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mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
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Feb 26 @ 6:44 PM ET
Why would the Kings Trade for Bishop when quick is back?
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Easy because the Kings need someone to play as well as Budaj did while Quick was out
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 6:44 PM ET
pretty crappy way to treat budaj IMO

2.12 GAA and shown the door

- homiedclown


7 shutouts, to boot. It's a total Richard move. Bishop's season has been a turd.
mhp
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Feb 26 @ 6:46 PM ET
they talked today

thats all I got

- homiedclown


Really? I figured Kane has interest but doubtful Murray moves him on Tuesday. I just think it will be quiet and we'll see Franson and Kulikov moved, maybe Gio. That's about it.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
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Feb 26 @ 6:46 PM ET
they talked today

thats all I got

- homiedclown



maybe re visited in the off season but if i had to guess id say it doesnt get further than just talk
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Feb 26 @ 6:47 PM ET
Easy because the Kings need someone to play as well as Budaj did while Quick was out
- mattmoulson


But budaji was so cheap idk it's just strange to me with his cap hit
BeadyEyedDouche
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Feb 26 @ 6:49 PM ET
Really? I figured Kane has interest but doubtful Murray moves him on Tuesday. I just think it will be quiet and TIM MURRAY WILL SIT ON HIS HANDS TOO MUCH AND MAKE A CRAP TRADE OR TWO.
- mhp


This sounds more realistic.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 6:49 PM ET
Really? I figured Kane has interest but doubtful Murray moves him on Tuesday. I just think it will be quiet and we'll see Franson and Kulikov moved, maybe Gio. That's about it.
- mhp



most of the groundwork for the ROR deal happened around this time and then was finalized at the draft. Its possible he's looking to do something similar.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 6:50 PM ET
most of the groundwork for the ROR deal happened around this time and then was finalized at the draft. Its possible he's looking to do something similar.
- Sabresfan-365

Kings have recently traded for a LW'er with only 1 year left on his deal
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:50 PM ET
I don't feel like going through all the trades. Vanek was traded from Islanders to Montreal for a pick and Prince. Vanek had over a 7 million cap hit. Moving salary is easy when no term is left. Especially if a team such as the sabres can retain 50% of it.
- Mentalorgasm5




If it were "easy" you'd have been able to list LOTS of times it happened
Obviously, Montreal had the Cap room to take on Vanek
That's the EXCEPTION, not the RULE

What teams can take on that Cap hit from Franson & Gionta combined?
Even if we retain some?
And what team might want BOTH those guys?

I don't think it's as EASY as you're thinking

Also...
I'm willing to bet that not only will there be no Franson + Gionta package, I'd bet that NO team takes on a package of 2 players making 7.5mil+ without getting rid of salary
mhp
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Feb 26 @ 6:51 PM ET
most of the groundwork for the ROR deal happened around this time and then was finalized at the draft. Its possible he's looking to do something similar.
- Sabresfan-365


spot on 365, totally agree. With the looming expansion draft, that's the best time for the Sabres to make a move.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 6:53 PM ET
Kings have recently traded for a LW'er with only 1 year left on his deal
- sbroads24



?

i either missed this trade or missed the joke lol
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:54 PM ET
If it were "easy" you'd have been able to list LOTS of times it happened
Obviously, Montreal had the Cap room to take on Vanek
That's the EXCEPTION, not the RULE

What teams can take on that Cap hit from Franson & Gionta combined?
Even if we retain some?
And what team might want BOTH those guys?

I don't think it's as EASY as you're thinking

Also...
I'm willing to bet that not only will there be no Franson + Gionta package, I'd bet that NO team takes on a package of 2 players making 7.5mil+ without getting rid of salary

- jdfitz77

No I have better things to do than to scroll through trades. Ingila was traded as a rental, Hossa was (multiple times) if I give it more than 30 seconds I am sure I am come up with more. If the player(s) is/are on expiring deals, the hit is not that big of a deal at the deadline. Especially now that teams can retain salary.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 6:55 PM ET
?

i either missed this trade or missed the joke lol

- Sabresfan-365

Lucic bro. Stay woke
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 6:57 PM ET
7 shutouts, to boot. It's a total Richard move. Bishop's season has been a turd.
- BeadyEyedDouche



Yeah, that's a weird trade for LA...
unless they don't think Quick can be the #1 bc of his injury?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:58 PM ET
No I have better things to do than to scroll through trades. Ingila was traded as a rental, Hossa was (multiple times) if I give it more than 30 seconds I am sure I am come up with more. If the player(s) is/are on expiring deals, the hit is not that big of a deal at the deadline. Especially now that teams can retain salary.
- Mentalorgasm5




Bottom line...
Gionta & Franson will NOT get packaged
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 6:58 PM ET
Lucic bro. Stay woke
- sbroads24



oh cmon that doesnt count that was a year ago
Sabresfan-365
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Feb 26 @ 7:01 PM ET
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No trade call yet, but MIN and ARI are working to finalize a trade involving Martin Hanzal.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 7:04 PM ET
But budaji was so cheap idk it's just strange to me with his cap hit
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Sorry man I was going for sarcasm but it makes absolutely no sense Budaj might literally be in the Vezina conversation and he makes pennies. Also again proves you can find goalies anywhere
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Feb 26 @ 7:05 PM ET


Let's go
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Feb 26 @ 7:07 PM ET
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No trade call yet, but MIN and ARI are working to finalize a trade involving Martin Hanzal.

- Sabresfan-365


There goes our traditional Minnesota Wild trade
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Feb 26 @ 7:09 PM ET
Sorry man I was going for sarcasm but it makes absolutely no sense Budaj might literally be in the Vezina conversation and he makes pennies. Also again proves you can find goalies anywhere
- mattmoulson


Oh I'm sorry I went Sheldon Cooper there lol

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:12 PM ET
Lucic bro. Stay woke
- sbroads24


I don't even own a bathrobe.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 26 @ 7:13 PM ET
Well, just like last year all the big names will be gone before the deadline
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:14 PM ET
ARIZ is receiving a first-rounder, a second-rounder and a conditional pick that can become a second. MIN is all-in

Assuming ARI trade of Hanzal to MIN gets finalized, I'm hearing lots of draft picks will be involved.

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Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 26 @ 7:14 PM ET
Bottom line...
Gionta & Franson will NOT get packaged

- jdfitz77

Bishop 6 million cap hit, Budaj 600k. It happens all the time. Odds are both Gionta and Franson wont be traded as a package are high (hence why I said i am hoping and praying for it). However to say it can't happen because of salary is a baseless argument.
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