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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 23 @ 12:02 PM ET
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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:03 PM ET
I heard Murray is making ZERO offers


Just telling the other teams he is open for business and waiting for gm's to contact him with offers


nothing has wowed him


I heard the same thing about 10 days before the deadline last season, mike weber was caps contacting murray

- homiedclown

pretty sound approach, imo...

he has two d-men that teams would be interested in...that should suffice for this season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:03 PM ET
For someone that doesn't watch a lot of Kings hockey, how good is Muzzin?

I know he is good but really is he a top pairing guy is what I am asking.

- Stripes77

honestly, they are both decent

I think one would solve the problem with risto, and push mccabe to second pair


it's all about the cost to get one of them
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 23 @ 12:03 PM ET
For someone that doesn't watch a lot of Kings hockey, how good is Muzzin?

I know he is good but really is he a top pairing guy is what I am asking.

- Stripes77



Probably, they're not as good as last year or year before but at that cap hit its definitely a trade id do.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
honestly, they are both decent

I think one would solve the problem with risto, and push mccabe to second pair


it's all about the cost to get one of them

- homiedclown



probably not going to be cheering on the streets or whatever but I think its a deal you have to do.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 23 @ 12:05 PM ET
that might be too much for a player whom a defensively challenged oilers team traded away
- Michael Pachla

If all goes well, we'd be more like the Pens than the Oilers of a few years ago
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
I think its fair, Muzzin is still pretty good. Like team canada good
- Sabresfan-365


didn't realize that so I looked it up... from Helene Elliot la times:

Kings defenseman Jake Muzzin was a surprise addition to Team Canada, beating out 2013 Norris trophy winner P.K. Subban of Montreal and Stanley Cup finalist Kris Letang of Pittsburgh. Muzzin’s familiarity with teammate and defense partner Drew Doughty, who previously was named to the 23-man roster, was a key factor in Canada’s decision to include him while greatly changing a cast that won Olympic gold at Sochi in 2014.

take it for what it's worth
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
If all goes well, we'd be more like the Pens than the Oilers of a few years ago
- sbroads24



That's a ton of coin for a hope and a prayer.

He's challenged in his own end.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
WTF is that?

Yogurt jizz?

- dadeadhead


dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
didn't realize that so I looked it up... from Helene Elliot la times:

Kings defenseman Jake Muzzin was a surprise addition to Team Canada, beating out 2013 Norris trophy winner P.K. Subban of Montreal and Stanley Cup finalist Kris Letang of Pittsburgh. Muzzin’s familiarity with teammate and defense partner Drew Doughty, who previously was named to the 23-man roster, was a key factor in Canada’s decision to include him while greatly changing a cast that won Olympic gold at Sochi in 2014.

take it for what it's worth

- Michael Pachla



Martinez is 29 going on 30.
Muzzin just turned 28.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 23 @ 12:08 PM ET
At 5 per you'd be on him like you are Bogo.

Not a shot at you just saying. You'd hate him at that price.

- dadeadhead

I don't know. I agree he's being propped up but the plan is to have a strong top 9 like the Pens have pretty soon.

Lockout year he had 27 points in 48 games. Then 33 and 31 on the awful EDM teams.

He brings the offense we lack outside Risto/Franson
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:08 PM ET
probably not going to be cheering on the streets or whatever but I think its a deal you have to do.
- Sabresfan-365

sabres don't need to do anything this year...they can sit back, take offers and see what unfolds in the off season...

jake muzzin or alex Martinez won't turn this defense around...it might help but it would be more than offset by the loss of the team's leading goal scorer, imo
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:08 PM ET

- GERBE!!!75PTS



You're dating the wrong gal.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
Martinez is 29 going on 30.
Muzzin just turned 28.

- dadeadhead


that too
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
I don't know. I agree he's being propped up but the plan is to have a strong top 9 like the Pens have pretty soon.

Lockout year he had 27 points in 48 games. Then 33 and 31 on the awful EDM teams.

He brings the offense we lack outside Risto/Franson

- sbroads24



He's a mess in his own end though.

Always has been.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
probably not going to be cheering on the streets or whatever but I think its a deal you have to do.
- Sabresfan-365

I heard there are 2 offers out there for murray to chew on

one involves franson and kane

one involves franson, roster player (my guess is foligno or gus) and picks/prospects


again, this was the kings contacted murray
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
You're dating the wrong gal.
- dadeadhead

does she have an adams apple?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:10 PM ET
that too
- Michael Pachla



Prob have a solid 4 years left out of Muzzin, Martinez prob not so much.
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 23 @ 12:10 PM ET
Martinez is 29 going on 30.
Muzzin just turned 28.

- dadeadhead

Wow they have 10.750 mill tied up for past 2020 in brown and gaborik
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
I heard there are 2 offers out there for murray to chew on

one involves franson and kane

one involves franson, roster player (my guess is foligno or gus) and picks/prospects


again, this was the kings contacted murray

- homiedclown

i'll take a second rounder for Franson and leave it at that
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
He's a mess in his own end though.

Always has been.

- dadeadhead

Yeah, I don't think we can find a guy without flaws in FA though.

And people are taking Kane/Reinhart etc off the table.

Gotta get some puck movers somewhere
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:12 PM ET
does she have an adams apple?
- homiedclown



Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 12:12 PM ET
Prob have a solid 4 years left out of Muzzin, Martinez prob not so much.
- dadeadhead

if I were murray, upper 20's is a little too high for where my team is at this stage of the game
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
This year, I'm using the Sabres 1st round pick for a real defenseman that fits in with the rebuild.
- TheSabresTaco


It depends where we pick
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
It depends where we pick
- GERBE!!!75PTS

if were in the top 8 you gotta take best available
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