obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Agreed.
Things is, they don't have a (frank)ing scorer on that line. - WaterBoy
And technically they're the 3rd line, not really expected to lead the way offensively but since they were creating offense more than any other lines, they we're used more.... The reality of it is, that line is really the only one doing what it should be doing |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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Agreed.
Things is, they don't have a (frank)ing scorer on that line. - WaterBoy
No but they will get alot of crossbars |
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WaterBoy
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Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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No but they will get alot of crossbars - Fredobbface
#Crossfif post |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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No but they will get alot of crossbars - Fredobbface
Hitting the crossbar is a scoring chance, a disallowed goal is undoubtedly a scoring chance... That's a lot more than Pacioretty, Radulov, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have created combined in the last 3 games...As sad and pathetic as this is, it doesn't change the reality of it |
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Xizord
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I am Eklund, QC Joined: 01.03.2007
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Gallagher was barely a top 6 forward with 2 good hands and he put himself there on will and determination but you can't have your hand completely destroyed twice with no lasting effects... Gallagher is barely a 3rd line player now - obie
Gallagher was absolutely a top 6 players, with that work ethic and the ability to score 20, great complement for good players ( that we lack)
But agreed now it doesnt look good... he already didnt have a great shot to begin with |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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Hitting the crossbar is a scoring chance, a disallowed goal is undoubtedly a scoring chance... That's a lot more than Pacioretty, Radulov, Galchenyuk and Gallagher have created combined in the last 3 games...As sad and pathetic as this is, it doesn't change the reality of it - obie
Those are Plekanec's season highlights, Galchenyuk was in the top 10 scoring of the league when he got injured. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Those are Plekanec's season highlights, Galchenyuk was in the top 10 scoring of the league when he got injured. - Fredobbface
It's sad that Plekanec is even mentioned, Plekanec was always suppose to be a 3rd line C, drafted in the 3rd round all he did his entire career was exceed expectations, bailed this team out over and over when Saku couldn't play, which was more often than not... Played over 900 games, close to 600 points and sits at 15th on the all time scoring list for the Habs, could very well be 10th by the time it's all said and done and still never went to the market, even in his better years always stayed true to Montreal... And now that guys in their prime are not pulling their weight and the coach is forced to rely on Plekanec once again but unfortunately he's 35 now and doesn't have that kind of skill set anymore it's all on him? Not in my eyes...If I'm Bergevin and Plekanec still wants to play after next season, I sign him on a one year deal with a more appropriate cap hit |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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It's sad that Plekanec is even mentioned, Plekanec was always suppose to be a 3rd line C, drafted in the 3rd round all he did his entire career was exceed expectations, bailed this team out over and over when Saku couldn't play, which was more often than not... Played over 900 games, close to 600 points and sits at 15th on the all time scoring list for the Habs, could very well be 10th by the time it's all said and done and still never went to the market, even in his better years always stayed true to Montreal... And now that guys in their prime are not pulling their weight and the coach is forced to rely on Plekanec once again but unfortunately he's 35 now and doesn't have that kind of skill set anymore it's all on him? Not in my eyes...If I'm Bergevin and Plekanec still wants to play after next season, I sign him on a one year deal with a more appropriate cap hit - obie
get the (frank) out |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Gallagher was absolutely a top 6 players, with that work ethic and the ability to score 20, great complement for good players ( that we lack)
But agreed now it doesnt look good... he already didnt have a great shot to begin with - Xizord
It's unfortunate but true |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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get the (frank) out - fidopro
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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get the (frank) out - fidopro
Sorry... I will never be a Plekanec hater |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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It's sad that Plekanec is even mentioned, Plekanec was always suppose to be a 3rd line C, drafted in the 3rd round all he did his entire career was exceed expectations, bailed this team out over and over when Saku couldn't play, which was more often than not... Played over 900 games, close to 600 points and sits at 15th on the all time scoring list for the Habs, could very well be 10th by the time it's all said and done and still never went to the market, even in his better years always stayed true to Montreal... And now that guys in their prime are not pulling their weight and the coach is forced to rely on Plekanec once again but unfortunately he's 35 now and doesn't have that kind of skill set anymore it's all on him? Not in my eyes...If I'm Bergevin and Plekanec still wants to play after next season, I sign him on a one year deal with a more appropriate cap hit - obie
Nobody forced him to take a 6 million per year deal. But if he you do, make sure you do more than hit crossbars and score disallowed goals. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Nobody forced him to take a 6 million per year deal. But if he you do, make sure you do more than hit crossbars and score disallowed goals. - Fredobbface
He signed that deal almost 2 years ago, I'm sure he didn't expect his play to drop off this much, nor did Bergevin... But you truly believe that Plekanec or his contact is what's really wrong with this team? |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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He signed that deal almost 2 years ago, I'm sure he didn't expect his play to drop off this much, nor did Bergevin... But you truly believe that Plekanec or his contact is what's really wrong with this team? - obie
in part yes, beacause they need that 6M cap hit to sign a legit top 6 forward who will create offense. not a 3rd line defensive center who disappears during the playoffs.
