Or Parenteau?
- BluesDroogie

I think TT could develop into the stud everyone thought he was going to

might as well take a swing at it

I think TT could develop into the stud everyone thought he was going to

might as well take a swing at it
- sycsam

I would if the asking price wasn't much. Maybe Yakupov. Well to be honest we have 3-4 we could pick from. Sobotka, Lehtera, Yakupov, Jaskin, Rattie, maybe 1-2 more i have forgot.

I would

Paajarvi seems to be picking up his game. Is this a player we may be able to rely on next season to produce? He is finding ways to the net and using his speed and strength to create chances.

I would if the asking price wasn't much. Maybe Yakupov. Well to be honest we have 3-4 we could pick from. Sobotka, Lehtera, Yakupov, Jaskin, Rattie, maybe 1-2 more i have forgot.

I would
- BluesDroogie

It would likely take a 2nd round pick plus one of those guys not named Rattie they already had him

Yakupov and a 2nd for TT something like htat

not sure what Carolina needs but I read they want picks to try and get duchense

Paajarvi seems to be picking up his game. Is this a player we may be able to rely on next season to produce? He is finding ways to the net and using his speed and strength to create chances.
- BluesDroogie

He sure is playing with confidence

Paajarvi seems to be picking up his game. Is this a player we may be able to rely on next season to produce? He is finding ways to the net and using his speed and strength to create chances.
- BluesDroogie

No.


Same with Jaskin.

Same with Yakupov.


These guys are all the same guy. They can look good for a game or two and then morph into the background.

No.


Same with Jaskin.

Same with Yakupov.


These guys are all the same guy. They can look good for a game or two and then morph into the background.
- bcallaway

I disagree. First they are all still young and second each one has had their confidence messed with.

If any of them received the same treatment given to a Schwartz their game rounds out. Hell Schwartz is another example of a player not producing in line with their ability and pay. So open up to the bigger picture--MPS has shown marked improvement. That doesn't mean he is Hull. But a useful player with scoring ability.

Last two games the Blues had the bounces go the other way against two good teams. So I am not so concerned.

I disagree. First they are all still young and second each one has had their confidence messed with.

If any of them received the same treatment given to a Schwartz their game rounds out. Hell Schwartz is another example of a player not producing in line with their ability and pay. So open up to the bigger picture--MPS has shown marked improvement. That doesn't mean he is Hull. But a useful player with scoring ability.

Last two games the Blues had the bounces go the other way against two good teams. So I am not so concerned.
- BluemanGuruu

I'd like to see how they develop with a year under yeo instead of hitch, minus jaskin he's had enough chances and failed

I disagree. First they are all still young and second each one has had their confidence messed with.

If any of them received the same treatment given to a Schwartz their game rounds out. Hell Schwartz is another example of a player not producing in line with their ability and pay. So open up to the bigger picture--MPS has shown marked improvement. That doesn't mean he is Hull. But a useful player with scoring ability.

Last two games the Blues had the bounces go the other way against two good teams. So I am not so concerned.
- BluemanGuruu

I knew it. I ALMOST typed - "Of course Guru's gonna tell me i'm fulla crap."


If the Blues wanna keep on trying to develop these guys i understand. They all have raw talent. As long as they don't put stock in counting on them for consistent scoring, until they actually do so on a consistent basis.

How would you guys feel if DA somehow acquired Teravainen from the Canes?
- sycsam

Pass.

Pass.
- Jason Millen

due to the price we would have to pay or you not like the player?

due to the price we would have to pay or you not like the player?
- sycsam

Price wouldn't be worth the player imho. I see him like the Yakupov gamble in a way.

Price wouldn't be worth the player imho. I see him like the Yakupov gamble in a way.
- Jason Millen

Does Vegas automatically get top pick this year or will they be in the lottery somehow?

Does Vegas automatically get top pick this year or will they be in the lottery somehow?
- sycsam

Lottery, have the same odds as the 3rd worst record i believe

Lottery, have the same odds as the 3rd worst record i believe
- .....

Yes, this is correct. They will be slotted into the 3rd spot and then will be in the lottery like everyone else.

Yes, this is correct. They will be slotted into the 3rd spot and then will be in the lottery like everyone else.
- carcus

thanks for the answer both of you

Lottery, have the same odds as the 3rd worst record i believe
- .....

