I just saw that

http://sonsofpenn.com/mic...-with-radko-gudas-sister/
- mayorofangrytown

She look 30 years younger than Radko

Sooo idk if Leight but Neuvy is having a baby with Gudas's sister.
- arichardson22

Always knew Neuvirth was a fornicator

Now we know why the club is going to move on from Mason.

He put his seed into the wrong woman.

Sooooo Oskar Lindblom and his .91 ppg in 46 games, possible league mvp season is not enough to crack Button's top 50 prospects outside the NHL but Erickson Ek(#13) at .65 ppg and Rasmus Asplund (#34) at .51 ppg in the same league are firmly entrenched on the list.

Good job Button

Sooooo Oskar Lindblom and his .91 ppg in 46 games, possible league mvp season is not enough to crack Button's top 50 prospects outside the NHL but Erickson Ek(#13) at .65 ppg and Rasmus Asplund (#34) at .51 ppg in the same league are firmly entrenched on the list.

Good job Button
- Just5

There is so much bad about that list from top to bottom. Probably two dozen WTFs. Button is solid enough at doing draft prospect rankings. His top organizational prospect rankings are usually a mess. He puts way too much stock in recency bias and kind of just forgets guys who he hasn't seen in awhile.

There is so much bad about that list from top to bottom. Probably two dozen WTFs. Button is solid enough at doing draft prospect rankings. His top organizational prospect rankings are usually a mess. He puts way too much stock in recency bias and kind of just forgets guys who he hasn't seen in awhile.
- Mononoke

I guess its a lot to keep track of. But it's also his job. The freaking kid might win MVP

This is going to be the third baby born out of wedlock for this team this year. These freewheeling degenerates need a serious lesson in morality.

Just look at Chris VandeVelde, who RELIABLY had a child with his wife a few months ago. That's the example that needs to be set.

I guess its a lot to keep track of. But it's also his job. The freaking kid might win MVP
- Just5

He scouts North American junior leagues on weekends and watches top tournaments. He isn't tuning into the AHL or SHL with regularity, I would reckon. I like his draft rankings though.

Mason won't be getting a raise
- YuenglingJagr

Why not? I think you just staked the odds against yourself by giving an answer without thinking it through.

Let's say Mason signs a Michael Del Zotto like deal that brought him here at 1.5 million for one year with the Black Hawks or an above average team. All he has to do is play with behind an above average defense and he gets his raise in a year. I don't think this is gonna happen. I think teams will take him now and give him a modest raise. Is it any wonder why Mason looks average at best since Kimmo Timonen and Brayden Coburn made their exits? Mason plays behind garbage right now. Mason isn't losing us games, the team in front of him is. Regardless of what's happened this season, Steve Mason has resurrected his career in the last five years since playing in Columbus. He's not elite. He never was but he's a starter.

If we sign Neuvirth over Mason, we're taking another Martin Biron chance, who was a back up in Buffalo along time.

Yes would be nice. They say to Mason " hey we are going with Neuvirth to show he can play consistently, so that we can up his trade value. Then you will ride out the rest of the season starting.'
- johm12

I don't even know how to answer this. Mason has been our starter for five years. He's knocking on the door of third most wins in Flyers franchise history if I'm not mistaken. I don't think he simply forgot how to play nightly. He started 8 of the 10 wins in the streak and most of the games around it while Neuvirth was hurt. If we boot Mason, who do we replace him with?

Why not? I think you just staked the odds against yourself by giving an answer without thinking it through.

Let's say Mason signs a Michael Del Zotto like deal that brought him here at 1.5 million for one year with the Black Hawks or an above average team. All he has to do is play with behind an above average defense and he gets his raise in a year. I don't think this is gonna happen. I think teams will take him now and give him a modest raise. Is it any wonder why Mason looks average at best since Kimmo Timonen and Brayden Coburn made their exits? Mason plays behind garbage right now. Mason isn't losing us games, the team in front of him is. Regardless of what's happened this season, Steve Mason has resurrected his career in the last five years since playing in Columbus. He's not elite. He never was but he's a starter.

