the giontas do his name is joe and he played at Broome Community College here in binghamton in the 93 94 and 94 95 seasons
- Upstate_isles

Sign him up.......he'll get at least one call up.

Tampa has to trade him. They're not going to be able to sign him, Palat and Drouin and I'd place a much bigger importance on signing the latter two. Maybe they hold on to him until after the season (RFA will still carry plenty of value), but it's highly likely they move him.

They need defenseman and we are probably going to have to trade one of CdH/Hickey, or risk losing them to LV. A trade centered around one of those guys and another asset would likely be pretty reasonable for both sides. Tampa can't add much salary, but needs competent defensemen badly. Both of those defenseman make reasonable money. CdH needs a contract but I don't see him getting much more than he's making now. Hickey has another year at $2.2M, which is pretty good for what he provides.
- eichiefs9

Stop getting me hot for Tyler chief.

They need someone who can play on the fourth line. Neither of those guys are capable of that.
- eichiefs9

i edited my post after thinking about it

My thing with prospects is that they can kill it in Juniors kill it in the AHL and then they get to the NHL and they forget that they are playing hockey. Prospects are chances and sometimes those chances dont turn out to be NHL talent no matter what the scouts say. You never know what you are getting until they step on NHL ice.
- kasperrko

I dont disagree.......how many times do people on here say "30 goal scorers are never traded". You have guys up for grabs......so you pay up and get one. I dont think its going to hurt the future of this team. I'd argue that not bringing in one of the elite names mentioned would hurt them though.

Sign him up.......he'll get at least one call up.
- kindlyrick

imagine how that guy feels, so joe uh your brothers both went to b.c. and you went to b.c.c.

i edited my post after thinking about it
- Upstate_isles

All kidding aside, I get not calling up MDC and Ho Sang.

Do we know what the injuries to CC and CC were?
- kindlyrick

This was the only thing I saw, from last night:

New York IslandersVerified account‏@NYIslanders 15h15 hours ago

#Isles injury update: Cal Clutterbuck (lower body) and Casey Cizikas (upper body) will not return to tonight's game

Clutterbuck must have aggravated whatever was holding him out prior. Cizikas pretty clearly did something to his hand/wrist on that fluky play. No idea what, but it looks like he may have jammed a finger.

Staple tweeted this a few minutes ago:

Arthur StapleVerified account‏@StapeNewsday 9m9 minutes ago

No update yet on severity of Cizikas/Clutterbuck injuries. #Isles have the day off today in Montreal.

imagine how that guy feels, so joe uh your brothers both went to b.c. and you went to b.c.c.
- Upstate_isles

Makes for great Thanksgiving chirps...

Tampa has to trade him. They're not going to be able to sign him, Palat and Drouin and I'd place a much bigger importance on signing the latter two. Maybe they hold on to him until after the season (RFA will still carry plenty of value), but it's highly likely they move him.

They need defenseman and we are probably going to have to trade one of CdH/Hickey, or risk losing them to LV. A trade centered around one of those guys and another asset would likely be pretty reasonable for both sides. Tampa can't add much salary, but needs competent defensemen badly. Both of those defenseman make reasonable money. CdH needs a contract but I don't see him getting much more than he's making now. Hickey has another year at $2.2M, which is pretty good for what he provides.
- eichiefs9

Yzerman has been a mastermind as gm thus far and has even gotten guys to sign under market... There is no way he trades Johnson with in the conference for anything less than what the Duchene asking price is, CDH and Hickey aren't getting it done

Stop getting me hot for Tyler chief.
- ses111

this may get you hot, but the way you are saying it is getting me bothered

No sleep till Tyler Johnson. No Coli. Queen or Belmont. Get it done.
- ses111

Interesting player to add Ses, however he is a RFA July 1st so, no term left with him so what does it take to sign him? $/Term?

This was the only thing I saw, from last night:

New York IslandersVerified account‏@NYIslanders 15h15 hours ago

#Isles injury update: Cal Clutterbuck (lower body) and Casey Cizikas (upper body) will not return to tonight's game

Clutterbuck must have aggravated whatever was holding him out prior. Cizikas pretty clearly did something to his hand/wrist on that fluky play. No idea what, but it looks like he may have jammed a finger.

Staple tweeted this a few minutes ago:

Arthur StapleVerified account‏@StapeNewsday 9m9 minutes ago

No update yet on severity of Cizikas/Clutterbuck injuries. #Isles have the day off today in Montreal.
- eichiefs9

Yeah I saw Cizikas took his glove off right away. Clutterbuck prob came back too soon. Either way that sucks being on the road and being wihtout those two. Hopefully some young blood will work their bags off for the big club.

this may get you hot, but the way you are saying it is getting me bothered
- Upstate_isles

I'm like schwein with Lee.

