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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 4:56 PM ET
I actually like the Avs D.

Zads - Wiercoch - Barberio - Bigras on the left side.

Barrie - Johnson on the right side.

Maybe they can snatch up another right side guy from CAR and shoot Beauchemin to the moon.

- Feds91Stammer


Barberio and Nieto I thought were good pick ups. I would say they should trade Beauchemin but who would fill in his spot with injuries?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
Barberio and Nieto I thought were good pick ups. I would say they should trade Beauchemin but who would fill in his spot with injuries?
- Codes1087

Who gives a (frank) about this season. Call Bigras up and get him some more time.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 4:59 PM ET
Who gives a (frank) about this season. Call Bigras up and get him some more time.
- Feds91Stammer


they should sell. Its been something I have wanted the Canucks to do since 2012 but have had zero luck. I still think they should keep Duchene. He is so much better than Landeskog it's not even funny. Stay firm on the asking price for Landeskog and build around Duchene.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:08 PM ET
they should sell. Its been something I have wanted the Canucks to do since 2012 but have had zero luck. I still think they should keep Duchene. He is so much better than Landeskog it's not even funny. Stay firm on the asking price for Landeskog and build around Duchene.
- Codes1087

I trust Arik Parnass.
rantanana
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 02.10.2017

Feb 21 @ 5:38 PM ET
Not a troll post, so please no backlash. But you have to sit back and start evaluating your management. Not the be-all-end-all of anything, but you look at the prospects in the Avs organization, and who outside of Jost stands out? Rantanen will be a good player for you guys, so will Jost, but its pretty thing thereafter. Some questionable roster moves for rentals and you have to think that maybe the problem stems back to the GM...
- Codes1087



Colorado has a good amount of quality prospects, they aren't all blue chippers like Jost but guys like Greer, Compher, Bigras and Martin are all looking very promising, and are going to go a long way in improving the Avs depth which is clearly the biggest issue with the team.

I don't really see trading for Boedker as a huge detriment to the team last year,sure we're probably going to regret it in 3-4 years when Wood maybe lives up to his potential and becomes a top 4 Dman.

We needed a top 6 forward and got one for relatively cheap, sure he didn't help us improve in certain areas that definitely needed improving but Colorado was a playoff team last year until the last 10 games of the season when they lost both Duchene and Mackinnon at the end of the year and really fell off.

we've got a lack of depth right now in large part due to the Sherman era where every 2nd first round pick ended up being a bust ( RIP Hishon/Bleackley) as well as mostly not drafting very well in the deeper rounds, losing Stastny for nothing hurt a lot and trading O'Reilly created a hole, I like the pieces we got but it was a move that set us back a couple of years but i'm liking all of the pieces we got out of it.

Sakic/ management is not the problem, have patience and enjoy hanging on to borderline mediocrity under Jim"throw in a a 2nd"Benning.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 5:44 PM ET
Colorado has a good amount of quality prospects, they aren't all blue chippers like Jost but guys like Greer, Compher, Bigras and Martin are all looking very promising, and are going to go a long way in improving the Avs depth which is clearly the biggest issue with the team.

I don't really see trading for Boedker as a huge detriment to the team last year,sure we're probably going to regret it in 3-4 years when Wood maybe lives up to his potential and becomes a top 4 Dman.

We needed a top 6 forward and got one for relatively cheap, sure he didn't help us improve in certain areas that definitely needed improving but Colorado was a playoff team last year until the last 10 games of the season when they lost both Duchene and Mackinnon at the end of the year and really fell off.

we've got a lack of depth right now in large part due to the Sherman era where every 2nd first round pick ended up being a bust ( RIP Hishon/Bleackley) as well as mostly not drafting very well in the deeper rounds, losing Stastny for nothing hurt a lot and trading O'Reilly created a hole, I like the pieces we got but it was a move that set us back a couple of years but i'm liking all of the pieces we got out of it.

Sakic/ management is not the problem, have patience and enjoy hanging on to borderline mediocrity under Jim"throw in a a 2nd"Benning.

- rantanana


I have bought into the fact that we are still 3 or 4 years away from competing, it would be foolish for me to think otherwise. Had we torn it down properly in 2012/13 like we should have, maybe we would be further ahead, but its out of my hands. Benning has been awful with including picks in his trades, but his trades have not been awful. Sutter has been mediocre at best, Granlund trade has been great, Gudbranson has been hurt, and we have 4 players in the top 40 (who aren't currently in the nhl) on Buttons recent list. Its a slow process, but patience is definitely key, no need for the hostility friend I am not trying to piss you off.

