MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Mike = 31
Shatts = 28.
Now that means something, but I just can't put my finger on it???
How old is too old for Dmen in the NHL, because 30 & you're (frank)ed if you are a forward!
- Aussiepenguin
hahah thats funny sh!t right there Aussie |
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Just please no Ron Hainsey.
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Just please no Ron Hainsey. - YouMeAndDupuis9
I really cant see the Pens and Canes making deals with GMJR at the helm. I dont think they like him much anymore. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Omaha, NE Joined: 12.29.2015
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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Columbia , MD Joined: 11.28.2006
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Surgery for Daley?
- tpcg402
Dang. |
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Right now I am all good with the Pens trading picks and prospects if it gets them a big improvement for a playoff run.
This past year it seems all of the Pens forward prospects have started to pan out. Sheary, Rust, Guentzel, Wilson all look like top 9 capable young players. Sprong and Simon are out there too with a lot of potential. They could trade away Sprong and their first and be fine for the next several years. And Pens need to cut ties with Pouliot, even if they can't get fair value. - MacPatty
That makes no sense. We are likley to lose a forward to expansion. So keeping forward depth especially a guy like sprong with top 6 ability is important. Its all about cap savings. Sprongs panning out saves you 10-15 million in cap costs during his UFA years. Versus some rental guy added to a team that is already good.
Different story if we are talking Duchene, but of the rentals only shatt is worth sprong, but because our window is open for the next 8 years (murray changed a lot) I don't see the reason to ship our assets that can help us during that time for rentals.
Why would you cut ties with pouliot if you can't get fair value. I'm not taking a 3rd round pick for the kid. He can play in wbs until he's ready. Its better than giving him away. |
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nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 02.03.2007
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I think most would agree with you there! Who the (frank) will pay a 1st for Green & his 6m contract?? Is anyone sure a team will go a 1st for Shatts?? - Aussiepenguin
I think the Pens will pay Pouliot and a 1st. |
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Why wouldn't a team give up a 1st (especially a team 1st in what's considered a weak draft if they are a contending team) to add a top pairing defenseman with another year on their contract the their team?
What makes giving up a 1st for a ufa that's going to walk in 3 months more appealing than a year and a half of a top pairing defenseman? I understand the expansion draft (frank)s everything up, but still... top pair defenseman don't come on the market often, a 1st at the least is very fair. - j.boyd919
Mike Green isn't a top pairing guy. And his contract is big. Bigger issue of trading for him is next years $6 million salary than the 1st round pick. The reason you trade for a rental over term is a rental lets you take on salary you couldn't fit under the cap for a full year either thru retention of if you've been building cap all year. |
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I think the Pens will pay Pouliot and a 1st. - nelson911
I don't see how we can take Greens salalary.
I also don't think he slots well at all in Pittsburgh. Who do you pair him with. Letang-Dumo won't be broken. Schultz/Cole has chemistry. Daley-Green would be a disaster defensively. |
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hipcheck_goalie
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: shreveport, LA Joined: 02.08.2012
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Mike Green isn't a top pairing guy. And his contract is big. Bigger issue of trading for him is next years $6 million salary than the 1st round pick. The reason you trade for a rental over term is a rental lets you take on salary you couldn't fit under the cap for a full year either thru retention of if you've been building cap all year. - sditulli
JR said he's not concerned about the cap next year. He will fix it in the off-season. He could trade for Green and win the Cup then trade him for assets. |
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tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Omaha, NE Joined: 12.29.2015
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Just please no Ron Hainsey. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Unfortunately for you that is what we get. 2nd round pick and Danny Kristo for Hainsey
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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I really cant see the Pens and Canes making deals with GMJR at the helm. I dont think they like him much anymore. - MattStrat
They like him just fine. I don't get where this comes from.
Literally the only people who seem to think there's bad blood there are Penguins fans.
Also Danny Kristo and a 2nd? Lol |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Just please no Ron Hainsey. - YouMeAndDupuis9
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hipcheck_goalie
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: shreveport, LA Joined: 02.08.2012
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They like him just fine. I don't get where this comes from.
Literally the only people who seem to think there's bad blood there are Penguins fans.
Also Danny Kristo and a 2nd? Lol - BINGO!
Who is Kristo? |
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tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Omaha, NE Joined: 12.29.2015
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Who is Kristo? - hipcheck_goalie
An AHL depth forward |
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tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Omaha, NE Joined: 12.29.2015
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Surgery for Daley?
- tpcg402
6 weeks for Daley.
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Mike Green isn't a top pairing guy. And his contract is big. Bigger issue of trading for him is next years $6 million salary than the 1st round pick. The reason you trade for a rental over term is a rental lets you take on salary you couldn't fit under the cap for a full year either thru retention of if you've been building cap all year. - sditulli
Mike Green is absolutely a top pairing guy. Get the hell out of here lol
EDIT: Not every team has a Letang, Burns, Hedman, Keith, etc. Those guys are elite 1st pairing D. But there is not 30 of them in the league. To say Green isn't in that 2nd tier of top pairing defenseman is foolish. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Who is Kristo? - hipcheck_goalie
Basically nobody.
Probably just gives the Pens space to add another contract if they choose. |
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simethos
Season Ticket Holder Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.02.2007
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I don't know enough about Hainsey, but his numbers don't look THAT bad. He has been on some bad teams. /Shrug |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Basically nobody.
Probably just gives the Pens space to add another contract if they choose. - BINGO!
What should we know about Hainsey? I know we kinda talked about it last week. |
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I'm not a fan of a 2nd pick for Ron frickin hainsey. I guess the team is desperate though |
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nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 02.03.2007
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I don't see how we can take Greens salalary.
I also don't think he slots well at all in Pittsburgh. Who do you pair him with. Letang-Dumo won't be broken. Schultz/Cole has chemistry. Daley-Green would be a disaster defensively. - sditulli
I was referring to Shattenkirk.... I dont think there is any possibility of Green being traded. |
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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Columbia , MD Joined: 11.28.2006
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What should we know about Hainsey? I know we kinda talked about it last week. - j.boyd919
He used to play for Columbus. That's all I got. |
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tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Omaha, NE Joined: 12.29.2015
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I'm not a fan of a 2nd pick for Ron frickin hainsey. I guess the team is desperate though - drummer829
Me neither. Carolina is retaining half of his ~$2.8 cap hit though. Prob another similar move coming in next week for another D |
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