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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
Would have went with a 2nd and DP for Shat w/ no money retained
- nh4442


In no way would that have been enough. Honestly, I don't see how they trade him now that they're a playoff team.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
Would have went with a 2nd and DP for Shat w/ no money retained
- nh4442

And STL would tell you to go (frank) yourself.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
Would have went with a 2nd and DP for Shat w/ no money retained
- nh4442


ell oh ell
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
That would mean he is a top pairing Dman... 37th in points among Dmen.. right next to Klefbom, Giodano, Justin Faulk... a few points under guys like Niskanen, Gardiner, Josi, Pietrangelo... oh and he's only got 7 points on the PP... he's got 1 less 5v5 point than Letang.. Letang has 14 PP points.. does that make him not a top pairing guy, but a PP specialist? Come on man, that's a really bad argument.
- j.boyd919


For a guy whose best attribute is putting up points then being 37th in points doesn't lead me to believe he's a top pairing dman. Points are not the only way to measure a dman. I doubt he's doing the hard pk minutes. Or facing the toughest competition.

I'd call a top pairing dman as a guy who matches up exclusively against the other teams 1st/2nd lines. Not a guy whose a power play specialist.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
That would mean he is a top pairing Dman... 37th in points among Dmen.. right next to Klefbom, Giodano, Justin Faulk... a few points under guys like Niskanen, Gardiner, Josi, Pietrangelo... oh and he's only got 7 points on the PP... he's got 1 less 5v5 point than Letang.. Letang has 14 PP points.. does that make him not a top pairing guy, but a PP specialist? Come on man, that's a really bad argument.
- j.boyd919

Nah man Green sucks. These dudes weren't even interested at 25% retained. They don't want to look at numbers with context.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
In no way would that have been enough. Honestly, I don't see how they trade him now that they're a playoff team.
- madmike71

I know remember that was that twitter hack rumorbreak that said that's what the offer was lol
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
For a guy whose best attribute is putting up points then being 37th in points doesn't lead me to believe he's a top pairing dman. Points are not the only way to measure a dman. I doubt he's doing the hard pk minutes. Or facing the toughest competition.

I'd call a top pairing dman as a guy who matches up exclusively against the other teams 1st/2nd lines. Not a guy whose a power play specialist.

- sditulli

Why are his shot impacts at a top pair rate if all he is good for is putting up points? PK success is system based so judging a D man by his hard PK minutes is not wise.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
Would have went with a 2nd and DP for Shat w/ no money retained
- nh4442


You should be banned for this comment.

Just waste of space. Severe underprice and how the (frank) are we going to take on his salary without a lot of it retained. (maybe maata ltir till playoffs about the only way.)
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
For a guy whose best attribute is putting up points then being 37th in points doesn't lead me to believe he's a top pairing dman. Points are not the only way to measure a dman. I doubt he's doing the hard pk minutes. Or facing the toughest competition.

I'd call a top pairing dman as a guy who matches up exclusively against the other teams 1st/2nd lines. Not a guy whose a power play specialist.

- sditulli

Guess which players Green currently matches up against...
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
You should be banned for this comment.

Just waste of space. Severe underprice and how the (frank) are we going to take on his salary without a lot of it retained. (maybe maata ltir till playoffs about the only way.)

- sditulli


Speaking of LTIR... How many games does OM have to miss before he can be placed on LTIR? Daley is obviously headed there too, but not before the TDL.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
You should be banned for this comment.

Just waste of space. Severe underprice and how the (frank) are we going to take on his salary without a lot of it retained. (maybe maata ltir till playoffs about the only way.)

- sditulli

Please see post about how that was the "rumored" trade that was on Twitter weeks ago... maybe I should have preempted it with " I would have done rumorbreak a deal of......"


Sorry
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
Speaking of LTIR... How many games does OM have to miss before he can be placed on LTIR? Daley is obviously headed there too, but not before the TDL.
- madmike71

Thought he was already there
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
You should be banned for this comment.

Just waste of space. Severe underprice and how the (frank) are we going to take on his salary without a lot of it retained. (maybe maata ltir till playoffs about the only way.)

- sditulli


Wow...after some of the stuff Ive seen you post around here....come on...
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:03 AM ET
For a guy whose best attribute is putting up points then being 37th in points doesn't lead me to believe he's a top pairing dman. Points are not the only way to measure a dman. I doubt he's doing the hard pk minutes. Or facing the toughest competition.

I'd call a top pairing dman as a guy who matches up exclusively against the other teams 1st/2nd lines. Not a guy whose a power play specialist.

- sditulli


tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Omaha, NE
Joined: 12.29.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
Speaking of LTIR... How many games does OM have to miss before he can be placed on LTIR? Daley is obviously headed there too, but not before the TDL.
- madmike71

I believe he can go on LTIR anytime. He must stay on LTIR for 10 games or 24 days I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
If Hainsey is worth a second I dont want any other trades please. Too expensive for my taste.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:05 AM ET

- j.boyd919

LOL so Green has nearly identical TOI.QoC as Letang and Shattenkirk while starting a higher percentage of his shifts in the D zone. Yeah Green sucks
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
Wow...after some of the stuff Ive seen you post around here....come on...
- MattStrat

cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
If Hainsey is worth a second I dont want any other trades please. Too expensive for my taste.
- Zac_O


Hainsey is worth a 3rd. It moves up to a 2nd with the salary retention
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
Thought he was already there
- nh4442



Just found it. 10 regular season games or 24 calender days. Maatta won't be on LTIR before the TDL. F*ck. So that's why we asked them to retain salary.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
If Hainsey is worth a second I dont want any other trades please. Too expensive for my taste.
- Zac_O

Yeah gotta hold onto all those low value picks and hope they become NHL regulars in 5 years.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
Yeah gotta hold onto all those low value picks and hope they become NHL regulars in 5 years.
- Feds91Stammer


I like lottery tickets.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Just found it. 10 regular season games or 24 calender days. Maatta won't be on LTIR before the TDL. F*ck. So that's why we asked them to retain salary.
- madmike71

He can go on LTIR before the deadline but there is more to getting cap relief than simply putting a guy on LTIR.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
I just don't understand with all this concussion problems in NHL and with Sid that Schultz is on the ice for practice today
tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Omaha, NE
Joined: 12.29.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:09 AM ET
Schultz is practicing.
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