I remember thinking the same thing in 86...thought they were tired, beat up. Different times for sure and Larry was there....young Svoboda, (frank)ing clown shoes Roy. Point is...it just doesn't matter. Need more American teams to generate $ and now its so diluted who gives (frank)? Meh gotta have a generational player like Mathews? The poop they have going on right now might be as close as they get. So trade for Shattenkirk, costs more than the new russian but might help balance things
- Pie

Yup.

Also, I'd bet tonight with the exemption of fido, mash, you, and me the rest in here we're going to dances with their dad in '86..

Very nice to hear.

Happy for you

Can you play the "I don't understand you card"?
- pete26

Less and less.
My Spanish has gotten pretty good and she's taking French courses now.
Over a year and not one argument, spend most of our time laughing together.

Yup.

Also, I'd bet tonight with the exemption of fido, mash, you, and me the rest in here we're going to dances with their dad in '86..
- pete26

I worry that fido might be mine...the negligence anger is rife

I remember thinking the same thing in 86...thought they were tired, beat up. Different times for sure and Larry was there....young Svoboda, (frank)ing clown shoes Roy. Point is...it just doesn't matter. Need more American teams to generate $ and now its so diluted who gives (frank)? Meh gotta have a generational player like Mathews? The poop they have going on right now might be as close as they get. So trade for Shattenkirk, costs more than the new russian but might help balance things
- Pie

You honestly think Shattenkirk would make a difference right now?

You honestly think Shattenkirk would make a difference right now?
- obie

doesn't he play on the right side?

doesn't he play on the right side?
- fidopro

He sure does

You honestly think Shattenkirk would make a difference right now?
- obie

the (frank) do I know? Why not? go balls deep or sell. Those are the choices these days, pparently.

He sure does
- obie

so why would MB trade for him?
he should target Brodie in CGY, much better option imo

Less and less.
My Spanish has gotten pretty good and she's taking French courses now.
Over a year and not one argument, spend most of our time laughing together.
- hunglikeapuck

Stop it with the Spanish.

You need that card..badly..

the (frank) do I know? Why not? go balls deep or sell. Those are the choices these days, pparently.
- Pie

Shattenkirk is not very good in his own end...

He would most certainly help the PP

I really don't know what's going on with this team, I can't tell if they're really this bad anymore, they haven't been good in quite some time so it's hard to imagine them just flipping the switch on anytime soon so at this point if I'm Bergevin, I'm not really moving any young assets or draft picks

so why would MB trade for him?
he should target Brodie in CGY, much better option imo
- fidopro

Sure but I'm not so sure Brodie is available

And him playing the right side wouldn't be a problem if it's just as a rental, signing him long term might cause issues down the road...

Shattenkirk is not very good in his own end...

He would most certainly help the PP

I really don't know what's going on with this team, I can't tell if they're really this bad anymore, they haven't been good in quite some time so it's hard to imagine them just flipping the switch on anytime soon so at this point if I'm Bergevin, I'm not really moving any young assets or draft picks
- obie

it's very simple. they don't have enough top6 forwards. if you count Gallagher, he's having a bad season, injured. and Galchenyuk is totally lost, also injured.
so they are left with Pax and Radulov. that's it. like someone said earlier, very easy to defend againts.

now, what option do they have to get some help up front?

not that many...

Sure but I'm not so sure Brodie is available

And him playing the right side wouldn't be a problem if it's just as a rental, signing him long term might cause issues down the road...
- obie

every man has his 'price'

Shattenkirk is not very good in his own end...

He would most certainly help the PP

I really don't know what's going on with this team, I can't tell if they're really this bad anymore, they haven't been good in quite some time so it's hard to imagine them just flipping the switch on anytime soon so at this point if I'm Bergevin, I'm not really moving any young assets or draft picks
- obie

I feel like the problem with this team is mental more than anything which is even more frustrating. Otherwise I don't understand how a roster with some talent can be SO (frank)ing bad.

it's very simple. they don't have enough top6 forwards. if you count Gallagher, he's having a bad season, injured. and Galchenyuk is totally lost, also injured.
so they are left with Pax and Radulov. that's it. like someone said earlier, very easy to defend againts.

now, what option do they have to get some help up front?

not that many...
- fidopro

they need a heavy centre.

it's very simple. they don't have enough top6 forwards. if you count Gallagher, he's having a bad season, injured. and Galchenyuk is totally lost, also injured.
so they are left with Pax and Radulov. that's it. like someone said earlier, very easy to defend againts.

now, what option do they have to get some help up front?

not that many...
- fidopro

1-0 Boston

No he doesn't and that's why he shouldn't trade any, nobody is coming in to save this team, not one player so what's the point? If this core isn't good enough I'd rather not trade parts of what could be the future core... When your house is on fire, you don't start putting up curtains!

every man has his 'price'
- fidopro

Shattenkirk is a FA and would cost a fraction of what Brodie, signed to a great deal would

1-0 Boston

No he doesn't and that's why he shouldn't trade any, nobody is coming in to save this team, not one player so what's the point? If this core isn't good enough I'd rather not trade parts of what could be the future core... When your house is on fire, you don't start putting up curtains!
- obie

oh I agree, not that he has that many top prospects to sell anyway. keep them.

they need a heavy centre.
- Pie

Couldn't agree more...But who? Who's trading one?

Shattenkirk is not very good in his own end...

He would most certainly help the PP

I really don't know what's going on with this team, I can't tell if they're really this bad anymore, they haven't been good in quite some time so it's hard to imagine them just flipping the switch on anytime soon so at this point if I'm Bergevin, I'm not really moving any young assets or draft picks
- obie

This is disingenuous...because he's better than Petry, Beaulieu and Emelin defensively

I feel like the problem with this team is mental more than anything which is even more frustrating. Otherwise I don't understand how a roster with some talent can be SO (frank)ing bad.
- apex123

Not enough talent and too many passengers

This is disingenuous...because he's better than Petry, Beaulieu and Emelin defensively
- Pie

He probably is... But is this team a Kevin Shattenkirk away from just busting out?

He probably is... But is this team a Kevin Shattenkirk away from just busting out?
- obie

yes. yes they are.

yes. yes they are.
- Pie

You know what? Maybe... Now what are you willing to bet on it? Juulsen and a 1st?

You know what? Maybe... Now what are you willing to bet on it? Juulsen and a 1st?
- obie

and here's MARChand ever dangerous against muZZin...misses the NET