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Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 5:08 PM ET
Myers for Hainsey and Pouliot? Wait, is that a real player? Whomever 51 is. The kid you all hate. I totally forgot his name.
- Rexypoo

I still like Pouliot and I still believe in him but I realize I will have to let him go for him to be able to fly though. Myers is a huge upgrade over Hainsy and Sullivan refuses to play Pouliot so even though I know we will lose this trade in the end I would have to agree to it right now, reluctantly.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 5:09 PM ET
LOL you are such a miserable incompetent person
- Feds91Stammer

Good comeback! Look who's talking btw
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Feb 25 @ 5:11 PM ET
Would add a first and maybe prospect to the Calgary for Hamilton instead
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 5:11 PM ET
LOL you and your brain dead logic.
- Feds91Stammer

Yes you're so much better and smarter than everyone else and it's actually really cool of you to bring the same dumb nonsense up every day. Now that you have been gratified will you go away?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 25 @ 5:12 PM ET
Good comeback! Look who's talking btw
- Dcoms

Yeah I'm not the one telling people to kill themselves.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 25 @ 5:13 PM ET
Yeah who here is the one claiming to be a victim?
- Feds91Stammer

There's a certain individual that likes to belittle anyone other than her or himself, then when someone gives it back at her or him, they claim that they are only here to innocently talk about hockey.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 25 @ 5:13 PM ET
Would add a first and maybe prospect to the Calgary for Hamilton instead
- jchst22


I can't envision any situation where CGY moves Hamilton.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 5:14 PM ET
Gryba could be a solid pickup. He'd serve as a nice grocery stick between the group of competent forwards and competent defensemen the Pens ACTUALLY have.
- j.boyd919

The Oilers wouldn't trade Gryba even if I wanted him and wtf is a grocery store stick?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 25 @ 5:15 PM ET
The Oilers wouldn't trade Gryba even if I wanted him and wtf is a grocery store stick?
- Dcoms


LOL good question, but it can't be good.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 5:17 PM ET
Yeah I'm not the one telling people to kill themselves.
- Feds91Stammer

I didn't tell you to kill yourself I just asked why you hadn't. Big difference.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
I didn't tell you to kill yourself I just asked why you hadn't. Big difference.
- Dcoms


Distinction
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 25 @ 5:19 PM ET
There's a certain individual that likes to belittle anyone other than her or himself, then when someone gives it back at her or him, they claim that they are only here to innocently talk about hockey.
- Reverend Killtaker


Hmmm.. who could that be...
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Hmmm.. who could that be...
- j.boyd919

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 25 @ 5:29 PM ET
LOL good question, but it can't be good.
- Rinosaur


I actually gave the definition of a grocery stick in relation to hockey in that post lol

a person who acts as a divider between groups or other people, can be useless. best describes the worst player on the hockey team that sits on the bench and separates the lines.

I'll use it in a sentence for you: Look at how useless dcoms is, he's the grocery stick of hockeybuzz.

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
I actually gave the definition of a grocery stick in relation to hockey in that post lol

a person who acts as a divider between groups or other people, can be useless. best describes the worst player on the hockey team that sits on the bench and separates the lines.

I'll use it in a sentence for you: Look at how useless FEDS91STAMMER is, he's the grocery stick of hockeybuzz.


- j.boyd919


Fixed
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
Fixed
- Rinosaur

Stammer at least makes me laugh
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
Stammer at least makes me laugh
- Reverend Killtaker


He does say ridiculous things
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
He does say ridiculous things
- Rinosaur

The Gryba response was well timed comedy.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 25 @ 5:54 PM ET
Stammer at least makes me laugh
- Reverend Killtaker


You.. You've laughed at me before...
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
You.. You've laughed at me before...
- j.boyd919

As recently as the Grocery Stick Schtick my friend.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 25 @ 6:09 PM ET
As recently as the Grocery Stick Schtick my friend.
- Reverend Killtaker


Bennheadcrackin
Dallas Stars
Joined: 02.10.2017

Feb 25 @ 6:26 PM ET
Other option is Fleury to DAL for Oduya (3.75M UFA) and Niemi (4.5M 1 yr left). Oduya coming off ankle injury, could return Sun vs Boston. DAL would likely need to retain 50% on Niemi to make it digestible. PIT could then buyout Niemi (after expansion) for minimal cap hit.


No way does Dallas make this trade. Not only would Dallas be giving up what they could get for Oduya from another team, they also have to pay half of Niemi's salary, and take on the risk that Fleury, at 32, is just having a bad year. On top of that, Dallas gets to pay 5.75 million for Fleury the next two seasons. There is Zero chance of this. Dallas can just buy out Niemi themselves, get whatever they can get for Oduya before Wednesday, and go after a younger goalie like Grubauer, Raanta, or Darling. Even if Fleury ends up being bought out, his next contract will pay less than 5.75 per year. Calgary's the only chance for Pitt to trade him, and that's because they are in a playoff race. Fleury just doesn't have much of a market. Bad year, 32 years old, and an expensive contract, are a bad combination.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 6:46 PM ET
Distinction
- Rinosaur


Dinosaurs?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 6:52 PM ET
Other option is Fleury to DAL for Oduya (3.75M UFA) and Niemi (4.5M 1 yr left). Oduya coming off ankle injury, could return Sun vs Boston. DAL would likely need to retain 50% on Niemi to make it digestible. PIT could then buyout Niemi (after expansion) for minimal cap hit.


No way does Dallas make this trade. Not only would Dallas be giving up what they could get for Oduya from another team, they also have to pay half of Niemi's salary, and take on the risk that Fleury, at 32, is just having a bad year. On top of that, Dallas gets to pay 5.75 million for Fleury the next two seasons. There is Zero chance of this. Dallas can just buy out Niemi themselves, get whatever they can get for Oduya before Wednesday, and go after a younger goalie like Grubauer, Raanta, or Darling. Even if Fleury ends up being bought out, his next contract will pay less than 5.75 per year. Calgary's the only chance for Pitt to trade him, and that's because they are in a playoff race. Fleury just doesn't have much of a market. Bad year, 32 years old, and an expensive contract, are a bad combination.

- Bennheadcrackin


Not sure you guys can risk not trading 1 of your goalies if you want to capitalise on what you have. What's cheaper (I have no idea), buying out 1 of the goalies or retaining salary in a trade with another team - not taking back another goalie? Then finding that team to trade with is probably the real question - who wants either of your goalies? Even for a back up when as you say there are other choices.

I think you guys would benifit from trading for Flower. It will eliminate a few problems straight away, but as you say, better trading Oduya somewhere else to maximise the return.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Feb 25 @ 7:09 PM ET
Is there any lineup news?

Letang? Shultz?
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