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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
We are just lucky the Jets picked Laine over Matthews
- senstroll



I like the 2 way center, over a high scoring winger.. Laine is not near the level defensively.

It is the Sid / OV thing again..
mcleafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.01.2013

Feb 23 @ 8:32 AM ET
I like the 2 way center, over a high scoring winger.. Laine is not near the level defensively.

It is the Sid / OV thing again..

- bixll

Here's the question, who has the better chance of being (at least closest to) the equal:

Matthews to Sid

Or

Laine to Ovi
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
Here's the question, who has the better chance of being (at least closest to) the equal:

Matthews to Sid

Or

Laine to Ovi

- mcleafs



My opinion only,,,,, Laine has a tremendous shot. He may have a better shot than OV. He also has Scheifele as his center.

But, Matthews has the 200 ft game and has scoring talent as well. Top centers are hard to find, glad the Leafs have Matthews.
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:51 AM ET
Here's the question, who has the better chance of being (at least closest to) the equal:

Matthews to Sid

Or

Laine to Ovi

- mcleafs

IMO, neither
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Feb 23 @ 8:57 AM ET
last years goalies lending a hand thank you Bernier and Reimer
- Popcorn Kid



Can't believe they didn't start Gibson after Bernier let in 3 goals on 2 shots last game. (frank)ed up my pool.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:58 AM ET
Here's the question, who has the better chance of being (at least closest to) the equal:

Matthews to Sid

Or

Laine to Ovi

- mcleafs


Hard to say

but I dont see Ovechkin as the comparable for Laine..at least not now.

Ovechkin gets a ton of shots.. as a 20yo Rookie he had 425 shots (5.25 game)
Laine is getting only 2.75...on 19.9% shooting. Thats a crazy high shooting %

Laine is more in line with Stamkos or Kovalchuk, both also started out as 18yo. and have high career sh%
Actually Kovalchuk is a close comparable..similar shot rates/goals as a rookie
Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Feb 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMUhQLYnY9M

you're welcome
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
Can't believe they didn't start Gibson after Bernier let in 3 goals on 2 shots last game. (frank)ed up my pool.
- annoyed

My fantasy pool said he was injured DTD and wouldn't get the start. Explains why Mandela was in Net.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 23 @ 9:29 AM ET
Kovalchuk was several tiers above him as a skater and way more dynamic.

Stamkos is probably the closest in regards to how some of his goals are scored but he has more of a net presence. Laine scores most of his goals from a greater distance, that seems way less sustainable but it's way more impressive.

I don't even know the closest comparable. Brett Hull? Hull was a volume shooter too though with several 300+ shot seasons. I'm not sure he's even a half decent comparison.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 23 @ 9:36 AM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMUhQLYnY9M

you're welcome

- Leaffan8113

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 23 @ 9:38 AM ET
My fantasy pool said he was injured DTD and wouldn't get the start. Explains why Mandela was in Net.
- PlatosRepucklic


ya...I heard that too

(frank)
willdjr75
Location: “Two things are certain in life: Taxes. And UG arguing about taxes. “ - RafiDRW, ON
Joined: 07.06.2016

Feb 23 @ 9:41 AM ET
Not sure if i would really compare Laine to anyone. All the other players listed have more to their game then a wicked shot.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 23 @ 9:44 AM ET
James Mirtle Retweeted

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Draglikepull‏ @draglikepull
If Babcock not putting Corrado into the lineup for 50 games is proof Corrado isn't good, is it also proof that Leivo isn't good?


mcleafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.01.2013

Feb 23 @ 9:49 AM ET
James Mirtle Retweeted

22h
Draglikepull‏ @draglikepull
If Babcock not putting Corrado into the lineup for 50 games is proof Corrado isn't good, is it also proof that Leivo isn't good?