If we sign Neuvirth over Mason, we're taking another Martin Biron chance, who was a back up in Buffalo along time.
- SuperSchennBros

I have no problem bringing him back 2 years 7 million. Mason/Stolie

What a terrible day. Just glad the Flyers aren't playing

I have no problem bringing him back 2 years 7 million. Mason/Stolie
- Just5

Well I don't believe Steve Mason is a 7 Million Dollar Goalie but I do think he would do a better job at earning his pay if he was making Andrew MacDonald money.

My thought process is this. You have two pending UFA goaltender. Hextall has to trade one and ride out the other for the remainder of the season. Regardless of how he feels about certain guys, we're rebuilding. Bellemare could be his neighbor and best friend, I don't care. He's above 30. Trade him. Let Scott Laughton play 7 minutes a night in his place. Get as much as you can for the garbage we're not resigning anyway.

What a terrible day. Just glad the Flyers aren't playing
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm here if you need to talk about it

Well I don't believe Steve Mason is a 7 Million Dollar Goalie but I do think he would do a better job at earning his pay if he was making Andrew MacDonald money.

My thought process is this. You have two pending UFA goaltender. Hextall has to trade one and ride out the other for the remainder of the season. Regardless of how he feels about certain guys, we're rebuilding. Bellemare could be his neighbor and best friend, I don't care. He's above 30. Trade him. Let Scott Laughton play 7 minutes a night in his place. Get as much as you can for the garbage we're not resigning anyway.
- SuperSchennBros

I meant Mason at 3.5 per....but I'd pay him up to 5, whatever it doesn't matter much. I believe Hexy said Bellemare is his son or something so good luck with that

I'm here if you need to talk about it
- Mononoke

It's just idiotic. I don't understand how you can look at Embiid and just assume he'll be healthy for years to come.

It's just idiotic. I don't understand how you can look at Embiid and just assume he'll be healthy for years to come.
- PhillySportsGuy

When you're a Man of Action, the only course to take is action.

Let's forget we traded Nerlens for 2 2nds essentially, the same price as Ersan. Let's forget we have to look at Okafor's slug ass for who knows how long (at least that (frank)er will help with the tank). Let's forget Colangelo the Nepotist (frank)ed this up as he was always going to do and as he's always done. Let's forget Hinkie would have done a deal for a big a lot sooner and probably gotten fair or better value. Let's forget they played him with Embiid to experiment for all of 8 minutes, but gave Embiid-Okafor way too much time together. Would you have paid Nerlens $20 mil per?

When you're a Man of Action, the only course to take is action.

Let's forget we traded Nerlens for 2 2nds essentially, the same price as Ersan. Let's forget we have to look at Okafor's slug ass for who knows how long (at least that (frank)er will help with the tank). Let's forget Colangelo the Nepotist (frank)ed this up as he was always going to do and as he's always done. Let's forget Hinkie would have done a deal for a big a lot sooner and probably gotten fair or better value. Let's forget they played him with Embiid to experiment for all of 8 minutes, but gave Embiid-Okafor way too much time together. Would you have paid Nerlens $20 mil per?
- Mononoke

Yes.

1. Nerlens is 22, so it's reasonable to expect him to get better or, at the very least, continue to be effective.

2. A guy like Noel is a valuable player around the league. Teams need guys who can defend the rim, switch on PnRs and rim run on offense. That's basically all DeAndre Jordan does and he's every bit worth a max deal.

3. The Sixers have a poopload of picks over the next few years. Even if they overpay him by a little, they can always just include one of those picks in order to move him. It's not ideal, but it's not like you'll be stuck with an immovable contract.

4. It is imperative that the Sixers have a defensive anchor if they want to contend. Noel offered the necessary insurance if Embiid weren't ever able to get healthy. The Sixers could win a title with Noel at center. A core of Noel, Simmons, Saric and all of the first round picks/cap space is still a team with tremendous upside. What this trade did was, essentially, lower the floor for what this team could become.

