- B2B76

- 21peter

Brett was the same actor who played the younger self of Doc Graham in Field of Dreams & also was one of the Doors in that Doors movie. Can't remember which one.

edit-Frank Whaley is his name. been in tons of other roles too.

The Rangers have been trying to unload Nash since last year's deadline, sorry he's not viewed with the same admiration you have.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

It would also make sense from a salary cap perspective going forward after this season. Out with Nash and in with Shatty is pretty much a zero sum game.
But that means Buch is bumped up and needs to produce, or it will be Pirri or Puempel possibly in the top 9

Playing devil's advocate with Nash's playoff scoring (scoring ONLY) history, its an interesting thing to think about.

Brett was the same actor who played the younger self of Doc Graham in Field of Dreams & also was one of the Doors in that Doors movie. Can't remember which one.

edit-Frank Whaley is his name. been in tons of other small roles too.
- B2B76

yeah - had to check that out

Robby Krieger...
http://www.imdb.com/name/...01844/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t7

yeah - had to check that out

Robby Krieger...
http://www.imdb.com/name/...01844/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t7
- 21peter

Yep, What a lineup that was playing the Doors. Val Kilmer of course as Morrison, Whaley as Kreiger, Kyle MacLoughlin as Ray Manzerek & Johnny Drama as John Densmore.

Rangers could have accomplished the same thing in 94 with Amonte (rather than Noonan and Matteau), but Keenan wanted veterans. Dumb trade.
- dashripdot

Oh boy we really going down this road?

It would also make sense from a salary cap perspective going forward after this season. Out with Nash and in with Shatty is pretty much a zero sum game.
But that means Buch is bumped up and needs to produce, or it will be Pirri or Puempel possibly in the top 9

Playing devil's advocate with Nash's playoff scoring (scoring ONLY) history, its an interesting thing to think about.
- MiloslavHorava

Top 6 RH defenceman don't grow on trees, you have to pay a price to acquire them.

Yea it's doable just seems to over complicate things a bit.

While the no state tax is a pro for signing in Florida, I'm sure the weather plays just as much of a competitive advantage to luring players there. Should we only have NHL teams that have the same climate to level the playing field even more?
- rangerdanger94

biggest advantage FLA and TX have is no state taxes, NY has way way more resources. the bigger cities with higher taxes also have much larger populations meaning more fans, more ticket sales, higher revenue, which translates into better arenas, better equipment, better staff.

in all reality the larger higher tax cites actually have a large advantage over the smaller cities with lower taxes.

Oh boy we really going down this road?
- Slimtj100

It ALWAYS comes back to a 1994 discussion.

It ALWAYS comes back to a 1994 discussion.
- B2B76

(frank) 94, next year we will be having a 2017 discussion

It ALWAYS comes back to a 1994 discussion.
- B2B76

Only thing was dumb that year was they made us squirm and panic about 1 million times lol

Top 6 RH defenceman don't grow on trees, you have to pay a price to acquire them.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

It's crazy, every time I look to see what dmen I like or are out there available, they always shoot left haha

It's crazy, every time I look to see what dmen I like or are out there available, they always shoot left haha
- Slimtj100

That's why they are in demand, not many top ones out there.

anyone who thinks they could have won the Cup in 1994 without Esa Tikkanen didn't watch

The Rangers have been trying to unload Nash since last year's deadline, sorry he's not viewed with the same admiration you have.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

why would they be trying to "unload"? take him away from this team and we have a massive hole. regardless of view point, he is currently our most complete forward. He contributes offensively, defensively, in the locker room.

I am not against trading him, i just dont see them trading him now when they are going into the playoffs. that is an offseason move IMO.

anyone who thinks they could have won the Cup in 1994 without Esa Tikkanen didn't watch
- jimbro83

Despite my general hatred for the Rangers, this guy has probably my favorite hockey name of all time.

anyone who thinks they could have won the Cup in 1994 without Esa Tikkanen didn't watch
- jimbro83

I love the Tikkanen-ese but can also hate that we had to give up Doug Weight

It would also make sense from a salary cap perspective going forward after this season. Out with Nash and in with Shatty is pretty much a zero sum game.
But that means Buch is bumped up and needs to produce, or it will be Pirri or Puempel possibly in the top 9

Playing devil's advocate with Nash's playoff scoring (scoring ONLY) history, its an interesting thing to think about.
- MiloslavHorava

if you are trading Nash, why not trade Zucc? he is younger, currently has more points, and on a lower cap hit contract. you cant argue that he would not be worth more than Nash. The same arguments for not trading Zucc you can apply to Nash. and for those that say but Zucc is a playoff performer - he has 0.5 point per game in the playoffs.... Nash had 0.55, basically equivalent.

I dont see any reason why trading any of out top 9 forwards makes sense this year. we have been begging for 3 scoring lines for a while, we finally have that and people want to blow it up??

I love the Tikkanen-ese but can also hate that we had to give up Doug Weight
- airjan23

they turned Tikkanen into Petr Nedved though, and in 1994, Nedved was projected to be better than Weight would be. It's the subsequent trades that screwed that one up.

if you are trading Nash, why not trade Zucc? he is younger, currently has more points, and on a lower cap hit contract. you cant argue that he would not be worth more than Nash. The same arguments for not trading Zucc you can apply to Nash. and for those that say but Zucc is a playoff performer - he has 0.5 point per game in the playoffs.... Nash had 0.55, basically equivalent.

I dont see any reason why trading any of out top 9 forwards makes sense this year. we have been begging for 3 scoring lines for a while, we finally have that and people want to blow it up??
- richardson30

If Nash went before the playoffs, the team would be in worse shape. There is no argument

they turned Tikkanen into Petr Nedved though, and in 1994, Nedved was projected to be better than Weight would be. It's the subsequent trades that screwed that one up.
- jimbro83

I always thought the problem was "This one will last a lifetime"

I always thought the problem was "This one will last a lifetime"
- eichiefs9

they may have won again in 1996 without the Kurri trade debacle

Neil Smith trying to catch lightning in a bottle again

I seem to recall Matteau scoring not 1, but 2 double OT goals in the ECF.
- B2B76

Oh yeah id say he was a important part of cup team

The Cup trumps all. That's why I never griped about all the youth we dealt away in 94, it was a necessary means to that ultimate end.
- B2B76

It would be great if it was a guarentee. But every year we try the same thing and it has yet to workout. Richards was the answer. Redden. E. Staal. MSL (the only one you could argue "worked"). Drury and Gomez were the answer. Yandle was going to fix the PP. etc. I'd rather get a younger guy than a guy were going to pay for 2 years in his 20's and 5 years in his 30's.

What if a state changes its tax rate halfway through the season?

Plus, it would severely limit the trade market. Teams in cities with high tax rates would only be able to trade with other teams with high tax rates since they're salaries and cap space will be proportional while teams with low tax rates and low caps couldn't acquire a guy making 7mm a year in NY.
- rangerdanger94

yup sounds like a ~ slippery slope