- burn

It doesn't take multiple games to see how poor of a skater Corrado is. Until he improves that, he's going to continue to struggle in the NHL.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 23 @ 9:49 AM ET
James Mirtle Retweeted

22h
Draglikepull‏ @draglikepull
If Babcock not putting Corrado into the lineup for 50 games is proof Corrado isn't good, is it also proof that Leivo isn't good?

- burn

Buddy couldn't even get in a game with guys like Marincin around. Toronto's forward depth is a little bit better than their defensive depth. A little bit. Yeah.

What a dumb question.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:50 AM ET
James Mirtle Retweeted

22h
Draglikepull‏ @draglikepull
If Babcock not putting Corrado into the lineup for 50 games is proof Corrado isn't good, is it also proof that Leivo isn't good?

- burn


2 different scenarios.

leivo kept his mouth shut and made the most of an opportunity when it finally came. he's forcing babcock to keep him in the lineup with his play.

corrado did the opposite.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
It doesn't take multiple games to see how poor of a skater Corrado is. Until he improves that, he's going to continue to struggle in the NHL.
- mcleafs



Corrado skating is fine. Not even an issue. Way better than likes of marincin polak hunwick.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 23 @ 9:53 AM ET
2 different scenarios.

leivo kept his mouth shut and made the most of an opportunity when it finally came. he's forcing babcock to keep him in the lineup with his play.

corrado did the opposite.

- Tumbleweed



Corrado never got a chance. I don't think he said anything untoward..
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
Kovalchuk was several tiers above him as a skater and way more dynamic.

Stamkos is probably the closest in regards to how some of his goals are scored but he has more of a net presence. Laine scores most of his goals from a greater distance, that seems way less sustainable but it's way more impressive.

I don't even know the closest comparable. Brett Hull? Hull was a volume shooter too though with several 300+ shot seasons. I'm not sure he's even a half decent comparison.

- daeth


Comparable, and this is going to sound weird....but think of Mario as a winger, mostly in terms of size and shooting and slowing the play down. Mario as a goal scorer scored on a high percentage of his shots, and used his size and quick accurate release to just score. By no means do I think Laine or anyone else not named Gretzky is at the same level.

I'm not the first to say this, many of the so called experts have said the same.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 23 @ 9:55 AM ET
Buddy couldn't even get in a game with guys like Marincin around. Toronto's forward depth is a little bit better than their defensive depth. A little bit. Yeah.

What a dumb question.

- daeth




It's the point that just cause he didn't play doesn't mean it was right. He was good enough to split time with likes of polak hunwick and marincin.

Smith has played a ton this year, but he's been terrible.... But he's played so it's the right move.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
Corrado never got a chance. I don't think he said anything untoward..
- burn


"if the coach doesn’t like you, then you’re not going to play."

(frank) that whiny sht.

corrado got a game in shortly before being demoted. he sucked. all it took was one game for leivo to earn more games.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
Wow and a lot of Jets fans had the audacity to female dog about the Kadri hit... Perreault's was a straight elbow to the head.



The West did us 3 favours last night
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 23 @ 10:01 AM ET
"if the coach doesn’t like you, then you’re not going to play."

(frank) that whiny sht.

corrado got a game in shortly before being demoted. he sucked. all it took was one game for leivo to earn more games.

- Tumbleweed



Corrado played 2 games months apart and wasn't worse blueliner in either.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
Comparable, and this is going to sound weird....but think of Mario as a winger, mostly in terms of size and shooting and slowing the play down. Mario as a goal scorer scored on a high percentage of his shots, and used his size and quick accurate release to just score. By no means do I think Laine or anyone else not named Gretzky is at the same level.

I'm not the first to say this, many of the so called experts have said the same.

- mykokes

Mario created nearly all his offense by himself. Laine is more of a finisher. Bad comparison imo.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 23 @ 10:03 AM ET
Corrado played 2 games months apart and wasn't worse blueliner in either.
- burn


Don't think he was good enough period....I'm sure not playing didnt help. He's in the AHL now and doing quite well, so he could earn his way back with the big club if he keeps it up. But, overall Burn, he didn't show enough in the games he did play.
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