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3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
Hak is longing for the day when the entire league consists of hockey playing robots. It will be called NHLWorld and all will play the game.
- BiggE



SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 24 @ 9:19 AM ET
So, it looks like 2 Shattenkirk deals have fallen through due to his refusal to negotiate an extension. According to his agent, he is insistent on testing free agency. This makes me wonder if the Blues just decide to hang on to him for the playoffs then swap his rights prior to the draft. If that is the case, it would hopefully, at least slightly, increase the value of Streit to a contender.

Thoughts?

- BiggE

Sure. Never underestimate the importance of puck moving defensemen regardless of how crap they are in their own end.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
Sure. Never underestimate the importance of puck moving defensemen regardless of how crap they are in their own end.
- SuperSchennBros

Who we talking about there?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
The deal is a (frank)ing travesty. I don't care if they had traded Okafor for a used jockstrap, it still would have made more sense than trading Noel. The Coangelos are (frank)ing clueless.
- BiggE


I would honestly like to know how fans feel about Dave Hakstol in his two seasons as bench boss of the Flyers. Most know how I feel. I like him more than Craig Berube in terms of attitude but the system it's doesn't strike me as much different from Berube's. Neither system has ever felt like a game change system like Lavy, Hitch or Torts. I've give detailed reasons why I don't think marriage is gonna last forever and not because we have a bad roster but how he chooses to use this bad roster. At times I think he makes it worse with scratches that don't make sense and combinations that don't look like they have a chance at succeeding.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 9:27 AM ET
So, it looks like 2 Shattenkirk deals have fallen through due to his refusal to negotiate an extension. According to his agent, he is insistent on testing free agency. This makes me wonder if the Blues just decide to hang on to him for the playoffs then swap his rights prior to the draft. If that is the case, it would hopefully, at least slightly, increase the value of Streit to a contender.

Thoughts?

- BiggE

I mean...it certainly cant hurt it haha
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
Who we talking about there?
- jak521

Mark Streit, which is what the post I was responding to was about....
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
So, it looks like 2 Shattenkirk deals have fallen through due to his refusal to negotiate an extension. According to his agent, he is insistent on testing free agency. This makes me wonder if the Blues just decide to hang on to him for the playoffs then swap his rights prior to the draft. If that is the case, it would hopefully, at least slightly, increase the value of Streit to a contender.

Thoughts?

- BiggE



I was thinking the same thing. I was trying to think of other dmen that might be available but Streit could be close to the top of the best available.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 24 @ 9:40 AM ET
Who would have thought I would be hoping for a absolutely horrible game against the pens tomorrow to just put the nails in the coffin here and start selling.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:44 AM ET
Mark Streit, which is what the post I was responding to was about....
- SuperSchennBros

Actually the post mentions two individuals. Thanks for clearing that up though pal.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
Who would have thought I would be hoping for a absolutely horrible game against the pens tomorrow to just put the nails in the coffin here and start selling.
- jmdodgeser4

I hope the Flyers Pens game tomorrow is a nasty hate filled high scoring game... in which we lose on a bull poop call.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 9:56 AM ET
This is going to be the third baby born out of wedlock for this team this year. These freewheeling degenerates need a serious lesson in morality.

Just look at Chris VandeVelde, who RELIABLY had a child with his wife a few months ago. That's the example that needs to be set.

- Mononoke


lol!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
right now the Flyers have the 12th worst record, so drafting 13th. 4 teams are 1 point behind the Flyers. NJ 3 points behind. top 10 pick isn't so far fetched
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
Actually the post mentions two individuals. Thanks for clearing that up though pal.
- jak521

Actually, the post clearly pointed out a pacific deal fell apart so the question was what type of attention one of our own could have. Only one of the two players are awful in their own end if you need a hint. It's pretty cut and dry.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 10:03 AM ET
All I can think of about Gudas's sister and Neuvy is this. Kramer would probably be Jake in this scenario.




Probably have to re-post this tomorrow for Scoob's benefit.

- Mononoke


LOL!!!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 10:05 AM ET
right now the Flyers have the 12th worst record, so drafting 13th. 4 teams are 1 point behind the Flyers. NJ 3 points behind. top 10 pick isn't so far fetched
- nastyflyergirl

I kinda laid it out earlier in the day yesterday...I think 9th is their best case scenario, but they have been awful at collecting points lately
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:14 AM ET
right now the Flyers have the 12th worst record, so drafting 13th. 4 teams are 1 point behind the Flyers. NJ 3 points behind. top 10 pick isn't so far fetched
- nastyflyergirl


Could have been 10th if Kings and Bolts won last night
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 24 @ 10:16 AM ET
I kinda laid it out earlier in the day yesterday...I think 9th is their best case scenario, but they have been awful at collecting points lately
- YuenglingJagr



yeah sorry i didn't see that. work got busy and I didn't end up back reading. If LA gets Quick back and Tampa gets Stamkos back I can see them passing the Flyers. Not sure about Buffalo or the Devils. the Flyers have 3 games in hand to the Jets so I doubt they pass the Flyers. Carolina is 7 back but have 4 games in hand. that said I think they are selling and highly doubt they pass the Flyers.

I'll be seriously disappointed if they don't move MDZ and Streit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 10:18 AM ET
I would honestly like to know how fans feel about Dave Hakstol in his two seasons as bench boss of the Flyers. Most know how I feel. I like him more than Craig Berube in terms of attitude but the system it's doesn't strike me as much different from Berube's. Neither system has ever felt like a game change system like Lavy, Hitch or Torts. I've give detailed reasons why I don't think marriage is gonna last forever and not because we have a bad roster but how he chooses to use this bad roster. At times I think he makes it worse with scratches that don't make sense and combinations that don't look like they have a chance at succeeding.
- SuperSchennBros



I think Hakstol is a very good coach, and it still remains to be seen how good of an NHL coach he becomes. I don't think there is such as thing as a game changing system.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:29 AM ET
Actually, the post clearly pointed out a pacific deal fell apart so the question was what type of attention one of our own could have. Only one of the two players are awful in their own end if you need a hint. It's pretty cut and dry.
- SuperSchennBros

Very dry. Almost toooo dry.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 24 @ 10:31 AM ET
yeah sorry i didn't see that. work got busy and I didn't end up back reading. If LA gets Quick back and Tampa gets Stamkos back I can see them passing the Flyers. Not sure about Buffalo or the Devils. the Flyers have 3 games in hand to the Jets so I doubt they pass the Flyers. Carolina is 7 back but have 4 games in hand. that said I think they are selling and highly doubt they pass the Flyers.

I'll be seriously disappointed if they don't move MDZ and Streit.

- nastyflyergirl

There is simply no good argument for keeping these guys if they arent going to resign them. Even still it is possible to sign them again.

I am kind of counting on at least 4 of those teams you mentioned passing the Flyers, but I also see them going on a run late in the year for no reason. Just seems like it is what they do
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:41 AM ET
There is simply no good argument for keeping these guys if they arent going to resign them. Even still it is possible to sign them again.

I am kind of counting on at least 4 of those teams you mentioned passing the Flyers, but I also see them going on a run late in the year for no reason. Just seems like it is what they do

- YuenglingJagr

Its exactly what they do...

Remember the year they drafted Morin they had that late surge where the won something like 8 of the last 10 games.. Went from like the 6th spot to the 11th spot.
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