Ghost was a third rounder. Sanheim was drafted mid first round. I'm tired of the old process. how many cups did that get? building through the draft may be a painfully slow process considering Flyers fans are used to instant gratification but I am willing to be patient cause the old way hasn't gotten them any closer to a cup and has actually gotten them in this mess that Hextall has been trying to climb out of
- nastyflyergirl

Yes and no. He had a great run in the beginning. From 84-89 he had a very young team in the final 4 three times and the finals twice. It was just our luck that both trips to the finals pitted us against one of the greatest teams of all time and we were also hit hard with injuries both times. He also took a chance and hit a homerun hiring Mike Keenan in 1984.

He had a tendency to hold on to guys for too long and also hold grudges (McCrimmon) and that often came back to bite him.

In his second run, he made the Recchi for Leclair and Desjardins deal, turned a bitter Gary Galley into Petr Svoboda, got Dykhuis for a song and made the team a contender almost overnight. Yes, he did not handle the Lindros drama well, but, in his defense, I think any GM would have struggled with that situation. At the end of the day, he was able to keep the team pretty damn competitive from 1994 to 2004.

On the negative side, he had a tendency to quickly burn through coaches, especially between Murray and Hitch and he was completely unprepared for the cap era and rule changes that followed the lockout. He'll be the first to admit that he was burned out by then and that his heart wasn't in it, and I think he probably regrets not stepping down during the lockout season.

Overall though, in 17 full seasons as GM, his teams only missed the playoffs once, went to the final four 7 times and made 3 trips to the finals. That is hardly Mike Milbury territory.
- BiggE

This was a smackdown if ever there was one. You are on fire today.

Watching the games, it seems as though the forwards option #1 is to get the puck to the point most of the time.

It would be like running a pass play in the NFL, and having the check-down be the primary option.
- JFlyers00

It really is hard to say, if you have fast, talented forwards that can cause the D to sag in and opposing forwards to move too low down in the zone, getting the puck back to wide open D at the point while crashing the net is a smart play. To me, it still mainly comes down to talent, and they just don't have enough right now.

This was a smackdown if ever there was one. You are on fire today.

- MBFlyerfan

Well, it is a slow day at the office.

Ghost was a third rounder. Sanheim was drafted mid first round. I'm tired of the old process. how many cups did that get? building through the draft may be a painfully slow process considering Flyers fans are used to instant gratification but I am willing to be patient cause the old way hasn't gotten them any closer to a cup and has actually gotten them in this mess that Hextall has been trying to climb out of
- nastyflyergirl

Hextall has shown us great things in terms of accumulating assets. His sense of timing and ability to construct team are still very open ended. This team is currently a ill-conceived hodgepodge. Your chances of drafting d talent is better with high picks. This is why you bat .300 hitters higher in the order than .162 hitters. Percentages mean something. Your chances at getting great talent late is much worse than if you are going after top five picks.

Well, it is a slow day at the office.

- BiggE

We have a bear running around the area today. So maybe someone will get stupid and send some work your way.....

The Weise-Couturier-Voracek line were good against Vancouver. You'd have to be a strange duck to complain about Weise getting another game in that spot when we only have 12 healthy forwards.

Ghost was a third rounder. Sanheim was drafted mid first round. I'm tired of the old process. how many cups did that get? building through the draft may be a painfully slow process considering Flyers fans are used to instant gratification but I am willing to be patient cause the old way hasn't gotten them any closer to a cup and has actually gotten them in this mess that Hextall has been trying to climb out of
- nastyflyergirl

hextal was part of the management team that created this mess you speak of.

The Weise-Couturier-Voracek line were good against Vancouver. You'd have to be a strange duck to complain about Weise getting another game in that spot when we only have 12 healthy forwards.
- Feanor

Question asked and answered.......

We have a bear running around the area today. So maybe someone will get stupid and send some work your way.....
- MBFlyerfan

Pens with another injury on D last night.

Del Zotto would look good in black and gold, just sayin.....

Pens with another injury on D last night.

Del Zotto would look good in black and gold, just sayin.....
- BiggE

no one looks good in black and gold

Combine this with their shot chart:



Just screams systems issue to me.
- JFlyers00

So this means they are better than league average shooting from in close and worse than league average shooting from afar?

Pens with another injury on D last night.

Del Zotto would look good in black and gold, just sayin.....
- BiggE

They do specialize in making dmen who were awful on their last team like Daley and JSchultz look good. So long as they can skate, which MDZ can.

Who said it was ideal? He is the 2nd injury replacement for Konecny in that spot. I don't even think you know what you're complaining about half the time. It was by far the most effective line on Saturday. But you can't get your negative mind past Weise's 2 goals.
- Baxter27

Yes and no. He had a great run in the beginning. From 84-89 he had a very young team in the final 4 three times and the finals twice. It was just our luck that both trips to the finals pitted us against one of the greatest teams of all time and we were also hit hard with injuries both times. He also took a chance and hit a homerun hiring Mike Keenan in 1984.

He had a tendency to hold on to guys for too long and also hold grudges (McCrimmon) and that often came back to bite him.

In his second run, he made the Recchi for Leclair and Desjardins deal, turned a bitter Gary Galley into Petr Svoboda, got Dykhuis for a song and made the team a contender almost overnight. Yes, he did not handle the Lindros drama well, but, in his defense, I think any GM would have struggled with that situation. At the end of the day, he was able to keep the team pretty damn competitive from 1994 to 2004.

On the negative side, he had a tendency to quickly burn through coaches, especially between Murray and Hitch and he was completely unprepared for the cap era and rule changes that followed the lockout. He'll be the first to admit that he was burned out by then and that his heart wasn't in it, and I think he probably regrets not stepping down during the lockout season.

Overall though, in 17 full seasons as GM, his teams only missed the playoffs once, went to the final four 7 times and made 3 trips to the finals. That is hardly Mike Milbury territory.
- BiggE

oh
snap

Odd how the Flyers managed to make the playoffs so often with back to back bad GMs.
- Baxter27

Hard to miss the playoffs when 1/2 the teams make them

The Weise-Couturier-Voracek line were good against Vancouver. You'd have to be a strange duck to complain about Weise getting another game in that spot when we only have 12 healthy forwards.
- Feanor

Call some AHL Guy up and Scratch WEISE!

no one looks good in black and gold
- YuenglingJagr

Hard to miss the playoffs when 1/2 the teams make them
- dragonoffrost

Edmonton, Arizona and Winnipeg say hello.

Edmonton, Arizona and Winnipeg say hello.
- BiggE

I was being sarcastic

Which my followup post about Weise should have made obvious...

Thy GIF is hilarious... And yes Holmgren was awful.
- redcoat75

If you want to say there was good and bad to his tenure, then it's hard to argue.

But "awful"? He took the team from its worst record in franchise history directly to the Eastern Conference final the next year. During his tenure, the Flyers went to a Cup Final, had seasons of 106, 103 and 99 points and had seven total playoff series wins overall.

He had hits and misses, but that's not the mark of an awful GM.

I was reading the 5 things to know post on the Flyers website and this scares me

Michael Raffl and Claude Giroux are the only Flyers to have scored in the season series thus far for Philly.

Does G break out tonight?

So this means they are better than league average shooting from in close and worse than league average shooting from afar?
- Scoob

No.

The chart is for 5v5. It shows that the Flyers shot rate is significantly less than league average from in close (blue) while significantly more from the perimeter (red).

Edmonton, Arizona and Winnipeg say hello.
- BiggE

The richest team in hockey has made the playoffs once in the last 11 years.