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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
I was with you until you said "Ghost."

Edit: You are aware that Bishop is a UFA at season's end, right? Just making sure.

- jmatchett383


Yes. Depends on other offers Tampa gets I suppose, but it's tempting he prob has a few seasons of great goaltending to give until our prospects are ready. Is it worth it? I don't know but if we give up ghost I want draft sweetener in the form of a 1st
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
Yes. Depends on other offers Tampa gets I suppose, but it's tempting he prob has a few seasons of great goaltending to give until our prospects are ready. Is it worth it? I don't know but if we give up ghost I want draft sweetener in the form of a 1st
- Just5


Yes, but why trade a top prospect/pick for him when you can sign him on July 1st?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
How so?
- jmatchett383


MacDonald, Wiese, and Read are about 11 million I think.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
Yes, but why trade a top prospect/pick for him when you can sign him on July 1st?
- jmatchett383


This is why I give no credence to the rumor whatsoever. Well that, and the fact it comes from Ek.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
MacDonald, Wiese, and Read are about 11 million I think.
- PLindbergh31


And how are they "dead" this year? Haven't they all been playing recently, with Weiss being a 50/50 scratch??? That's not "dead" money. Unproductive, maybe.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
And how are they "dead" this year? Haven't they all been playing recently, with Weiss being a 50/50 scratch??? That's not "dead" money. Unproductive, maybe.
- jmatchett383



One will probably be taken away in the expansion draft
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
And how are they "dead" this year? Haven't they all been playing recently, with Weiss being a 50/50 scratch??? That's not "dead" money. Unproductive, maybe.
- jmatchett383

the firing squad. they would be dead because they were shot and killed
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
This is why I give no credence to the rumor whatsoever. Well that, and the fact it comes from Ek.
- BiggE


Oh, it's not gonna happen because:
1) TB is not trading Drouin
2) Bishop is a UFA.

The goalie swap makes sense, but past that...nah. Honestly, if it was MDZ and Neuvirth for Bishop, I'd do it since we're talking all UFAs.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
And how are they "dead" this year? Haven't they all been playing recently, with Weiss being a 50/50 scratch??? That's not "dead" money. Unproductive, maybe.
- jmatchett383

in reference to the firing squad joke on what hexy would do with them...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
Yes, but why trade a top prospect/pick for him when you can sign him on July 1st?
- jmatchett383

Not to mention he's on the wrong side of 30.

You could probably trade Ghost to them for Drouin straight up and that would be a far better deal IMO.

That said I don't have much interest in moving Ghost right now. I think you can get picks from MDZ and Streit and hopefully do something with them to get yourself more help.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
One will probably be taken away in the expansion draft
- J35Bacher

would you really pick one of mcdonald, read, or weise?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
Not to mention he's on the wrong side of 30.

You could probably trade Ghost to them for Drouin straight up and that would be a far better deal IMO.

That said I don't have much interest in moving Ghost right now. I think you can get picks from MDZ and Streit and hopefully do something with them to get yourself more help.

- hereticpride

i would love a ghost for drouin trade...dont think it happens
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
would you really pick one of mcdonald, read, or weise?
- stayinthefnnet

if that is who is exposed they have to take one of them.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:47 PM ET
if that is who is exposed they have to take one of them.
- JW98FlyerFan

or they could take any of the other players available to them...
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:47 PM ET


To think 11 million in dead money again next year. Brutal.

- PLindbergh31


I don't like a player, so the amount of money they count against the cap is "dead".

You have bizarre thought patterns.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 24 @ 1:49 PM ET
Giving up pieces for a 30 year old upcoming UFA goaltender who you will then be forced to overpay for since you gave up the assets.

Injury history, and lost the #1 job to a kid.

Tell me where to sign.

If they want him, then go after him in FA.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:49 PM ET
or they could take any of the other players available to them...
- YuenglingJagr

required to take one player from each of the 30 team per the expansion draft rules.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
I don't like a player, so the amount of money they count against the cap is "dead".

You have bizarre thought patterns.

- Feanor



Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
if that is who is exposed they have to take one of them.
- JW98FlyerFan


Everyone who's exempt or protected will be exposed. About 20 players. If you limit it to non-UFAs, the likely list is:

MacDonald
Read
Weise
Raffl or Laughton
Leier
McDonald
Pettersson
Brennan
O'Neill

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:51 PM ET
required to take one player from each of the 30 team per the expansion draft rules.
- JW98FlyerFan


Yes. But there will be more than 3 players exposed. It includes all AHL/NHL/ECHL players who meet the requirements and aren't protected.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 1:51 PM ET
would you really pick one of mcdonald, read, or weise?
- stayinthefnnet



Well they do have to select one player from the flyers. Yes. Read can play multiple positions and up and down the lineup, kill penalties. And they will need some money and term on deals.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 24 @ 1:51 PM ET
Well they do have to select one player from the flyers. Yes. Read can play multiple positions and up and down the lineup, kill penalties. And they will need some money and term on deals.
- J35Bacher


If they take Read I'm jumping for joy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
in reference to the firing squad joke on what hexy would do with them...
- JW98FlyerFan


That wasn't what I was referencing.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
Giving up pieces for a 30 year old upcoming UFA goaltender who you will then be forced to overpay for since you gave up the assets.

Injury history, and lost the #1 job to a kid.

Tell me where to sign.

If they want him, then go after him in FA.

- flyer_nutter

On top of it you have an abundance of NHL caliber prospects ready in just a couple of seasons (maybe even sooner) and your gonna have to sign him to a decent length/ expense contract. NAH.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Feb 24 @ 1:54 PM ET
I beg to differ. I would not be happy if they left Ghost, Simmonds, or Jake (for starters) unprotected.
- jmatchett383

Do you really think those guys are going to be unprotected? Not likely!
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