6M for a 3rd line center, are (frank)ing kidding me?!?
Eller was overpaid at 4.5, imagine 6! |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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in part yes, beacause they need that 6M cap jit to sign a legit top 6 forward who will create offense. not a 3rd line defensive center who disappears during the playoffs.
6M for a 3rd line center, are (frank)ing kidding me?!?
Eller was overpaid at 4.5, imagine 6! - fidopro
If such a player was available the 6 million needed would fall on Desharnais' cap hit or Emelin or Shaw... Yes Plekanec is overpaid and it's unfortunate but his cap hit is not the reason the Habs can't win games or score goals... Lots of passengers on this team and most of them don't have Plekanec's resume...
Eller is a great example actually, picked high in the 1st round and was gonna be a sniper but in all reality he's a bum and always has been, much younger and bigger than Plekanec but nowhere near the player he's been |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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If such a player was available the 6 million needed would fall on Desharnais' cap hit or Emelin or Shaw... Yes Plekanec is overpaid and it's unfortunate but his cap hit is not the reason the Habs can't win games or score goals... Lots of passengers on this team and most of them don't have Plekanec's resume...
Eller is a great example actually, picked high in the 1st round and was gonna be a sniper but in all reality he's a bum and always has been, much younger and bigger than Plekanec but nowhere near the player he's been - obie
So Plekanec is not scoring but it's not his fault the habs are not scoring goals and winning?
logical |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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So Plekanec is not scoring but it's not his fault the habs are not scoring goals and winning?
logical - Fredobbface
Of course it would help if he had a few more goals but what kind of numbers did you expect from him coming into this season?
And I'm not saying he carries no blame whatsoever and unfortunately he has the biggest cap hit of any forward on the team and that in itself carries a lot of weight but Shaw, Desharnais, Emelin, Petry, Gallagher and others have pretty big cap hits that they're not living up too and are all in their prime years |
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blarneylad
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Tim , ON Joined: 02.07.2007
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Pateryn for a 4th liner with character coming soon |
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blarneylad
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Tim , ON Joined: 02.07.2007
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"I believe with a healthy Carey Price we're not sitting here today" - Marc Bergevin. |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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"I believe with a healthy Carey Price we're not sitting here today" - Marc Bergevin. - blarneylad
was that from last year or last week? |
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blarneylad
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Tim , ON Joined: 02.07.2007
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was that from last year or last week? - fidopro
last year |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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"I believe with a healthy Carey Price we're not sitting here today" - Marc Bergevin. - blarneylad
They're not quite there yet... Well on their way mind you |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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They're not quite there yet... Well on their way mind you - obie
it's eery how similar this season has been to last season |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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it's eery how similar this season has been to last season - DoubleDown
Only difference is Price is healthy, makes it even more alarming |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Only difference is Price is healthy, makes it even more alarming - obie
Now everybody's looking for someone/something to blame. |
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