and 4 at less than 100%?

When I look at the situation from that perspective, I would say someone like a Duchene would be nice but a 4-5 defenseman is a must. Everyone has bad games but what I saw from 57 and 51 last night (forget Rossy) makes me think that the bigger need for an opening round series against St. Louis or Nashville and then possibly round 2 against Minnesota is someone to get the puck out of the D zone.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the infatuation of bringing Oduya back.

He's 35, is just coming back from an injury that forced him to miss a lot of time, and doesn't have the workload that he had in Chicago (less ice time). Not to mention he's at like a $3.5 mil dollar clip. You know Dallas will want even more from a Chicago for them to eat salary.

I'm all for adding a depth d-man, but the Oduya ship should have sailed.
- TommyHawk

I'm with you. I think they should only bring him back if the price is low. Oduya is a bit over-hyped a bit, but wouldn't be a bad addition for the right price.

Boyle to TOR for Froese and 2nd round pick

yikes, a 2nd for a 4th line center
- hawkeytalkman

froese is a 25 year old AHL player, I don't think that's a ton. I think its a good deal for TOR more so then Tampa.

The infatuation is based on improving what the eye test tells you is a somewhat shaky defensive corp. Keith, Hjarlmarsson (if healthy) and Seabrook are fine, no matter how you mix them. Campbell has lost more than a step on top of what were already poor defensive fundamentals. TVR is fine as a 6/7, but is a bit of a nightmare if asked to play against a higher QoC. I think Kempney is OK, and is improving game by game, but is he a 4d yet, and can he play as a consistent 4d in the playoffs. Rosival should never see the ice, it's a dumpster fire in the D-zone whenever he is on it, regardless of which partner they send him out with. So, taking that all into account, Oduya (if healthy), gives you a player familiar with the system that can step in and take 4d minutes and not necessarily hurt you. In addition, it slides Kempney, Campbell, TVR down to where they should be and where they can exploit matchups.
- TheTrob

Hainsey was the dude to get, in my opinion.

Hawks will most likely overpay the Stars (again) for Johnny O.

Oduya is 2 years older than when he teamed with Hammer in 2015 to form an outstanding d-pairing - true. But, Oduya is a workout freak and if he is over his injury, which he supposedly is based on playing 18+ mins in the last Dallas game, then I wouldn't be concerned in the least with him being 35. He knows Q's system and he and Hammer play together very well.
- EbonyRaptor

2, 4, 7, 27..... Do it Stan!

That also makes the 3rd pairing MUCH better than most teams.

Like Joe Maddon of the World Champion Chicago CUBS likes to say, "Do Simple Better".

7-2 and Johnny and hammer as top 2 pairs? Yes.
- JRoenick97

If they chump up big for Oduya, I would not count on a 100% Hammer. Cause, effect.

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Oduya isn't a sexy name but he's a plug and play kinda guy. He's got chemistry with the team, especially Hammer who he'd likely play with if both are healthy, and know's the system already. Allows for you to play Keith and Seabrook together again and go with Kempny, Soup, and TVR as your 3rd D-man pair with Rosi going to the press box in case of an emergency during the Playoffs. Wouldn't/shouldn't cost too much from Dallas since he's had an injured/down year. Expiring contract. Lots of things to like about that kinda move from the Hawks perspective.

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100% with you.
- Hank3Henshaw

Kinda there, myself. But, I have heard their interest in Oduya right now is as a plug and play solution for a possible period of time without Hjalmarsson or if he goes down again. That's what I heard.

If they chump up big for Oduya, I would not count on a 100% Hammer. Cause, effect.
- John Jaeckel

That's the real worry for me right now JJ. Without a healthy #4......we are in deep sh*t. But then again, if that's the current case, LTIR him and get some bigger (money wise) help. But that doesn't seem to be happening.

froese is a 25 year old AHL player, I don't think that's a ton. I think its a good deal for TOR more so then Tampa.
- kmw4631

I don't either, tends to make me think maybe we are done for this trade deadline.