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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Feb 26 @ 10:12 PM ET
Bishop to LA and Hanzal to Minn.

If you get a chance, check out Shane Doan's interview after the game. He doesn't seem none too happy with the new GM.

Quick, name the Coyotes #1 center.
Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

Feb 26 @ 11:07 PM ET
Bishop to LA and Hanzal to Minn.

If you get a chance, check out Shane Doan's interview after the game. He doesn't seem none too happy with the new GM.

Quick, name the Coyotes #1 center.

- Jason Millen

My first guess was "It can't be Domi, can it?"

I just looked at the roster, I'm still unsure.
Firebrand
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 05.24.2014

Feb 27 @ 3:26 AM ET
You seem very informed.
- Blue Clam


Always failed? Allen and Elliott traded injuries last season, and Elliott was healthiest as the season wore down. Moose has had a tough season, but Allen has rebounded nicely after a tough stretch...Blues made right move to deal Moose considering the expansion draft and player movement provisions. Strong rumor is Elliott wanted to move along...at least they avoided the Penguins goalie situation by dealing one of them...they have enough to think about with Shattenkirk...

















































































































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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:37 AM ET
I thought the Blues played well for coming off the break.

Funny how much of a band wagon fanbase Chicago has. They start getting uppity when they think their team is good and when they think it is bad the world is ending.

This is a close league and fans often over look that. The Blues fell out of the first tier during a reload and that is ok. They are not terrible and not so far off as some think. To say letting Backes walk was a front office failure is not only short sighted hindisght, but just ignorance. Too much money and term in the cap world.

Allen is turning a corner but just being better than Elliott does not say a lot in my book as of now. He has the raw ability to be great, but I am not sure if he has it between the ears.

With what is going on in the standings, I think you have to move Shatty now. I do not believe it is a white flag. I do not think he is that much of a defensive liability either. The Blues have his spot filled right now. If the Blues would have won two more of the three they lost, you keep him unless you are blown away.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Feb 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
I thought the Blues played well for coming off the break.

Funny how much of a band wagon fanbase Chicago has. They start getting uppity when they think their team is good and when they think it is bad the world is ending.

This is a close league and fans often over look that. The Blues fell out of the first tier during a reload and that is ok. They are not terrible and not so far off as some think. To say letting Backes walk was a front office failure is not only short sighted hindisght, but just ignorance. Too much money and term in the cap world.

Allen is turning a corner but just being better than Elliott does not say a lot in my book as of now. He has the raw ability to be great, but I am not sure if he has it between the ears.

With what is going on in the standings, I think you have to move Shatty now. I do not believe it is a white flag. I do not think he is that much of a defensive liability either. The Blues have his spot filled right now. If the Blues would have won two more of the three they lost, you keep him unless you are blown away.

- BluemanGuruu


You have to move someone with salary before the Trade deadline and he is the obvious guy to go

If he is a rental than hes a rental and I would likely ask for a pick in 2018 rather than 2017 as the draft class is rumored to be weak after the first few picks

2018 first rounder
High End Prospect
Warm NHL body for this year
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Feb 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
It's not a white flag if the player reportedly wants to leave. NY wants Shatty, Shatty wants to play there. The New York Times reported yesterday that the Rangers listening to other teams inquire about Miller.

Miller for Shatty with a contract extension upon arrival. Done.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Feb 27 @ 4:32 PM ET
It's not a white flag if the player reportedly wants to leave. NY wants Shatty, Shatty wants to play there. The New York Times reported yesterday that the Rangers listening to other teams inquire about Miller.

Miller for Shatty with a contract extension upon arrival. Done.

- RobShouts


better be more than Miller for a signed Shatty
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Feb 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
better be more than Miller for a signed Shatty
- sycsam


23-year-old forward with nearly 50 points this season at $2.5 mil in exchange a defensively deficient defenseman who's probably going ask for $6 mil in the off season? I know the loss of Shatty means more lost leadership, but tat's probably the best we're going to get for him. Maybe they'd throw in a 2nd or a mid-high prospect?
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Feb 27 @ 4:53 PM ET
23-year-old forward with nearly 50 points this season at $2.5 mil in exchange a defensively deficient defenseman who's probably going ask for $6 mil in the off season? I know the loss of Shatty means more lost leadership, but tat's probably the best we're going to get for him. Maybe they'd throw in a 2nd or a mid-high prospect?
- RobShouts


we shall see but shatty has more value signed IMO
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:50 PM ET
Bishop to LA and Hanzal to Minn.

