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SuperSchennBros
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Feb 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Pierre Lebrun agree's over on TSN.ca that Mark Streit is indeed a wanted guy.....he even brings up Delzotto. Hopefully Hextall is able to get something in the ways of picks.
- landros 2


The draft picks would be great but Hextall shouldn't ignore setting up for next season or even making a run for the playoffs this season. I'm not at all saying we should be buyers but their are project players who the Flyers could grab on the cheap to help us moving forward. Also if the Flyers choose to take the draft picks for our pending UFAs, this means we could be seeing Hagg or Morin in the place of Streit and Del Zotto after the deadline. Heck, maybe if Bellemare goes, Laughton can get a full time look as his replacement.

I'm not ready to move "core pieces". If you trade Giroux, who replaces him and how? If we trade Simmonds or Schenn, we score even less. I think having Raffl thought as our top line winger has hurt us more than fans think. We're way too thin of that left side and it's time to add and address these holes.

I think it's fair to say everyone will be cleaning out their closet due to the Vegas draft coming.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
@dragonoffrost

who a few days back said Gilbert was a baseline for a Schultz deal. I do wonder if he would be willing to get demoted to help with the cap hit, but I also think he probably would just rather be a scratch in the NHL. Plus he seems to be close with a lot of the other Flyers

It would be a nice move to do if he were willing. A team could bury most of his cap hit and use him as insurance if necessary.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
Sometimes I wonder how much dealing Hexy is going to do at the deadline. I understand if some deals are there he will make them, but I also get the feeling he doesn't want to have to blow up what is a very competitive Phantoms team in order to get some AHL guys NHL ice time in what is fast becoming a lost season.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Sometimes I wonder how much dealing Hexy is going to do at the deadline. I understand if some deals are there he will make them, but I also get the feeling he doesn't want to have to blow up what is a very competitive Phantoms team in order to get some AHL guys NHL ice time in what is fast becoming a lost season.
- MBFlyerfan



I agree. I think he does want the Phantoms to make a strong playoff push. They have showed they have depth. Lyon carried the load for a while with Stolarz up so I think if a goalie is moved they will be fine again if Stolarz is promoted. I also think they have plenty of defenders there so if Hagg was brought up they would be fine too.

But agree. I don't think he'll move all the Phantoms up we want to see because he does want them competitive.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
Sometimes I wonder how much dealing Hexy is going to do at the deadline. I understand if some deals are there he will make them, but I also get the feeling he doesn't want to have to blow up what is a very competitive Phantoms team in order to get some AHL guys NHL ice time in what is fast becoming a lost season.
- MBFlyerfan

As has been mentioned before, some other leagues season's will be coming to a close which could add to the depth of the Phantoms. Also, we have 8 defensemen in the NHL and at least 8 AHL defensemen. Also, also, The development of these guys (if they are perceived NHL ready) is more important than a calder cup run. They wouldn't be brought up to be scratched or sit around if the Flyers traded the players in their way. It would also allow them NHL experience before the start of next season
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
Hainsey 14 points -16 35 years old. Del Zotto should net a return at least equal if not better.
- PLindbergh31



Carolina retained 50% of the cap hit but yeah you would think MDZ would fetch more than that.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
As has been mentioned before, some other leagues season's will be coming to a close which could add to the depth of the Phantoms. Also, we have 8 defensemen in the NHL and at least 8 AHL defensemen. Also, also, The development of these guys (if they are perceived NHL ready) is more important than a calder cup run. They wouldn't be brought up to be scratched or sit around if the Flyers traded the players in their way. It would also allow them NHL experience before the start of next season
- YuenglingJagr



I would like to see Vorobyov over here getting solid minutes.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:44 AM ET
Retain 50% on Boyd Gordon and fire him into the sun
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:45 AM ET
I'll allow it
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:46 AM ET
I would like to see Vorobyov over here getting solid minutes.
- J35Bacher



and Lindblom as soon as the SEL season is over
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
So if we become sellers and deal Streit and MDZ, and possibly even Neuvy, is it fair to say we could come out with 2-3 additional picks in the 2nd or 3rd round range for the upcoming draft? If so, does anyone think it would make sense to try to acquire an additional 1st round pick with either the amount of picks we currently have with the additional picks if we become sellers? Since it is a weaker draft class perhaps the price may not be as significant. I'm thinking in the 11-20 range. Use both picks on forwards. Preferably a center with size and a scoring winger.
FlyersGrace
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Feb 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
As has been mentioned before, some other leagues season's will be coming to a close which could add to the depth of the Phantoms. Also, we have 8 defensemen in the NHL and at least 8 AHL defensemen. Also, also, The development of these guys (if they are perceived NHL ready) is more important than a calder cup run. They wouldn't be brought up to be scratched or sit around if the Flyers traded the players in their way. It would also allow them NHL experience before the start of next season
- YuenglingJagr

