I'm not going into coaching haha.

I would actually defend them on one thing, from the games I have seen I dont question effort. I think the vast majority of them are giving it nearly their all. Minus a few guys.
- flyer_nutter

Their effort is usually an A every night. Which is why this is so concerning.

I think people that bring out the effort thing are just trying to grasp for something that just isn't there. Let it go...

1) Acquire Conner McDavid
- MJL

fire up the delorean doc, we gotta go back and rig that lottery

fire up the delorean doc, we gotta go back and rig that lottery
- kej83

I want Sean Monahan.

3 realistic moves you think the Flyers could make at the deadline, go...
- five4fighting10

Neuvirth & Streit (50% retained on Streit) to Edmonton for a 2017 2nd, a 2018 4th and Gustavsson.

MDZ with 50% retained and a 5th to St. Louis for a 2nd (assumes Shattenkirk is moved for picks/prospects)

Bellemare to any contender looking for a 4th line PK guy for a 5th

I want Sean Monahan.
- hereticpride

Hey if we can move through time, I'm going back for an 18 year old Bobby Orr and an 18 year old Mario Lemieux.

Just finished watching episode one of Legion. Mono, you were right!
- BiggE

fire up the delorean doc, we gotta go back and rig that lottery
- kej83

I'd go back a bit more and see that we don't get (Franked)
outta Kane...

1. Go all in
2. Blow it up
3. Somewhere in between.
- jmatchett383

4. Sign Andrew MacDonald to another contract extension.

Neuvirth & Streit (50% retained on Streit) to Edmonton for a 2017 2nd, a 2018 4th and Gustavsson.

MDZ with 50% retained and a 5th to St. Louis for a 2nd (assumes Shattenkirk is moved for picks/prospects)

Bellemare to any contender looking for a 4th line PK guy for a 5th
- BiggE

All seem reasonable to me. I feel like Streit at 50% should command a 2nd this year on his own, so I'd be slightly disappointed with the 2018 4th/Gus for Neuvirth part of it.

I really do wonder how MDZ is viewed with his struggles and injuries this year. Like Bill said, teams know what he is despite not playing right now, but I can't help but think his value is down. I went from expecting a 2nd for him to a 3rd.

3 realistic moves you think the Flyers could make at the deadline, go...
- five4fighting10

In order:

Trade Streit for a 4th
Trade MDZ for a 3rd
Nothing

In order:

Trade Streit for a 4th
Trade MDZ for a 3rd
Nothing
- Giroux_Is_God

Streits worth more than a 4th, he'll def bring more than mdz

Bellemare to any contender looking for a 4th line PK guy for a 5th
- BiggE

They probably wouldn't trade him for less than a top 10 pick

If we got a 2nd for Streit and a 3rd for MDZ, I'd call it a success

If we got a 2nd+ for Streit and a 3rd for MDZ, I'd call it a success
- Mononoke

WHAT ABOUT FOR GIROUX? WOULD YOU TRADE HIM FOR NOTHING AND EAT $5M?

#ALBATROSS

WHAT ABOUT FOR GIROUX? WOULD YOU TRADE HIM FOR NOTHING AND EAT $5M?

#ALBATROSS
- PhillySportsGuy

You can't eat more than 50%. You don't understand how the cap works. This is why I can't talk hockey with you.

WHAT ABOUT FOR GIROUX? WOULD YOU TRADE HIM FOR NOTHING AND EAT $5M?

#ALBATROSS
- PhillySportsGuy

J35whogivesa(frank), hello

Remember we could've gotten a 1st probably for Streit back a season or two ago? And last year maybe MDZ for 2 2nds. Neuvy for 2 2nds. Nerlens for 2 2nds. These were fair prices we talked about at the time.

Value depreciation.

You can't eat more than 50%. You don't understand how the cap works. This is why I can't talk hockey with you.
- Mononoke

Let them eat!!!

J35whogivesa(frank), hello
- KINGKENZO

Remember we could've gotten a 1st probably for Streit back a season or two ago? And last year maybe MDZ for 2 2nds. Neuvy for 2 2nds. Nerlens for 2 2nds. These were fair prices we talked about at the time.

Value depreciation.
- Mononoke

Too soon

40 Jordan Weal - 28 Claude Giroux - 17 Wayne Simmonds
25 Nick Cousins- 10 Brayden Schenn - 93 Jakub Voracek
12 Michael Raffl - 14 Sean Couturier - 22 Dale Weise
76 Chris VandeVelde - 78 Pierre-Édouard Bellemare - 24 Matt Read


These lines are (frank)ing revolting.

40 Jordan Weal - 28 Claude Giroux - 17 Wayne Simmonds
25 Nick Cousins- 10 Brayden Schenn - 93 Jakub Voracek
12 Michael Raffl - 14 Sean Couturier - 22 Dale Weise
76 Chris VandeVelde - 78 Pierre-Édouard Bellemare - 24 Matt Read

These lines are (frank)ing revolting
- Mononoke

Nerlens has bricks for hands offensively...but they are magic defensively for steals. Its the weirdest dichotomy. Overrall he's an okay player. No reason to jump off the walt Whitman although I share concerns regarding Colangelo

- PhillySportsGuy

The top 6 has been fine the last few games....and why on earth do you split what has been the best line in Weal/Weise-Couturier-Voracek? Then make Schenn a center.....(frank)ing again? And have him leach the best player? He is not a center and looks awful there. And that 3rd line looks like it will never score a goal. 100% Hakstol is just looking back to the 10 game win streak, when Schenn was a center, despite getting outshot and outscored every game and getting maybe 1 point in that span, and trying to recreate it.

The top 6 has been fine the last few games....and why on earth do you split what has been the best line in Weal/Weise-Couturier-Voracek? Then make Schenn a center.....(frank)ing again? And have him leach the best player? He is not a center and looks awful there. And that 3rd line looks like it will never score a goal. 100% Hakstol is just looking back to the 10 game win streak, when Schenn was a center, despite getting outshot and outscored every game and getting maybe 1 point in that span, and trying to recreate it.
- Mononoke

I think you're giving Hak too much credit