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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:52 AM ET
.. and the mask.. I want him to start just to see the badass gear. I know a lot of people don't like the flyers in black, but I always liked them right from the older alternate version introduced in 1998. They look sharp and really don't show any stains from beer and nachos! haah
- Hextall271



I actually like Neuvirth's mask for the game Saturday. I like his setup better
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 23 @ 9:52 AM ET
Would it be absolutely insane to start next year with Lyon and Stollie with the big club?
- ClaudeFather



Really like stollie, and I'd be all for easing him in, but you can't go with that combo. I think you sign an experienced #1 (lets just say Mase) and see how it plays out. If he takes the net, then there you have it.

I'll tell you what I DO NOT honk is for us to throw big money at Bishop for example. I've read the rumours, but that is asking for trouble IMO.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 23 @ 9:53 AM ET
I actually like Neuvirth's mask for the game Saturday. I like his setup better
- J35Bacher


I saw that one too, and I do like it as well. He's prob just wearing his normal pads and blocker etc I expect..
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 23 @ 9:53 AM ET
1980 just called and disagrees.
- hockeylover


April 15, 2000 and April 12, 2012 returned that call.

Look, humans are imperfect and the occasional mistake will be made. But egregious mistakes are very rare. Video review to try to determine if a player was a millimeter offside or to review a play to try to subjectively determine if there was some kind of interference is a silly waste of time.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
I actually like Neuvirth's mask for the game Saturday. I like his setup better
- J35Bacher

I like the horizontal stripes that Neuvirth has a lot. Clearly going for the golden anniversary touches too.

I think Mason's gear will look awesome on Saturday though. I like Mase's stadium series get up more
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Feb 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
Ready to sell G after a struggling for half a season? That's the leash he gets? Talk about fair weather fans. SMH

Do you remember what he did last year to put the team in playoffs? I do.

How many times has he admitted he was hurt during the season? Never.

I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt for another season.

And even if you do trade him, you don't trade the heart and soul of your team to the Avs so he can rot away on a rebuilding team for rest of his career. What would that say about your organization to other players? The Flyers just don't do that. He would go to a playoff team IMO.

- Richard_wilderness



Agree with you 100% on the lack of loyalty to Giroux. However, he does have a NMC, so he can choose where he wants to go if it comes to that.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
So did Neuvy
- dragonoffrost


I did not know that. He hasn't worn it in a game yet, has he?

edit: I did notice he had gold emblems on his mask last night. Is that for the stadium game?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
April 15, 2000 and April 12, 2012 returned that call.

Look, humans are imperfect and the occasional mistake will be made. But egregious mistakes are very rare. Video review to try to determine if a player was a millimeter offside or to review a play to try to subjectively determine if there was some kind of interference is a silly waste of time.

- Scoob



And now they are looking to change the off sides rule to allow for your skate to be off the ice. So how much review should be needed for that now.

FOr as fast as the game is they really don't make a lot of bad calls
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Feb 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
This team is still two years out and with the expectation that this draft year is supposed to be down, I think you need more picks than the 10 in an effort to hit some gold...

With that in mind here is what I would expect Hexy to look at...

Streit trade for prospect or picks and we retain some salary
MDZ for pick
AMac if there is interest, again, he has not been horrible, but at 5M a year he is really only a 5/6 making 2-4 money..

look at bringing up all or a combination of Haag, morin and Sanheim for a run at the playoff spot...and the real goal is build chemistry before the offseason.

At goalie I would look to trade mason or Neuvy...you know they are not keeping both if either and if Hak is going with Neuvy, Mase seems like the odd guy out..Stolarz seems ready for a shot, and it looks like there will be plenty off goalies in the market during the offseason if you need a veteran around...

Forwards are tough...some of the young guys are hurt so it makes it tough to bring some of the farm guys up...so right now it is a waiting game...I don't think you move G as some have suggested, I think he is hurt and this team just doesn't roll 4 lines so he is frustrated...That Wilson line in the 1st period showed how far our 3rd and 4th lines are as the they created chances and played keep away from our second line...that is what hurts...the 3rd and 4th line...

oh, and I would make Manning work all offseason on his outlets...he is a turnover machine and if he can sort that out he would be a trusted 5/6 guy around the other young D men...

this team is just not there, they are a bubble team for the next two years until the young guys that Hexy and company have drafted mature...trust the process...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
"Showcasing" is an interesting choice of word
- PhillySportsGuy


It's like winning a Geo Metro in the showcase showdown
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:56 AM ET
I saw that one too, and I do like it as well. He's prob just wearing his normal pads and blocker etc I expect..
- Hextall271


He has black pads also recently I saw somewhere
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
Agree with you 100% on the lack of loyalty to Giroux. However, he does have a NMC, so he can choose where he wants to go if it comes to that.
- Baxter27



Can I ask what loyalty has to do with any of it?

He is compensated very well by the Flyers and it is a business. The Flyers best interest should be first and foremost. Not showing loyalty to Giroux.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
Streit trade for prospect or picks and we retain some salary
MDZ for pick
AMac if there is interest, again, he has not been horrible, but at 5M a year he is really only a 5/6 making 2-4 money..


but the Flyers should at least attempt to retain all the way up to 50% on any trade they make in the hopes that it increases the return. no reason not to at all
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
He has black pads also recently I saw somewhere
- dragonoffrost


I'll have to check that out.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Feb 23 @ 9:58 AM ET
I agree YuenglingJagr, I think 50% is fair to maximize the return
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 23 @ 9:59 AM ET
"Reach out and call,

some team's GM.

Make this team a better team,

if you can..."

Everybody sing along!!!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:01 AM ET
This trade Giroux argument is so stupid. So stupid
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
Streit to Montreal with 50% retention, and throw in Bellemare cause they love French speakers up there. Hextall will miss his adopted son, but can bring him back in free agency.

We get back Desharnais and a 2nd rounder.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:03 AM ET
I like the horizontal stripes that Neuvirth has a lot. Clearly going for the golden anniversary touches too.

I think Mason's gear will look awesome on Saturday though. I like Mase's stadium series get up more

- YuenglingJagr


like Mase's black matte mask with a simpler design. Gonna look bad ass as he swims on what's left of the ice at Heinz field.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
This trade Giroux argument is so stupid. So stupid
- PhillySportsGuy


It is. He can't possibly be any worse. I think he'll rebound next year a bit
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
This trade Giroux argument is so stupid. So stupid
- PhillySportsGuy


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
so did some research on who pays for pads and found this gem about goalie equipment

Gear: Vaughn Epic Double Cup w/ player cup underneath
Editor’s note: I got the first question in because I just had to clarify this one – you probably read it correctly – 3 cups! Mike replied, “Almost every pro goalie uses a regular cup or jock underneath a goalie cup. It’s not worth taking the chance with how hard these guys shoot.”
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
This trade Giroux argument is so stupid. So stupid
- PhillySportsGuy

This guy is legit as they come I swear.


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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
Can I ask what loyalty has to do with any of it?

He is compensated very well by the Flyers and it is a business. The Flyers best interest should be first and foremost. Not showing loyalty to Giroux.

- J35Bacher


I get that Hextall should do whatever's best for the Flyers and agree with that.

My comment more has to do with how quickly the fans of turned on him. It's not even about trading him for some people anymore. It's about exiling him at the risk of him being some massive albatross.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:09 AM ET

- Streit2ThePoint


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