If you get a chance, check out Shane Doan's interview after the game. He doesn't seem none too happy with the new GM.

Quick, name the Coyotes #1 center.

- Jason Millen


Domi?
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
Domi?
- eggsegan


Ok, that wasn't quick at all...
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St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 06.23.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:43 PM ET
Looks like shats is heading to the caps
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
I guess the Caps will win the cup this year? Seems about right. They have enough former Blues now. I heard a 1st this year and conditional 2nd. And a prospect named Sanford. Could be wrong
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St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 06.23.2011

Feb 27 @ 10:07 PM ET
I guess the Caps will win the cup this year? Seems about right. They have enough former Blues now. I heard a 1st this year and conditional 2nd. And a prospect named Sanford. Could be wrong
- BluesDroogie


Thats correct from the reports i heard, may be some more minor details, blues retaining some salary
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 10:11 PM ET
Thats correct from the reports i heard, may be some more minor details, blues retaining some salary
- .....
so the blues get what the 25th pick or so then a conditional pick the following draft and we retain salary and get some prospect that won't make it to the NHL. Great job army.
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St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 06.23.2011

Feb 27 @ 10:13 PM ET
so the blues get what the 25th pick or so then a conditional pick the following draft and we retain salary and get some prospect that won't make it to the NHL. Great job army.
- BluesDroogie


Technically hes already played 26 nhl games, but not a great return, it is something though
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Feb 27 @ 10:13 PM ET
so the blues get what the 25th pick or so then a conditional pick the following draft and we retain salary and get some prospect that won't make it to the NHL. Great job army.
- BluesDroogie

Ya it's hard to say what was out there?but they got somthing I guess
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 10:15 PM ET
Technically hes already played 26 nhl games, but not a great return, it is something though
- .....

Okay he made it. But he won't stick with us either. It's something but will probably just be a 1st round pick when all is said and done and us retaining salary
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 27 @ 11:06 PM ET
I got no problem with this deal. Letting him go allows the team to focus on the team going forward. They'll make the playoffs. They'll lose in the first round and we'll be looking at the draft and what expansion will bring.

Sanford is still an unknown quantity. He could replace Broadziak down the road or challenge Berglund for the 3c role. Gotta think Armstrong would like to see Berglund continue to mature into a 2c role, though that might be a little far fetched...

Tags Thompson & Zach Sanford. Giant centers. Hopefully, they're better than Brian Boyle.
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St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 06.23.2011

Feb 27 @ 11:21 PM ET
I got no problem with this deal. Letting him go allows the team to focus on the team going forward. They'll make the playoffs. They'll lose in the first round and we'll be looking at the draft and what expansion will bring.

Sanford is still an unknown quantity. He could replace Broadziak down the road or challenge Berglund for the 3c role. Gotta think Armstrong would like to see Berglund continue to mature into a 2c role, though that might be a little far fetched...

Tags Thompson & Zach Sanford. Giant centers. Hopefully, they're better than Brian Boyle.

- eggsegan


Also traded back copley for brad malone
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 11:21 PM ET
Now its official

1st round pick
Zach Sanford
Brad Malone

Shattenkirk
Copley
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St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 06.23.2011

Feb 27 @ 11:23 PM ET
Now its official

1st round pick
Zach Sanford
Brad Malone

Shattenkirk
Copley

- BluesDroogie


Conditional 2019 2nd round pick
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 27 @ 11:24 PM ET
2019 2nd round pick
- .....

they failed to mention that on nhltonight

Wow it seems that somehow it just made it a little worse even. Brad malone will never be an hl player for our team. Then we sent Copley back to them?

WTF!!!
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 27 @ 11:32 PM ET
they failed to mention that on nhltonight

Wow it seems that somehow it just made it a little worse even. Brad malone will never be an hl player for our team. Then we sent Copley back to them?

WTF!!!

- BluesDroogie


Ah... Shattenkirk tied the hands of Armstrong when he refused negotiating a new contract.

Blues need bodies in the AHL. Binnington must've been the preferred of the two.

Hope the Blues scouts know what they're doing...
Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

Feb 27 @ 11:33 PM ET
they failed to mention that on nhltonight

Wow it seems that somehow it just made it a little worse even. Brad malone will never be an hl player for our team. Then we sent Copley back to them?

WTF!!!

- BluesDroogie

It's an absolute gamble whether or not either of those picks plays in the NHL. It's hard to say whether or not we should have just kept him. Picks between 25-30 have about a 15% chance to become a top-6 forward, top-4 defenseman, or better.

So weigh that against the negatives of not having him for the rest of the year.
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