It's the argument between NHL experience on a losing team or creating a winning culture on the AHL one. For the end of this season I could see this get argued either way as to the benefit/detriment of player development.
Bill Meltzer
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Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:49 AM ET
Hextall has more loyalty to unproductive core players than Reuben Amaro Jr. I agree that Hextall will not get much for the pieces everyone is wiling to get rid of. But he has to understand it won't get better until you can draft real talent. And your chances for that are much better drafting very low. Trade core pieces and get real bad for a few years. That is how you get real talent.
- redcoat75


Or how you stay perpetually bad.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
As has been mentioned before, some other leagues season's will be coming to a close which could add to the depth of the Phantoms. Also, we have 8 defensemen in the NHL and at least 8 AHL defensemen. Also, also, The development of these guys (if they are perceived NHL ready) is more important than a calder cup run. They wouldn't be brought up to be scratched or sit around if the Flyers traded the players in their way. It would also allow them NHL experience before the start of next season
- YuenglingJagr

Not to mention you could just send them back down for the playoffs when the Flyers season staggers to a face plant.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
So if we become sellers and deal Streit and MDZ, and possibly even Neuvy, is it fair to say we could come out with 2-3 additional picks in the 2nd or 3rd round range for the upcoming draft? If so, does anyone think it would make sense to try to acquire an additional 1st round pick with either the amount of picks we currently have with the additional picks if we become sellers? Since it is a weaker draft class perhaps the price may not be as significant. I'm thinking in the 11-20 range. Use both picks on forwards. Preferably a center with size and a scoring winger.
- arichardson22


I doubt anyone would give up a first round pick for what the Flyers are likely selling.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:52 AM ET
Sixers trade Noel for pennies on the dollar.
Andrew Bogus and a first round pick.

So Noel and Okafor are busts.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
So if we become sellers and deal Streit and MDZ, and possibly even Neuvy, is it fair to say we could come out with 2-3 additional picks in the 2nd or 3rd round range for the upcoming draft? If so, does anyone think it would make sense to try to acquire an additional 1st round pick with either the amount of picks we currently have with the additional picks if we become sellers? Since it is a weaker draft class perhaps the price may not be as significant. I'm thinking in the 11-20 range. Use both picks on forwards. Preferably a center with size and a scoring winger.
- arichardson22


Assumes the picks we get are for this draft. I would be okay with moving back into the first round to select someone they want...I know someone else that basically thinks the back end of the first round isn't much different than the second. I am not opposed to either scenario as we are still 4 months away from the draft. I want picks either as ammo or lottery tickets no matter what
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
Sixers trade Noel for pennies on the dollar.
Andrew Bogus and a first round pick

- PLindbergh31

[flips table]
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
Voracek just hobbled off the ice. Might as well bring the Comcast Flyers pee-wees to play the Penguins Saturday.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
Voracek just hobbled off the ice. Might as well bring the Comcast Flyers pee-wees to play the Penguins Saturday.
- PLindbergh31

did he bring his sticks with him?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
I doubt anyone would give up a first round pick for what the Flyers are likely selling.
- PLindbergh31



I know picks are sexy but I actually wouldn't mind trying to finding a young player who maybe needs a change in return. Maybe they have fallen out of favor but I wouldn't mind someone like that over a late 2nd rounder if possible.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
did he bring his sticks with him?
- YuenglingJagr


No, he brought McCrossin with him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
I know picks are sexy but I actually wouldn't mind trying to finding a young player who maybe needs a change in return. Maybe they have fallen out of favor but I wouldn't mind someone like that over a late 2nd rounder if possible.
- J35Bacher


Yeah. The odds a mid to late second round pick being a contributor at the NHL level aren't high. It's essentially a lottery ticket.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Feb 23 @ 12:01 PM ET
At this moment I would like to quote the great movie Trading Places...
"GET BACK IN THERE AND SELL! SELL! SELL!"
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