Ho Sang can't even spell the word "defense" and MDC, as you said, isn't worthy of a call-up. They need someone who can slot in on the 4th line and I don't think either of them fit the bill. Not to mention it's much better for their development to be playing big minutes in BPT instead of getting 7:00 TOI here.
- eichiefs9

We can always trade for Nino and put him back in that roll since it worked so well for him

I agree. I'm looking at it from the Isles side though. I'm fine if a deal cannot be made with Sakic. Go get someone else. Garth cannot fall for just one guy like with Stamkos.
- ses111

I have to imagine he's at least talked to Yzerman about Johnson. I'm sure priority #1 is Duchene, but having Johnson as a fallback option would be a good move. I really like the fact that he's a RH shot and can eventually be moved to wing if/when Barzal gives them no option.

I agree. Sakic needs to come back to Earth. Garth has to look at Plan B. He needs to do his homework and find another player that can help.
- ses111

Sakic has a slew of offers on his desk from numerous teams for both Landy and Duchene at this point and there's no need for him to lower his asking price right now. He has time and if he truly wants to trade one or both of these guys he's either going to get what he wants from someone out there or he will have to look at his offers and make the decision if it makes sense to pull the trigger.
We will find out soon enough which way this goes.

I would saying something in the realm of 6 years, $30M ($5M AAV)
- eichiefs9

That's exactly what I was thinking.

I have to imagine he's at least talked to Yzerman about Johnson. I'm sure priority #1 is Duchene, but having Johnson as a fallback option would be a good move. I really like the fact that he's a RH shot and can eventually be moved to wing if/when Barzal gives them no option.
- eichiefs9

I would hope Garth talked to Stevie Y. You are killing me with Johnson chief. I'm trying to forget the guy.

Again I agree everyone should be available for a trade no matter who they are. No one should be safe. In that case players will play harder and want to stay. For me one guy like Nelson can be traded. Very streaky player takes stupid penalties and his defensive play has been lacking. Also with all these prospects they all can not play on this team there is no room for them. I say lets get something done and enough of GArths little babies and move forward. This team has been stuck in neutral for way to long
- kasperrko

thats more like strome although hes really picked it up. showed his stats 11 points in 11 games as opposed to like 15 in 44 with cappy

I have to imagine he's at least talked to Yzerman about Johnson. I'm sure priority #1 is Duchene, but having Johnson as a fallback option would be a good move. I really like the fact that he's a RH shot and can eventually be moved to wing if/when Barzal gives them no option.
- eichiefs9

Garth probably does not know who Johnson is

I agree. I'm looking at it from the Isles side though. I'm fine if a deal cannot be made with Sakic. Go get someone else. Garth cannot fall for just one guy like with Stamkos.
- ses111

Agreed he needs to find his inner whore

thats more like strome although hes really picked it up. showed his stats 11 points in 11 games as opposed to like 15 in 44 with cappy
- Upstate_isles

True but I think Strome has a lot more potential then Nelson. I have seen a big difference ever since Weight has taken over. IT is like he is a new player. I give him one year under a new coach to see what he is mage of. Nelson I hardly even hear his name anymore

Agreed he needs to find his inner whore
- Upstate_isles

True but that is Garth. When the deal for Duchense falls through he will trade a pick for some guy who he thinks has a little upside

True but I think Strome has a lot more potential then Nelson. I have seen a big difference ever since Weight has taken over. IT is like he is a new player. I give him one year under a new coach to see what he is mage of. Nelson I hardly even hear his name anymore
- kasperrko

Strome has more upside and a set of balls on him, nelson has a great shot but hes really a perimeter player

The thing is...Sakic doesn't need to come back to earth. He can put his feet up and tell everyone that the price is the price, take it or leave it. Duchene has plenty of term left, isn't a problem, and is a really, really good player. He's under no pressure to move him. If he caves on Duchene's price he should be fired on the spot.

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Sounds like Clutterbuck may skate tomorrow. Cizikas could be longer term. No official word from #Isles until AM skate tomorrow.
- eichiefs9

He shoulda been fired on the spot the minute Vanek left for less money after giving up a first etc.

Agreed he needs to find his inner whore
- Upstate_isles

His inner whore.......thats great, im dying

He shoulda been fired on the spot the minute Vanek left for less money after giving up a first etc.
- kindlyrick

I was talking about Sakic.

Strome has more upside and a set of balls on him, nelson has a great shot but hes really a perimeter player
- Upstate_isles

I'll take Strome over Nelson. Nelson and de Haan for Johnson.

Agreed he needs to find his inner whore
- Upstate_isles

I thought Garth had that covered with some of those pics we saw?

I thought Garth had that covered with some of those pics we saw?
- ses111

well thats one thing we cant knock him for


heres our big move boys
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That's exactly what I was thinking.
- nyisles7

Might fall somewhere between $5M and $5.5M, but I wouldn't go too much higher on him.

I'll take Strome over Nelson. Nelson and de Haan for Johnson.
- ses111

Really? Strome over Nelson? I'll politely disagree with that statement.

Really? Strome over Nelson? I'll politely disagree with that statement.
- kindlyrick

Strome has passion and also has skill. Nelson is a softy and has very little drive.

well thats one thing we cant knock him for



- Upstate_islesheres our big move boys
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#Isles announce Connor Jones has signed a two-way (NHL/AHL) deal for the remainder of the season. Was on AHL deal.

Garth is just warming up. Look out for the big deal next.

Strome has passion and also has skill. Nelson is a softy and has very little drive.
- ses111

Strome can, and should, be better than Nelson but I don't know if I'm ready to say that yet. He's looked really good since Weight took over and he definitely plays with a little edge to his game, but until he produces like Nelson over a long period of time...I'm not ready to say that he's better yet.

Might fall somewhere between $5M and $5.5M, but I wouldn't go too much higher on him.
- eichiefs9

I think it matters on the term where the $$ is. But we are aligned on what he will get.

Thing is on The Isles and away from his buddies that formed that incredible line is he the same player point wise?

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Fun #Isles fact: The line of Anders Lee-John Tavares-Josh Bailey is 4th in the LEAGUE in Adjusted Corsi (min 300 minutes together)

Garth is just warming up. Look out for the big deal next.
- ses111

He's warming up alright Ses.