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rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Feb 26 @ 5:07 PM ET
Does anyone remember the last time the Sabres had a clean-cut breakaway in a game? Feels like it has been a while.
- Pierceme69






Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 26 @ 5:10 PM ET




- rmiethaner


Hah, he finessed ward so hard
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Feb 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
Does anyone remember the last time the Sabres had a clean-cut breakaway in a game? Feels like it has been a while.
- Pierceme69


Afinogenov?

Edit: Just looked above me : P

Too bad this has only happened twice in 2 years.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
Hah, he finessed ward so hard
- Sabresfan-365

Ward couldn't believe what just happened on that play...

Staring into the crowd shaking his head.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 26 @ 5:33 PM ET
Ward couldn't believe what just happened on that play...

Staring into the crowd shaking his head.

- jochfr



absolute curveball from jack, ward was lost
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
Hanzal on the move according to Twitter
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Feb 26 @ 5:43 PM ET
Hanzal on the move according to Twitter
- sbroads24


That Hanzel...he's so hot right now.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:51 PM ET
Realistically I think Kulikov will get one. And if Gionta waives his NMC, I could see (hoping/praying) a package of Franson and Gionta get a second.

I wouldn't even hate moving Gionta with the understanding he is a 1 year deal waiting for him in the offseason.

- Mentalorgasm5




Who has 8mil in Cap space to take both Franson AND Gionta in a package?
That's not very realistic imo

Gionta might get us one on his own, he's played well
A 3rd is certainly possible,
maybe turns into a 2nd if certain conditions are met

Franson can probably get a 3rd as well

Kulikov will definitely get a 2nd, and maybe another piece as well
I've heard him referred to as the #2 defenseman after Shattenkirk



riptheguard
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.08.2005

Feb 26 @ 5:53 PM ET
I remember Legwand having quite a few breakaways. And on some, he didn't even get caught
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:54 PM ET
Who has 8mil in Cap space to take both Franson AND Gionta in a package?
That's not very realistic imo

Gionta might get us one on his own, he's played well
A 3rd is certainly possible,
maybe turns into a 2nd if certain conditions are met

Franson can probably get a 3rd as well

Kulikov will definitely get a 2nd, and maybe another piece as well
I've heard him referred to as the #2 defenseman after Shattenkirk

- jdfitz77

Trading players this far into the season changes their cap hit drastically. And we can retain 50% of their salary.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Feb 26 @ 5:57 PM ET
I remember Legwand having quite a few breakaways. And on some, he didn't even get caught
- riptheguard


I think he fell on all the others
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 5:59 PM ET
Trading players this far into the season changes their cap hit drastically. And we can retain 50% of their salary.
- Mentalorgasm5



The change in their Cap hit is still relative
That's a lot for a team to take on,
And almost all Playoff teams are close to the Cap

When's the last time u remember a package of 2 players get traded at the deadline to a playoff team?

I'd say it's probably pretty rare that teams trade for more than one guy unless they ship salary out somehow
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:04 PM ET
The change in their Cap hit is still relative
That's a lot for a team to take on,
And almost all Playoff teams are close to the Cap

When's the last time u remember a package of 2 players get traded at the deadline to a playoff team?

I'd say it's probably pretty rare that teams trade for more than one guy unless they ship salary out somehow

- jdfitz77

No, it makes a big difference trading for a player's salary 68-75 percent of the way into the season, especially when the sabres would be able to retain 50% of both their cap.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:06 PM ET
They need to make the deadline more of an event. Or on a Friday

Too many guys get moved days before. Do a freeze beforehand
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:06 PM ET
The change in their Cap hit is still relative
That's a lot for a team to take on,
And almost all Playoff teams are close to the Cap

When's the last time u remember a package of 2 players get traded at the deadline to a playoff team?

I'd say it's probably pretty rare that teams trade for more than one guy unless they ship salary out somehow

- jdfitz77




The Sabres do that a bit? Miller and Ott, Moulson and McCormick(?).

Edit: ok, twice recently not "a bit"
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:08 PM ET
No, it makes a big difference trading for a player's salary 68-75 percent of the way into the season, especially when the sabres would be able to retain 50% of both their cap.
- Mentalorgasm5



Yeah, I get what you're saying

It's still unrealistic, even if we retain salary

Name some times that 2 players who make about 8mil were packaged at the deadline...
I'd bet if it actually did happen,
That team had to move out salary somehow
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 26 @ 6:12 PM ET
That Hanzel...he's so hot right now.
- feetontheair22


Dillon Francis?

Millennial house heads will get this....
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:14 PM ET
The Sabres do that a bit? Miller and Ott, Moulson and McCormik(?).
- Lilroot9



Miller & Ott... had to take back Halak & Stewart
-I don't know the exact salaries, but my point still stands. StL could not have taken those 2 & just sent us draft picks like Mental suggests by packaging Gionta & Franson

In the Moulson + McCormick deal, we had to take back Torrey Mitchell & his salary to make it work. I think he made a little more than McCormick at the time, so u can basically just cancel those 2 out of the deal...
Basically, we just traded Moulson for two 2nds
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Feb 26 @ 6:18 PM ET
Dillon Francis?

Millennial house heads will get this....

- jochfr


I was at Ultra Miami when DJ Snake put Dillon Francis' personal phone number up on the big screen...great (frank)in set

But I was not referencing Dillon Francis...just Zoolander
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:19 PM ET
Yeah, I get what you're saying

It's still unrealistic, even if we retain salary

Name some times that 2 players who make about 8mil were packaged at the deadline...
I'd bet if it actually did happen,
That team had to move out salary somehow

- jdfitz77

Without looking it up, I can think of players that were making 7-8 by themselves being moved on the deadline. Ilya Kovalchuk (no significant salary went to Atlanta) Dion Phaneuf twice. Salary with no term is easy to move at the deadline.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:24 PM ET
(frank) thats a trade right there


Edit: i got played
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 26 @ 6:25 PM ET
Bishop to the Kings.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:26 PM ET
cernak budaj and pick for bishop to la
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:29 PM ET
Without looking it up, I can think of players that were making 7-8 by themselves being moved on the deadline. Ilya Kovalchuk (no significant salary went to Atlanta) Dion Phaneuf twice. Salary with no term is easy to move at the deadline.
- Mentalorgasm5



BOTH times Phaneuf was traded there was significant salary that went the other way....

Oduya & his 3.5mil salary was traded out of Nj to Atlanta in the Kovalchuck deal

I'm not trying to be a d!ck here
But what u suggest just doesn't happen
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Feb 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
cernak budaj and pick for bishop to la
- Sabresfan-365

Damn.

Also Lehner out with upper body injury
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