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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
Yeah. The odds a mid to late second round pick being a contributor at the NHL level aren't high. It's essentially a lottery ticket.
- PLindbergh31



I mean I know people think reclamation project but I think it's the same odds as a late 2nd or 3rd rounder working out.

LIke could you get a Stefan Matteau from Montreal for Streit instead of a late 2dn rounder or 3rd rounder.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
Averaging under 2 goals a game over the last 30 games. Never thought I'd see an NHL team pull that off.

Edit: The Avalanche are averaging 1.96 goals per game on the season.
To give some prospective how bad the Flyers have been they are averaging 1.76 over the last 30 games. Unbelievable.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
I mean I know people think reclamation project but I think it's the same odds as a late 2nd or 3rd rounder working out.

LIke could you get a Stefan Matteau from Montreal for Streit instead of a late 2dn rounder or 3rd rounder.

- J35Bacher


I'd trade Wiese and MacDonald for Stefan Matteau Sr.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 23 @ 12:10 PM ET
Or how you stay perpetually bad.
- bmeltzer

Yup. As someone pointed out the other day, if Edmonton doesn't get lucky and win the McDavid sweepstakes, where are they right now? Most likely they are on the outside looking in for umpteenth time. Tanking, IMO, is not the answer.

I'd just move PEB, Del Zotto, Streit and a goalie, and get a generic backup along with the picks coming back. You could then just bring up Hagg which would give the Flyers 7 D and would still leave the Phantoms plenty of D for their stretch run. Up front, you could bring up Laughton and, once Konecny returns (assuming Weal is back shortly), you'd have a full complement of 14 forwards and the Phantoms would still have plenty for their stretch run.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:17 PM ET
member when the Flyers had a 10 game winning streak and everything was fine.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Not to be annoying but why the shout out to the Delco Pee Wees? Obviously there's some connection I'm missing.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
Assumes the picks we get are for this draft. I would be okay with moving back into the first round to select someone they want...I know someone else that basically thinks the back end of the first round isn't much different than the second. I am not opposed to either scenario as we are still 4 months away from the draft. I want picks either as ammo or lottery tickets no matter what
- YuenglingJagr


Yeah I'm not opposed to either scenario as well. Hell moving back last year worked out pretty nicely imo. But back to back years with a plethora of picks so I'm curious to see how this draft plays out. Long ways to go.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
Averaging under 2 goals a game over the last 30 games. Never thought I'd see an NHL team pull that off.

Edit: The Avalanche are averaging 1.96 goals per game on the season.
To give some prospective how bad the Flyers have been they are averaging 1.76 over the last 30 games. Unbelievable.

- PLindbergh31



with the great Duchene and Landeskog (also Mackinnon)......unpossible
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
I know picks are sexy but I actually wouldn't mind trying to finding a young player who maybe needs a change in return. Maybe they have fallen out of favor but I wouldn't mind someone like that over a late 2nd rounder if possible.
- J35Bacher


Curtis lazar comes to mind
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
member when the Flyers had a 10 game winning streak and everything was fine.
- Streit2ThePoint


And we were ranked above the penguins in the power rankings? I member
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
with the great Duchene and Landeskog (also Mackinnon)......unpossible
- nastyflyergirl


They are on pace for what 55-60 points? Awful team.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
ttt

and big thanks to whoever made the deletion

- Scoob


You're welcome.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
Dimitri FilipovicVerified account‏@DimFilipovic 2h2 hours ago
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Only the Flyers have made more picks over the past three drafts and no one currently holds more of 'em than they do this year.

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
Step 1: Sell Streit and Del Zotto
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Playoffs

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
member when the Flyers had a 10 game winning streak and everything was fine.
- Streit2ThePoint


Ah! I member!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
member when the Flyers had a 10 game winning streak and everything was fine.
- Streit2ThePoint

it feels like that was a hundred years ago
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
Dimitri FilipovicVerified account‏@DimFilipovic 2h2 hours ago
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Only the Flyers have made more picks over the past three drafts and no one currently holds more of 'em than they do this year.


- JFlyers00

And hopefully we can add some more over the next couple of days
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
it feels like that was a hundred years ago
- BulliesPhan87


Yeah it really doesn't even feel like it happened this season
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
with the great Duchene and Landeskog (also Mackinnon)......unpossible
- nastyflyergirl


Avs fans think they're getting a package of Coots, Sanheim/Morin, and a pick for one of those two.... Kill me if that happens.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
Yeah it really doesn't even feel like it happened this season
- arichardson22

i cant feel feelings anymore
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
Curtis lazar comes to mind
- Just5


Him too.

I would explore guys like that over later picks if possible. They both probably have the same chance of becoming NHL regulars.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
Matthews, McDavid, and Crosby would look good in Flyers uniforms.

Get er done Hexer
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
Neuvirth for the outdoor game.

Flyers moving on without Mason?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 12:56 PM ET
Sometimes I wonder how much dealing Hexy is going to do at the deadline. I understand if some deals are there he will make them, but I also get the feeling he doesn't want to have to blow up what is a very competitive Phantoms team in order to get some AHL guys NHL ice time in what is fast becoming a lost season.
- MBFlyerfan

He should leave the ahl guys alone unless he gets blown away. Just move salary that is weighing down the payroll.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 23 @ 12:59 PM ET
Dimitri FilipovicVerified account‏@DimFilipovic 2h2 hours ago
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Only the Flyers have made more picks over the past three drafts and no one currently holds more of 'em than they do this year.


- JFlyers00



more so how many picks in the first 2-3 rounds.
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