No you don't build around a guy like Simmonds. Listen, I love the guy, he's the prototypical flyer and all that. But we know that the rest of the league loves him AND his contract too. He is a massive trade chip that could bring back a young piece that we CAN build around.

What if we can trade him to a team like Minnesota who has aging vets and they STILL can't beat Chicago the last couple times they played them. They may be desperate to get over the top.

Simmonds could get Joel Erickson Ek and a 1st....no doubt in my mind. You have to take a look at trades like this.
- Just5

Interesting bishop misses practice because of the flu. Legit or conspiracy theory, hmmm...... I'm all on board with 2 new goalie options next season. Filling internally or externally, this has been a brutal season of goaltending, no way to sugar coat it

What do you think you could get from the Sharks for Voracek?
- MJL

Timo Meier I'm hoping. Honestly I'm not blown away by their prospect pool but I could see Jake fitting in pretty well there for them to have strong interest in him.

Interesting bishop misses practice because of the flu. Legit or conspiracy theory, hmmm...... I'm all on board with 2 new goalie options next season. Filling internally or externally, this has been a brutal season of goaltending, no way to sugar coat it
- ravishingone

I just want a somewhat steady vet to play in front of Stolarz for a year or two. Bishop worries me a little because he always seems to miss some time which could put Stolarz in a rough spot. I'm really not wow'd by any of the UFA goalies to be out there though.

I just want a somewhat steady vet to play in front of Stolarz for a year or two. Bishop worries me a little because he always seems to miss some time which could put Stolarz in a rough spot. I'm really not wow'd by any of the UFA goalies to be out there though.
- hereticpride

My view is that the current GM is a former goalie, who I believe doesn't get the team in the playoffs next year is open to being replaced. Would it surprise me to see him invest a little more in that position, nope. Who? Don't know, but the slop between the pipes is unacceptable.

If you have above average goal tending, a team is more then likely going to make the playoffs, irregardless of offense. Granted, the last 2 months of this teams shooting % would put that to the test. He needs to get the goalie situation resolved first, IMO

nhl shows it's penguin bias once again with touching penalties called on plays against crosby and manning's hearing

nhl shows it's penguin bias once again with touching penalties called on plays against crosby and manning's hearing
- 2Real

The Manning hit is literally the exact definition of interference.
I mean it's not even close how much of an interference call it should have been.

I think the hold occurred before the Crosby play.

nhl shows it's penguin bias once again with touching penalties called on plays against crosby and manning's hearing
- 2Real

Lol that Manning hit was bad mang

My view is that the current GM is a former goalie, who I believe doesn't get the team in the playoffs next year is open to being replaced. Would it surprise me to see him invest a little more in that position, nope. Who? Don't know, but the slop between the pipes is unacceptable.

If you have above average goal tending, a team is more then likely going to make the playoffs, irregardless of offense. Granted, the last 2 months of this teams shooting % would put that to the test. He needs to get the goalie situation resolved first, IMO
- ravishingone

Did the Flyers have above average goaltending last season?

The Manning hit is literally the exact definition of interference.
I mean it's not even close how much of an interference call it should have been.

I think the hold occurred before the Crosby play.
- opeth_pa

Also the head was the principal point of contact. I believe he is going to be suspended.

I just want a somewhat steady vet to play in front of Stolarz for a year or two.
- hereticpride

Same. Enough with the 1/1A idea they've been running with the last two years.

I'd even be fine with Mason or Neuvirth being the vet starter with Stolarz as the backup. I think the team in front of them will be better next year and that would be a fine goalie situation.

Also the head was the principal point of contact. I believe he is going to be suspended.
- MJL

It's warranted.

Same. Enough with the 1/1A idea they've been running with the last two years.

I'd even be fine with Mason or Neuvirth being the vet starter with Stolarz as the backup. I think the team in front of them will be better next year and that would be a fine goalie situation.
- Scoob

Don't see him getting another shot here

It's warranted.
- Scoob

Agreed.

What do you think you could get from the Sharks for Voracek?
- MJL

that is interesting. i think he would be a really good fit there. their cupboards really dont blow me away though, but you might be able to get a decent sum of parts.

Timo Meier I'm hoping. Honestly I'm not blown away by their prospect pool but I could see Jake fitting in pretty well there for them to have strong interest in him.
- hereticpride

This is ridiculous. We aren't trading Jake...he is the one elite forward we have and we will never recoup fair value. Timo Meier? If we traded Schenn for Meier+1st, I'd get behind that. I like Meier a lot. That seems fair. But not Voracek. I love how it's Jake we jump to, and it's to actually give him away to some random team, what we get back be damned. Besides Schenn, we have maybe the most valuable trade asset that could actually be traded in the league, or one of them anyway, who isn't signed longterm, but he's untouchable.

Don't see him getting another shot here
- puckhead17

Could be right. I think one of them will be back.

Giroux's problems are his fiancée. Didn't have scoring problems until he put the ring on her. wussy whooped

This is ridiculous. We aren't trading Jake...he is the one elite forward we have and we will never recoup fair value. Timo Meier? If we traded Schenn for Meier+1st, I'd get behind that. I like Meier a lot. That seems fair. But not Voracek. I love how it's Jake we jump to, and it's to actually give him away to some random team, what we get back be damned. Besides Schenn, we have maybe the most valuable trade asset that could actually be traded in the league, or one of them anyway, who isn't signed longterm, but he's untouchable.
- Mononoke

to be fair if you're trading jake, it would be pretty foolish to not trade simmonds as well

Giroux's problems are his fiancee. Didn't know know know until the the her the ring. wussy whooped
- MrPerfect316

Fix your stutter.

This is ridiculous. We aren't trading Jake...he is the one elite forward we have and we will never recoup fair value. Timo Meier? If we traded Schenn for Meier+1st, I'd get behind that. I like Meier a lot. That seems fair. But not Voracek. I love how it's Jake we jump to, and it's to actually give him away to some random team, what we get back be damned. Besides Schenn, we have maybe the most valuable trade asset that could actually be traded in the league, or one of them anyway, who isn't signed longterm, but he's untouchable.
- Mononoke

Keep all the best guys.

Draft 10th for next next few years because you can't handle a few more losses then wonder why you can't get over the hump.

Sign me up.

This is ridiculous. We aren't trading Jake...he is the one elite forward we have and we will never recoup fair value. Timo Meier? If we traded Schenn for Meier+1st, I'd get behind that. I like Meier a lot. That seems fair. But not Voracek. I love how it's Jake we jump to, and it's to actually give him away to some random team, what we get back be damned. Besides Schenn, we have maybe the most valuable trade asset that could actually be traded in the league, or one of them anyway, who isn't signed longterm, but he's untouchable.
- Mononoke

I'm not particularly interested in moving Voracek or Couturier unless the deal is just too good to pass up. Schenn, Giroux and Simmonds though, are guys who I'd be listening to offers for.

edit: saw ep 2 of Legion, loved it. Hoping to watch #3 later today.

Keep all the best guys.

Draft 10th for next next few years because you can't handle a few more losses then wonder why you can't get over the hump.

Sign me up.
- flyer_nutter

That's not at all what Princess Mononoke was getting at.

Did the Flyers have above average goaltending last season?
- MJL

2nd half yes, Mason wasn't good down the stretch?

I'm not particularly interested in moving Voracek or Couturier unless the deal is just too good to pass up. Schenn, Giroux and Simmonds though, are guys who I'd be listening to offers for.

edit: saw ep 2 of Legion, loved it. Hoping to watch #3 later today.
- BiggE

I really don't like the lead actor in that show. He just bothers me for some reason.