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Ddomnitch
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
T-Minus 7 days and 1 hour to the deadline

JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
Strome can, and should, be better than Nelson but I don't know if I'm ready to say that yet. He's looked really good since Weight took over and he definitely plays with a little edge to his game, but until he produces like Nelson over a long period of time...I'm not ready to say that he's better yet.
- eichiefs9


I fully believe that Crappy was holding him back. Not intentionally but with his stupid coaching. There were interviews where Strome sounded perplexed. Now he's playing with some confidence. However it remains to be seen if this is a temporary bump, or a new and improved Strome.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
T-Minus 7 days and 1 hour to the deadline
- Ddomnitch


Ugh. Can't some soon enough. It should be at the end of January.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:02 PM ET
I would hope Garth talked to Stevie Y. You are killing me with Johnson chief. I'm trying to forget the guy.
- ses111



PM'd you make sure your sitting down !
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
Strome can, and should, be better than Nelson but I don't know if I'm ready to say that yet. He's looked really good since Weight took over and he definitely plays with a little edge to his game, but until he produces like Nelson over a long period of time...I'm not ready to say that he's better yet.
- eichiefs9


This is all fair. Nelson still has the numbers over Strome. I just have a problem with Nelson type players. His soft play brings bad flashbacks to Frans.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
Ugh. Can't some soon enough. It should be at the end of January.
- JimmyP


I agree. March is too late. NHL franks everything up. Playoff format, 3 point games and trade deadline. When are they going to get something right?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
This is all fair. Nelson still has the numbers over Strome. I just have a problem with Nelson type players. His soft play brings bad flashbacks to Frans.
- ses111

jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
8-10 blue chip prospects??? I don't know about that.

The Islanders have approximately 3 prospects that I'd consider blue-chip guys. Barzal, Sorokin, Pulock. That's about it.

I'm fine with trading any of the guys not listed above, but they definitely aren't considered blue chip prospects around the league and they aren't going to be the centerpiece of any major deals. Not saying they're worthless, but they aren't top-tier prospects.

- eichiefs9


Gotta think that maybe L&M have put a cap on Garth making any trades unless they are slam dunk winners/too good to turn down. Per Staples reports, they may just want to hold tight for this season & give the new President & potential (hopefully) new GM the most assets to work with. Rentals come at a high price and theres a lot of road games ahead & thru the end of the season. I think they will hold pat or be sellers, at best.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
PM'd you make sure your sitting down !
- nyisles7




I'm so sorry for any bad thing I ever said about KO and Frans.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:12 PM ET


I'm so sorry for any bad thing I ever said about KO and Frans.

- ses111




Your welcome ! Thats for a PO series win
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
Gotta think that maybe L&M have put a cap on Garth making any trades unless they are slam dunk winners/too good to turn down. Per Staples reports, they may just want to hold tight for this season & give the new President & potential (hopefully) new GM the most assets to work with. Rentals come at a high price and theres a lot of road games ahead & thru the end of the season. I think they will hold pat or be sellers, at best.
- jmo16


I thought Staple has mentioned in the past Garth had full control to do what was needed? Would make sense to hold off on anything big until the new president and possible new GM take over. Have to think if the Isles miss the playoffs or are out in one round, the new people will really look to make a splash.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
This is all fair. Nelson still has the numbers over Strome. I just have a problem with Nelson type players. His soft play brings bad flashbacks to Frans.
- ses111


Nelly has more edge than Frans. This team is w/o an enforcer. Strome probably is number 2 or 3 in fights this year. Maybe thats part of the prob. Brock gets into scrums when he goes to the net but I agree he could be tougher.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:14 PM ET


Your welcome ! Thats for a PO series win

- nyisles7




Does this mean I have to be kind to Frans and KO going forward? I can try to be kind for the rest of the year if it helps?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:15 PM ET
Gotta think that maybe L&M have put a cap on Garth making any trades unless they are slam dunk winners/too good to turn down. Per Staples reports, they may just want to hold tight for this season & give the new President & potential (hopefully) new GM the most assets to work with. Rentals come at a high price and theres a lot of road games ahead & thru the end of the season. I think they will hold pat or be sellers, at best.
- jmo16


Its what I am hoping for.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:16 PM ET


Does this mean I have to be kind to Frans and KO going forward? I can try to be kind for the rest of the year if it helps?

- ses111


Frans sent me that so...
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
Nelly has more edge than Frans. This team is w/o an enforcer. Strome probably is number 2 or 3 in fights this year. Maybe thats part of the prob. Brock gets into scrums when he goes to the net but I agree he could be tougher.
- jmo16


Must be nice to Frans. Must be nice to Frans.

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I'm not looking for fights from Nelson. Just drive the net and be tougher in the D zone
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
I think it matters on the term where the $$ is. But we are aligned on what he will get.

Thing is on The Isles and away from his buddies that formed that incredible line is he the same player point wise?

- nyisles7

I mean it's certainly a risk, but I think it's a calculated one. I think he could probably play just as well with Tavares and Lee. Him centering two other wings though? No clue.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
I fully believe that Crappy was holding him back. Not intentionally but with his stupid coaching. There were interviews where Strome sounded perplexed. Now he's playing with some confidence. However it remains to be seen if this is a temporary bump, or a new and improved Strome.
- JimmyP



I think it's pretty obvious that the players respect Weight and are playing hard for him. Strome has been given a role and it seems to be something's he's needed.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
Frans sent me that so...
- nyisles7




No wonder why he is so mellow.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
Gotta think that maybe L&M have put a cap on Garth making any trades unless they are slam dunk winners/too good to turn down. Per Staples reports, they may just want to hold tight for this season & give the new President & potential (hopefully) new GM the most assets to work with. Rentals come at a high price and theres a lot of road games ahead & thru the end of the season. I think they will hold pat or be sellers, at best.
- jmo16

Oh yeah, I don't think that anything is happening at the deadline. I don't really want any rentals. Market is thin, prices will be high, and there isn't much talent out there in that market.

Any significant moves will be made after the playoffs are over. But there won't be much time because, if I recall, the expansion draft will be at some point in June, before the regular draft.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
I thought Staple has mentioned in the past Garth had full control to do what was needed? Would make sense to hold off on anything big until the new president and possible new GM take over. Have to think if the Isles miss the playoffs or are out in one round, the new people will really look to make a splash.
- ses111


I meant the report when Stape confirmed owners searching for PoHOps for next year. I dont remember a quote but it felt like they were not willing to go all in, this season.

They WERE dead last in the conference when Cappy was fired, however but still, if they wanted Garth to make a big acquisition, wouldnt they have been willing to overpay a little to get a solid player like MD or GL by now? Why wait till last minute? Team is fighting to climb into the PO's.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
I mean it's certainly a risk, but I think it's a calculated one. I think he could probably play just as well with Tavares and Lee. Him centering two other wings though? No clue.
- eichiefs9


But where does Bailey play then
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
Oh yeah, I don't think that anything is happening at the deadline. I don't really want any rentals. Market is thin, prices will be high, and there isn't much talent out there in that market.

Any significant moves will be made after the playoffs are over. But there won't be much time because, if I recall, the expansion draft will be at some point in June, before the regular draft.

- eichiefs9


Very hard to make a huge splash at the deadline. Hate to give Garth a pass, but it's going to be real tough.

I really hope L & M have a good idea on who they want for President. No time to waste.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:22 PM ET


No wonder why he is so mellow.

- ses111

thats a great answer Ses
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:22 PM ET
But where does Bailey play then
- nyisles7


Which player are we chatting about?
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