Stop getting me hot for Tyler chief.
- ses111

I think he's a good option if Sakic won't budge (which is highly likely) on Duchene's asking price.

Trading something like Barzal, Pulock, & 1st or Nelson, MDC, Pulock, & 1st is insanity. It won't make this team better.

Johnson is a good second option, plus Snow and Yzerman have a history of doing business together.

Interesting player to add Ses, however he is a RFA July 1st so, no term left with him so what does it take to sign him? $/Term?
- nyisles7

Forget it. I'm putting TL out of my mind.

All kidding aside, I get not calling up MDC and Ho Sang.
- ses111

I get it, JHS is on fire now but his off ice issues are why he doesn't get consideration...MDC quite frankly has not been anywhere near good enough.... But at some point we need to see Pulock back up

Interesting player to add Ses, however he is a RFA July 1st so, no term left with him so what does it take to sign him? $/Term?
- nyisles7

I would saying something in the realm of 6 years, $30M ($5M AAV)

I get it, JHS is on fire now but his off ice issues are why he doesn't get consideration...MDC quite frankly has not been anywhere near good enough.... But at some point we need to see Pulock back up
- jmoney4080

Ho Sang can't even spell the word "defense" and MDC, as you said, isn't worthy of a call-up. They need someone who can slot in on the 4th line and I don't think either of them fit the bill. Not to mention it's much better for their development to be playing big minutes in BPT instead of getting 7:00 TOI here.

I think he's a good option if Sakic won't budge (which is highly likely) on Duchene's asking price.

Trading something like Barzal, Pulock, & 1st or Nelson, MDC, Pulock, & 1st is insanity. It won't make this team better.

Johnson is a good second option, plus Snow and Yzerman have a history of doing business together.
- eichiefs9

I agree. Sakic needs to come back to Earth. Garth has to look at Plan B. He needs to do his homework and find another player that can help.

Yeah I saw Cizikas took his glove off right away. Clutterbuck prob came back too soon. Either way that sucks being on the road and being wihtout those two. Hopefully some young blood will work their bags off for the big club.
- kindlyrick

they should just bag clutterbuck for the season

I agree. Sakic needs to come back to Earth. Garth has to look at Plan B. He needs to do his homework and find another player that can help.
- ses111

The thing is...Sakic doesn't need to come back to earth. He can put his feet up and tell everyone that the price is the price, take it or leave it. Duchene has plenty of term left, isn't a problem, and is a really, really good player. He's under no pressure to move him. If he caves on Duchene's price he should be fired on the spot.

Unrelated:

Arthur StapleVerified account‏@StapeNewsday 1m1 minute ago

Sounds like Clutterbuck may skate tomorrow. Cizikas could be longer term. No official word from #Isles until AM skate tomorrow.

they should just bag clutterbuck for the season
- Upstate_isles

I agree. Guy cannot stay healthy.

Ho Sang can't even spell the word "defense" and MDC, as you said, isn't worthy of a call-up. They need someone who can slot in on the 4th line and I don't think either of them fit the bill. Not to mention it's much better for their development to be playing big minutes in BPT instead of getting 7:00 TOI here.
- eichiefs9

well they are top 6 players and we need checkers and defensive minded guys so it makes sense.

I dont disagree.......how many times do people on here say "30 goal scorers are never traded". You have guys up for grabs......so you pay up and get one. I dont think its going to hurt the future of this team. I'd argue that not bringing in one of the elite names mentioned would hurt them though.
- kindlyrick

Again I agree everyone should be available for a trade no matter who they are. No one should be safe. In that case players will play harder and want to stay. For me one guy like Nelson can be traded. Very streaky player takes stupid penalties and his defensive play has been lacking. Also with all these prospects they all can not play on this team there is no room for them. I say lets get something done and enough of GArths little babies and move forward. This team has been stuck in neutral for way to long

The thing is...Sakic doesn't need to come back to earth. He can put his feet up and tell everyone that the price is the price, take it or leave it. Duchene has plenty of term left, isn't a problem, and is a really, really good player. He's under no pressure to move him. If he caves on Duchene's price he should be fired on the spot.

Unrelated:

Arthur StapleVerified account‏@StapeNewsday 1m1 minute ago

Sounds like Clutterbuck may skate tomorrow. Cizikas could be longer term. No official word from #Isles until AM skate tomorrow.
- eichiefs9

I agree. I'm looking at it from the Isles side though. I'm fine if a deal cannot be made with Sakic. Go get someone else. Garth cannot fall for just one guy like with Stamkos.