Yes, this is correct. They will be slotted into the 3rd spot and then will be in the lottery like everyone else.
- carcus

News to me, I never looked into it, I just assumed they would get the 31st pick.

News to me, I never looked into it, I just assumed they would get the 31st pick.
- Blue Clam

https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592

2017 NHL Draft Lottery

The Las Vegas franchise will be given the same odds in the 2017 NHL Draft Lottery as the team finishing with the third-fewest points during the 2016-17 regular season.

The Las Vegas franchise's First Round selection in the 2017 NHL Draft will be determined in accordance with the 2017 NHL Draft Lottery and, as a result, the Las Vegas franchise will be guaranteed no lower than the sixth overall selection.

The Las Vegas franchise then will select third in each subsequent round of the 2017 NHL Draft (subject to trades and other potential player transactions).

Man, Stevie Y made some awesome moves today.

Essentially got rid of Filppula for some salary retained and a conditional 7th.

Opens up a spot on the expansion protected list, as well as shedding salary for future years to sign their RFAs.

Man, Stevie Y made some awesome moves today.

Essentially got rid of Filppula for some salary retained and a conditional 7th.

Opens up a spot on the expansion protected list, as well as shedding salary for future years to sign their RFAs.


- carcus

Yeah I thought he over committed on Filpulla when he first signed him as a free agent but by bailing out early for little to no cost, doesn't look too bad now.

Stevie still has his work cut out for him though. Gonna lose another player at the X draft and he still has to address his D. Very similar situation as the Blues, only with us being weak at C instead of on D.

I knew it. I ALMOST typed - "Of course Guru's gonna tell me i'm fulla crap."


If the Blues wanna keep on trying to develop these guys i understand. They all have raw talent. As long as they don't put stock in counting on them for consistent scoring, until they actually do so on a consistent basis.
- bcallaway

That's all I am saying...give them enough rope to either hang themselves or prove their value.

I think you can see the change with MPS. I get the digs at Jaskin. But if you have talent and can't produce that is where you save us money on the fourth line as other teams have proven.

I like Upshall, but this year he has shown he maybe is not really good enough for fourthnoine duty. The same especially goes for Broadziak, whose cost on the fourth line and what he brings are too different.

That's all I am saying...give them enough rope to either hang themselves or prove their value.

I think you can see the change with MPS. I get the digs at Jaskin. But if you have talent and can't produce that is where you save us money on the fourth line as other teams have proven.

I like Upshall, but this year he has shown he maybe is not really good enough for fourthnoine duty. The same especially goes for Broadziak, whose cost on the fourth line and what he brings are too different.
- BluemanGuruu

Upshall and Brodziak are both under a mill a piece. What are you expecting from them. They are not going to score a bunch of goals but they rarely give up goals and i think were mainly brought back for their pk abilities. I am not understanding your arguments about their cost? They are paid just above league minimum.

Yes, this is correct. They will be slotted into the 3rd spot and then will be in the lottery like everyone else.
- carcus

Actually I thought they could not pick higher than number 2. I guess it changed.

Upshall and Brodziak are both under a mill a piece. What are you expecting from them. They are not going to score a bunch of goals but they rarely give up goals and i think were mainly brought back for their pk abilities. I am not understanding your arguments about their cost? They are paid just above league minimum.
- BluesDroogie

Well you have to look at ice time relative to their play. Upshall is paid low Broadziak not so much with an argument the can move up in the line up if necessary which is untrue. That cost relative to one of their spots going to developing a player who does not hurt you as much CF like for instance the Rangers fourth line means their gross impact is negative. Broadziak hits 950k which is not minimum.

They do not honestly stop goals. Against slower and weaker teams they can help but agains many others they often cause shifts in momentum. On the road, especially against the Awks and others, especially when Hitch was the coach the other coach would quickly put their top line out there against them. Many glorious opportunities against. So, really, I fail to see the defense of their cost relative to what they give as well as considering the cost of say playing Megan, Jaskin or others in those spots. I just don't see it. Broadziak has more goals this year but five on five has his ice time be over all favorable or unfavorable for the team?

What could have been...

https://www.nhl.com/bluej...mo-kekalainen/c-287211486