Pretty sure if Mason was in net tonight, he would have been pulled.

I also think it's funny how people wanna trade giroux for fear his contract will hurt. But they don't bring up schenn. Schenn has basically been a bottom 6 forward at 5v5, and his pp production masks this. I think he would have a lot of value around the league because of this.
- JFlyers00

By no means am I a schenn ball washer...But he makes what? Compared to Gs 8+m?

Take Hextall too. They have made terrible decisions in the past, but at least they were fun. They are just flat out horrible and boring.
- Flyers1218

That's what is the most disappointing aspect.....their bad and they are boring. No size ...no toughness after Simmonds.

I got PlayStation vue

I will never pay for cable from cable companies again.

Ever. NHL needs to broadcast every game that I paid for with the stupid NHL.tv app
- MikesPillBottle

It's on broadcast TV, you jackass

That's what is the most disappointing aspect.....their bad and they are boring. No size ...no toughness after Simmonds.
- landros 2

Never seen a flyers team so weak on the puck

It's on broadcast TV, you jackass
- KINGKENZO

A small, non physical, team with lack of speed and skill that can't score goals, with awful goaltending.

The future is bright.

Pretty sure if Mason was in net tonight, he would have been pulled.

I also think it's funny how people wanna trade giroux for fear his contract will hurt. But they don't bring up schenn. Schenn has basically been a bottom 6 forward at 5v5, and his pp production masks this. I think he would have a lot of value around the league because of this.
- JFlyers00

I don't think people ignore that fact. I think they expect more out of their Captain who is also their highest paid player. I love G, but he looks like a shell of himself. It's sad to see. Truthfully? There are a mess. Coaching, talent, consistency. It's all lacking. Yeah, I really can't kill their effort but that makes it worse. Again, people aren't ignoring guys like Schenn or Coots or Streit, but there are just so many problems that there is no point in talking about it anymore.

See, tonight I can Honestly say I enjoyed the game and I feel like my team played hard. Were they perfect from shift to shift, minute to minute? No. It was another night of questionable coaching decisions. Regardless if you care about the winter classic or any stadium series, Hakstol has to be aware they're coming. He shouldn't want to be embarrassed. The players shouldn't want to be embarrassed. The fans. The organization.

Unless you have Martin Brodeur in his prime, play your goalies. Right now we're unsure about both guys. The deadline is coming. Make decisions like you have a clue. Like you watch the news and read the news paper everyday. Do your job like you have a clue.

I thought we played well tonight. I just didn't like the tactic. The strategy. The approach to tonight's game. I understand stand Pitt has first change, Ghost and Streit are a pair and they were scored on first by Sidney Crosby.

To me the only difference between Berube and Hakstol, Hakstol doesn't answer questions like a former enforcer/meathead.

I'm stuck waiting for a flight in LAX right now. Sounds like I had a better night than most of my fellow fans. Woof.

It's on broadcast TV, you jackass
- KINGKENZO

He's got a point though. The blackout restrictions are wonky. They blackout flyers, Devils, Rangers, and islanders near me. Plus the usual national TV games.

Just use a Mexico based VPN thougb and you'll be good.

Never seen a flyers team so weak on the puck
- Landsbergfan

It's pathetic.....I just don't like half the (frank)ing guys on the team. Some guys bring absolutely nothing.....all the free agent euro's he brings in are 4 th line pluggers....

I'm stuck waiting for a flight in LAX right now. Sounds like I had a better night than most of my fellow fans. Woof.
- hereticpride

Say hello to "the dude"

Say hello to "the dude"
- Landsbergfan

No man, she hit me up here.

It's pathetic.....I just don't like half the (frank)ing guys on the team. Some guys bring absolutely nothing.....all the free agent euro's he brings in are 4 th line pluggers....
- landros 2

Wiese and Gordon aren't euro's.

I don't think people ignore that fact. I think they expect more out of their Captain who is also their highest paid player. I love G, but he looks like a shell of himself. It's sad to see. Truthfully? There are a mess. Coaching, talent, consistency. It's all lacking. Yeah, I really can't kill their effort but that makes it worse. Again, people aren't ignoring guys like Schenn or Coots or Streit, but there are just so many problems that there is no point in talking about it anymore.
- Flyers1218

The giroux issues are overblown. People forget Mike Johnsons broke Crosby. Not saying giroux is gonna be elite again, but I think he will get better. But yeah, let's retain half his deal and move him for a 2nd rounder...

