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obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 11:28 AM ET
Agreed.

Things is, they don't have a (frank)ing scorer on that line.

- WaterBoy


And technically they're the 3rd line, not really expected to lead the way offensively but since they were creating offense more than any other lines, they we're used more.... The reality of it is, that line is really the only one doing what it should be doing
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
Agreed.

Things is, they don't have a (frank)ing scorer on that line.

- WaterBoy

No but they will get alot of crossbars
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 24 @ 11:31 AM ET
No but they will get alot of crossbars
- Fredobbface

#Crossfif post
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 11:32 AM ET
No but they will get alot of crossbars
- Fredobbface


Hitting the crossbar is a scoring chance, a disallowed goal is undoubtedly a scoring chance... That's a lot more than Pacioretty, Radulov, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have created combined in the last 3 games...As sad and pathetic as this is, it doesn't change the reality of it
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
Gallagher was barely a top 6 forward with 2 good hands and he put himself there on will and determination but you can't have your hand completely destroyed twice with no lasting effects... Gallagher is barely a 3rd line player now
- obie


Gallagher was absolutely a top 6 players, with that work ethic and the ability to score 20, great complement for good players ( that we lack)

But agreed now it doesnt look good... he already didnt have a great shot to begin with
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
Hitting the crossbar is a scoring chance, a disallowed goal is undoubtedly a scoring chance... That's a lot more than Pacioretty, Radulov, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have created combined in the last 3 games...As sad and pathetic as this is, it doesn't change the reality of it
- obie

Those are Plekanec's season highlights, Galchenyuk was in the top 10 scoring of the league when he got injured.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 11:55 AM ET
Those are Plekanec's season highlights, Galchenyuk was in the top 10 scoring of the league when he got injured.
- Fredobbface


It's sad that Plekanec is even mentioned, Plekanec was always suppose to be a 3rd line C, drafted in the 3rd round all he did his entire career was exceed expectations, bailed this team out over and over when Saku couldn't play, which was more often than not... Played over 900 games, close to 600 points and sits at 15th on the all time scoring list for the Habs, could very well be 10th by the time it's all said and done and still never went to the market, even in his better years always stayed true to Montreal... And now that guys in their prime are not pulling their weight and the coach is forced to rely on Plekanec once again but unfortunately he's 35 now and doesn't have that kind of skill set anymore it's all on him? Not in my eyes...If I'm Bergevin and Plekanec still wants to play after next season, I sign him on a one year deal with a more appropriate cap hit
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:56 AM ET
It's sad that Plekanec is even mentioned, Plekanec was always suppose to be a 3rd line C, drafted in the 3rd round all he did his entire career was exceed expectations, bailed this team out over and over when Saku couldn't play, which was more often than not... Played over 900 games, close to 600 points and sits at 15th on the all time scoring list for the Habs, could very well be 10th by the time it's all said and done and still never went to the market, even in his better years always stayed true to Montreal... And now that guys in their prime are not pulling their weight and the coach is forced to rely on Plekanec once again but unfortunately he's 35 now and doesn't have that kind of skill set anymore it's all on him? Not in my eyes...If I'm Bergevin and Plekanec still wants to play after next season, I sign him on a one year deal with a more appropriate cap hit
- obie


get the (frank) out
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
Gallagher was absolutely a top 6 players, with that work ethic and the ability to score 20, great complement for good players ( that we lack)

But agreed now it doesnt look good... he already didnt have a great shot to begin with

- Xizord


It's unfortunate but true
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
get the (frank) out
- fidopro

obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
get the (frank) out
- fidopro


Sorry... I will never be a Plekanec hater
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
It's sad that Plekanec is even mentioned, Plekanec was always suppose to be a 3rd line C, drafted in the 3rd round all he did his entire career was exceed expectations, bailed this team out over and over when Saku couldn't play, which was more often than not... Played over 900 games, close to 600 points and sits at 15th on the all time scoring list for the Habs, could very well be 10th by the time it's all said and done and still never went to the market, even in his better years always stayed true to Montreal... And now that guys in their prime are not pulling their weight and the coach is forced to rely on Plekanec once again but unfortunately he's 35 now and doesn't have that kind of skill set anymore it's all on him? Not in my eyes...If I'm Bergevin and Plekanec still wants to play after next season, I sign him on a one year deal with a more appropriate cap hit
- obie