5. Unlike the NHL, the NBA salary cap increases each season by a significant amount, so $20M now won't be worth the same in 2-4 years. Several teams are going to start running ads on their jerseys soon as well, which will also increase cap space. An average NBA starter is worth $15M right now.

6. The Sixers could have offered Noel a deescalating contract where they pay him more up front and less on the back end. That makes the deal more appealing to teams looking to trade for him. It's also appealing to Noel because he gets his money earlier.

7. And finally, if the best return was two 2nds and a wing who can't shoot, then your best option was extending him anyway!

It's just idiotic. I don't understand how you can look at Embiid and just assume he'll be healthy for years to come.
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah this one really surprised me. i dont follow the nba as closely as you guys but i was thrown off a good bit. just dont see the point.

do you still think okafor would potentially be moved now? or does this solidify his spot in the organization? i know they are very different players but i just cant see the rationale in choosing okafor over noel

Yes.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah I was just playing Devil's advocate. It was a complete botch job.

All I can think of about Gudas's sister and Neuvy is this. Kramer would probably be Jake in this scenario.




Probably have to re-post this tomorrow for Scoob's benefit.

yeah this one really surprised me. i dont follow the nba as closely as you guys but i was thrown off a good bit. just dont see the point.

do you still think okafor would potentially be moved now? or does this solidify his spot in the organization? i know they are very different players but i just cant see the rationale in choosing okafor over noel
- stayinthefnnet

The longer they hold onto Okafor, the less value he'll have. When a young player struggles early on, there is a brief window when you can recoup some or all of his value. Once that player has played a couple seasons, teams look at him more as a project than an actual prospect. I'm confident Hinkie would have dealt Okafor at last year's deadline if he had the chance. Probably could have gotten a high first rounder. It's why he dealt MCW when he did. That was the window. MCW is worthless now.

In the end, getting value for Okafor means nothing. Okafor could fall off the face of the earth and it wouldn't change much for the team if they kept Noel. The whole point of The Process was laying out many paths to finding talent. Okafor was just a path that led nowhere. When you consistently pick in the top 5, you're bound to find a bust.

All I can think of about Gudas's sister and Neuvy is this. Kramer would probably be Jake in this scenario.




Probably have to re-post this tomorrow for Scoob's benefit.
- Mononoke

The longer they hold onto Okafor, the less value he'll have. When a young player struggles early on, there is a brief window when you can recoup some or all of his value. Once that player has played a couple seasons, teams look at him more as a project than an actual prospect. I'm confident Hinkie would have dealt Okafor at last year's deadline if he had the chance. Probably could have gotten a high first rounder. It's why he dealt MCW when he did. That was the window. MCW is worthless now.

In the end, getting value for Okafor means nothing. Okafor could fall off the face of the earth and it wouldn't change much for the team if they kept Noel. The whole point of The Process was laying out many paths to finding talent. Okafor was just a path that led nowhere. When you consistently pick in the top 5, you're bound to find a bust.
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah i get all of that. i just dont get why this was the route. did they make a conscious choice to stick with okafor in a one or the other situation? i just dont see stylistically how embiid and okafor fit on the floor at the same time. I could have seen embiid and noel though due to the latters range on the wing. and noel excels without the ball whereas okafor is virtually useless without it.

There is so much bad about that list from top to bottom. Probably two dozen WTFs. Button is solid enough at doing draft prospect rankings. His top organizational prospect rankings are usually a mess. He puts way too much stock in recency bias and kind of just forgets guys who he hasn't seen in awhile.
- Mononoke

Yeah, I swear he stops giving a (frank) once guys gets drafted and then randomly remembers some of them at tournaments/games he watches.


Even his early season draft rankings are a mess, but right around mid-season and by the draft, his draft rankings are usually pretty good.