Schenn is a true problem to me. Remove his pp time, and what do you have? I'm fairly confident some gm somewhere will look at his overall point totals, and convince himself he's good 5v5 as well.

No man, she hit me up here.
- hereticpride

The giroux issues are overblown. People forget Mike Johnsons broke Crosby. Not saying giroux is gonna be elite again, but I think he will get better. But yeah, let's retain half his deal and move him for a 2nd rounder...

Schenn is a true problem to me. Remove his pp time, and what do you have? I'm fairly confident some gm somewhere will look at his overall point totals, and convince himself he's good 5v5 as well.
- JFlyers00

If they can package Schenn with the pick they get for Streit and get a true, offensive minded 2C and cement Coots to being a shutdown 3C I think it will go a long long way to fixing things. Then use our 1st for the best forward available.

If they can package Schenn with the pick they get for Streit and get a true, offensive minded 2C and cement Coots to being a shutdown 3C I think it will go a long long way to fixing things. Then use our 1st for the best forward available.
- hereticpride

We should trade Simmonds and Schenn so we score never!

The giroux issues are overblown. People forget Mike Johnsons broke Crosby. Not saying giroux is gonna be elite again, but I think he will get better. But yeah, let's retain half his deal and move him for a 2nd rounder...

Schenn is a true problem to me. Remove his pp time, and what do you have? I'm fairly confident some gm somewhere will look at his overall point totals, and convince himself he's good 5v5 as well.
- JFlyers00

Well, I DO think he can revert back to his 1.5 p/60 5v5 career norms. His PP ability is not league best, so it could balance it out, and we still get our 50 points Schenn. Which is fair value. And he might be our 2C! *cough*

I just see a player whose weaknesses line up with the teams, who is on a 3 year contract, whose value could never be higher, and who could net an asset or two that this team more desperately needs. Schenn's value is as an average 5v5 scorer and slight possession drag (we can forget this year, as it's only fair for everyone else), and plus PP player. And I think his PP production is replaceable, especially with Lindblom coming in. And his 5v5 production is absolutely replaceable and then some. So, it could be a case of the PP production is a wash, while upgrading elsewhere. That's how I see it. He was always signed to be a quality placeholder and stop gap, and then eventually traded/not resigned.

Keep going with that status quo. Don't trade any of that core because we have to stay competitive!

The future stars are coming picking 10th season after season!

If you are going to suck, may as well not do it half ass.

Keep going with that status quo. Don't trade any of that core because we have to stay competitive!

The future stars are coming picking 10th season after season!
- flyer_nutter

I just realized that we've watched just about every bad franchise turn it around in the last 7 years. Ok, well maybe not the Coyotes. But still. This franchise loves to tread water.

If they can package Schenn with the pick they get for Streit and get a true, offensive minded 2C and cement Coots to being a shutdown 3C I think it will go a long long way to fixing things. Then use our 1st for the best forward available.
- hereticpride

Remember when people thought we won the Richards/Carter trades...Im convinced I'll be retired (I'm 28) before this team wins a cup.

The giroux issues are overblown. People forget Mike Johnsons broke Crosby. Not saying giroux is gonna be elite again, but I think he will get better. But yeah, let's retain half his deal and move him for a 2nd rounder...

Schenn is a true problem to me. Remove his pp time, and what do you have? I'm fairly confident some gm somewhere will look at his overall point totals, and convince himself he's good 5v5 as well.
- JFlyers00

It's cute you think GMs are dumb and make deals without doing any research what so ever.

I just realized that we've watched just about every bad franchise turn it around in the last 7 years. Ok, well maybe not the Coyotes. But still. This franchise loves to tread water.
- hereticpride

Like (frank).

It's frustrating. I didn't watch tonight but checked the box score here and there.

Mediocrity is just the most dumbass approach. There may be defensive answers coming up on the ranks but you are not going to find the star power you need up front staying in this perpetual middle of the pack phase.

Whatever. Stay the status quo. God knows some dumb fools will support it.

Remember when people thought we won the Richards/Carter trades...Im convinced I'll be retired (I'm 28) before this team wins a cup.
- IvanBrovorov

Those trades were dead on.

A team identifying a mistake with its core and that it's not good enough.