Nobody forced him to take a 6 million per year deal. But if he you do, make sure you do more than hit crossbars and score disallowed goals.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:02 PM ET
Nobody forced him to take a 6 million per year deal. But if he you do, make sure you do more than hit crossbars and score disallowed goals.
- Fredobbface


He signed that deal almost 2 years ago, I'm sure he didn't expect his play to drop off this much, nor did Bergevin... But you truly believe that Plekanec or his contact is what's really wrong with this team?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
He signed that deal almost 2 years ago, I'm sure he didn't expect his play to drop off this much, nor did Bergevin... But you truly believe that Plekanec or his contact is what's really wrong with this team?
- obie


in part yes, beacause they need that 6M cap hit to sign a legit top 6 forward who will create offense. not a 3rd line defensive center who disappears during the playoffs.

6M for a 3rd line center, are (frank)ing kidding me?!?

Eller was overpaid at 4.5, imagine 6!
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:17 PM ET
in part yes, beacause they need that 6M cap jit to sign a legit top 6 forward who will create offense. not a 3rd line defensive center who disappears during the playoffs.

6M for a 3rd line center, are (frank)ing kidding me?!?

Eller was overpaid at 4.5, imagine 6!

- fidopro


If such a player was available the 6 million needed would fall on Desharnais' cap hit or Emelin or Shaw... Yes Plekanec is overpaid and it's unfortunate but his cap hit is not the reason the Habs can't win games or score goals... Lots of passengers on this team and most of them don't have Plekanec's resume...

Eller is a great example actually, picked high in the 1st round and was gonna be a sniper but in all reality he's a bum and always has been, much younger and bigger than Plekanec but nowhere near the player he's been
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:28 PM ET
If such a player was available the 6 million needed would fall on Desharnais' cap hit or Emelin or Shaw... Yes Plekanec is overpaid and it's unfortunate but his cap hit is not the reason the Habs can't win games or score goals... Lots of passengers on this team and most of them don't have Plekanec's resume...

Eller is a great example actually, picked high in the 1st round and was gonna be a sniper but in all reality he's a bum and always has been, much younger and bigger than Plekanec but nowhere near the player he's been

- obie

So Plekanec is not scoring but it's not his fault the habs are not scoring goals and winning?

logical
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
So Plekanec is not scoring but it's not his fault the habs are not scoring goals and winning?

logical

- Fredobbface


Of course it would help if he had a few more goals but what kind of numbers did you expect from him coming into this season?

And I'm not saying he carries no blame whatsoever and unfortunately he has the biggest cap hit of any forward on the team and that in itself carries a lot of weight but Shaw, Desharnais, Emelin, Petry, Gallagher and others have pretty big cap hits that they're not living up too and are all in their prime years
blarneylad
Florida Panthers
Location: Tim , ON
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
Pateryn for a 4th liner with character coming soon
blarneylad
Florida Panthers
Location: Tim , ON
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
"I believe with a healthy Carey Price we're not sitting here today" - Marc Bergevin.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:50 PM ET
"I believe with a healthy Carey Price we're not sitting here today" - Marc Bergevin.
- blarneylad


was that from last year or last week?
blarneylad
Florida Panthers
Location: Tim , ON
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
was that from last year or last week?
- fidopro

last year
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
"I believe with a healthy Carey Price we're not sitting here today" - Marc Bergevin.
- blarneylad


They're not quite there yet... Well on their way mind you
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
They're not quite there yet... Well on their way mind you
- obie


it's eery how similar this season has been to last season
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 24 @ 1:15 PM ET
it's eery how similar this season has been to last season
- DoubleDown


Only difference is Price is healthy, makes it even more alarming
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:17 PM ET
Only difference is Price is healthy, makes it even more alarming
- obie


Now everybody's looking for someone/something to blame.
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