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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
I'll be surprised if Boeser signs before the regular season is finished.

Carl Neil will likely be signed to a contract or at least a PTO/ATO for Utica.

Edit. Zhukenov as well should get a look at some AHL action.

- belcherbd

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Problem is protection. If we acquire Lazar we need to protect him, which means exposing granlund.
- Retinalz

I didn't know that. I though he hadn't played enough. Ya I'd stay away then, that's a good point.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
You've also said in previous posts it doesn't matter where we pick in this draft outside of pick #3, which is what I was referring to because it is stupid argument (big boys insult arguments, not people). Stop insulting me, it's childish. After the second round, specifically the first half of the second round, statistical likelihood of getting a player that plays over 100 games in the show drops off. maximize picks in that range, higher the better (statistically in every draft). See what that is, is making an arguments and supporting it with facts. none is this vague poop and petty little insults.
- neem55

It's not vague or petty. It's a different opinion then yours. You quote and show stats on what you want to believe. We show you the opposite. 2 sides to every argument.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
It's not vague or petty. It's a different opinion then yours. You quote and show stats on what you want to believe. We show you the opposite. 2 sides to every argument.
- manvanfan


Telling me I'm nailing whatever in into my head, is petty. Pathetic attempt at an insult, but still petty. Talking about 4 top5 picks without naming them, talking about building through the draft through every round, without any explanation of why you would or wouldn't maximize the first 50 picks, is vague. To have an opposing view, you have to present facts that actually oppose my view, which you haven't.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
Hutton is e-draft exempt, trade or shouldn't be traded?

Could he get a 1st?

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
Telling me I'm nailing whatever in into my head, is petty. Pathetic attempt at an insult, but still petty. Talking about 4 top5 picks without naming them, talking about building through the draft through every round, without any explanation of why you would or wouldn't maximize the first 50 picks, is vague. To have an opposing view, you have to present facts that actually oppose my view, which you haven't.
- neem55

If I'm not opposing your view then why are you arguing with me?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
If I'm not opposing your view then why are you arguing with me?
- manvanfan

That's what we do here.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Feb 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
That's what we do here.
- Marwood



no we don't
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Hutton is e-draft exempt, trade or shouldn't be traded?

Could he get a 1st?

- neem55


No and no.

Unless yes to the 2nd which would then be yes to the 1st.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Telling me I'm nailing whatever in into my head, is petty. Pathetic attempt at an insult, but still petty. Talking about 4 top5 picks without naming them, talking about building through the draft through every round, without any explanation of why you would or wouldn't maximize the first 50 picks, is vague. To have an opposing view, you have to present facts that actually oppose my view, which you haven't.
- neem55


Agreed. Some on here don't grasp that concept though.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
If I'm not opposing your view then why are you arguing with me?
- manvanfan


Because I like to point out flawed arguments, many people on here seem to oppose because of the 'weak draft' vague argument you are backing. Maybe you can change my mind with some actual facts. I've seen you make good points before, call me optimistic.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:52 PM ET
No and no.

Unless yes to the 2nd which would then be yes to the 1st.

- belcherbd


that's a bit of a head scratcher, but I think i get it. Hutton for a 1st, yes. otherwise no?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:54 PM ET
Agreed. Some on here don't grasp that concept though.
- Reubenkincade


For sure. But if someone is going to direct it at me, I'm going to point it out. sometimes I need reminding of it myself
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:54 PM ET

that's a bit of a head scratcher, but I think i get it. Hutton for a 1st, yes. otherwise no?

- neem55


As with any trade, it's only " worth it" depending on the return. No way Hutton fetches a 1st IMO.

But this team should not be looking to move their best offensive defense man IMO.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:58 PM ET
As with any trade, it's only " worth it" depending on the return. No way Hutton fetches a 1st IMO.

But this team should not be looking to move their best offensive defense man IMO.

- belcherbd


Fair. I saw Barzal for Hutton on reddit, pee'd my pants. If that trade happens, I'm voting for JB for mayor of Vancouver.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
As with any trade, it's only " worth it" depending on the return. No way Hutton fetches a 1st IMO.

But this team should not be looking to move their best offensive defense man IMO.

- belcherbd

I say this and nobody seems to understand. If we trade a Dman other than Sbisa it should be Gudbranson, not Hutton.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:01 PM ET
I say this and nobody seems to understand. If we trade a Dman other than Sbisa it should be Gudbranson, not Hutton.
- NorthNuck


Why would you trade a guy you just acquired when his value is low?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
You don't bring a kid like that in based on what he has done this year, your trading for a guy you still believe in despite underperforming. In my mind, Burr for him straight across is something I would do. I agree the value is low, could be a steal as he has been much better before this year.
- neem55


TBH, I would rather a pick in return if Burrows is going the other way to OTT
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
no we don't
- Mungo

There we have it, the title for Mungo & Marwood's radio show, "Agree to Disagree".
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
TBH, I would rather a pick in return if Burrows is going the other way to OTT
- Codes1087

Ya, now that Don pointed out he's exposed to the e-draft I agree he's not worth the risk.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Feb 23 @ 2:15 PM ET
There we have it, the title for Mungo & Marwood's radio show, "Agree to Disagree".
- Marwood



i'll reluctantly agree to this
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 2:15 PM ET
i'll reluctantly agree to this
- Mungo

I doubt it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
Because I like to point out flawed arguments, many people on here seem to oppose because of the 'weak draft' vague argument you are backing. Maybe you can change my mind with some actual facts. I've seen you make good points before, call me optimistic.
- neem55

Weak draft I view. Backed up by just about every sports analyst that has said this is a weaker then normal draft. I don't have time to write an essay about it. All I can suggest is go to hockey dB. Com look at the 2011, 2012, 2013 nhl entry drafts. Sort of points column, then at the bottom of the draft and see games average and points average. There are noticeable differences in drafts when you don't have elite talent. Outside my personal top 3 this year. I would take anyone from 4-12 then 13-20. Wherever Van ends up. I can't predict how any of these prospects will end up. No one can. Outside my top 3 I don't think anyone is going to step in and help the team next season. Yes Van needs an elite player bit honestly I'd prefer the rest of the team have experience before we get a game changer type.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
John Gibson has a lower body injury.
Bye-bye Miller.

- Marwood

jeff gillooly was the 3rd passenger with linden and FA.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
jeff gillooly was the 3rd passenger with linden and FA.
- RealityChecker

I thought that was him handing out the organic dry roasted turmeric-flavoured peanuts.
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