Avsrchamps01
Joined: 06.27.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:57 PM ET
I have bought into the fact that we are still 3 or 4 years away from competing, it would be foolish for me to think otherwise. Had we torn it down properly in 2012/13 like we should have, maybe we would be further ahead, but its out of my hands. Benning has been awful with including picks in his trades, but his trades have not been awful. Sutter has been mediocre at best, Granlund trade has been great, Gudbranson has been hurt, and we have 4 players in the top 40 (who aren't currently in the nhl) on Buttons recent list. Its a slow process, but patience is definitely key, no need for the hostility friend I am not trying to piss you off.
- Codes1087


Canucks fans and Red Wings fans don't really piss us off anymore. Now Wild fans...whoa!
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 21 @ 5:59 PM ET
A six D seems about average.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
And David Pastrnak and Nik Ehlers would be an insane upgrade over drafting Virtanen right now as well? Are you really that sensitive? With the Johnson injury, and now Zadorov, is it really unfair to say that Wood would be nice to have right now? I am not trolling, and pride myself on the fact that I don't troll. I try and engage with hockey talk from all fanbases. Regardless, I apologize if it came across that way, but it was not my intent.

As far as Wood's skating, the Canucks can attest to this as well. We have had multiple multiple prospects be deemded project players due to poor skating, but they have completely had 180's when gone to pro/AHL. I think players have more to gain in their development in the pro's than they do in junior, would you agree?

- Codes1087


Its just a stupid thing to say. A guy the Avs traded who is projected to be a fringe NHLer, even though is having a good offensive season in the AHL as a rookie, isnt the answer

Avs need Top 4 Dmen, not a guy who is going to play 10 mins a night in the NHL if he ever makes it based on his inability to actually skate. He can't skate in the AHL but he isnt being exposed by a stronger talent pool which the NHL would have.

If you dont see how its a dumb thing to say then you are trolling and looking for attention, not talking hockey
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 6:08 PM ET
I trust Arik Parnass.
- Feds91Stammer


I do too, they still have to undo the blunders of the Roy influenced Sakic era, now its time to move to the Smart hockey minds surrounding Sakic hockey era
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
Its just a stupid thing to say. A guy the Avs traded who is projected to be a fringe NHLer, even though is having a good offensive season in the AHL as a rookie, isnt the answer

Avs need Top 4 Dmen, not a guy who is going to play 10 mins a night in the NHL if he ever makes it based on his inability to actually skate. He can't skate in the AHL but he isnt being exposed by a stronger talent pool which the NHL would have.

If you dont see how its a dumb thing to say then you are trolling and looking for attention, not talking hockey

- DDM-Coga


lol Coga you sure can dish it in the other Canadian market threads but sure have a hard time taking it. I have already apologized for offending you, it was not my intent, but I still stand by my statement, its too bad Wood wasn't with you guys because I would think he would probably be getting a call right now, hindsight is 20/20 though. Anyway, moving on...
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
Canucks fans and Red Wings fans don't really piss us off anymore. Now Wild fans...whoa!
- Avsrchamps01


haha two teams that are trending in the wrong direction unfortunately.
Avsrchamps01
Joined: 06.27.2012

Feb 21 @ 6:18 PM ET
haha two teams that are trending in the wrong direction unfortunately.
- Codes1087


The rivalry with Detroit died down a long, long time ago.
Once Bertuzzi left Vancouver, that kind of evaporated as well. I just hate the Wild now. I don't care who wins the cup, just not them.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 6:18 PM ET
lol Coga you sure can dish it in the other Canadian market threads but sure have a hard time taking it. I have already apologized for offending you, it was not my intent, but I still stand by my statement, its too bad Wood wasn't with you guys because I would think he would probably be getting a call right now, hindsight is 20/20 though. Anyway, moving on...
- Codes1087


I can take it with the best of them, but when I am calling you out for a dumb thing to say, and 90% of the people on her are agreeing with it, you might have to agree with it and stop defending the idea.

Not offending, just calling it how it is. If Kyle Wood was with the rampage, he would be in the ECHL right now bc he would be getting torched every night, hes not excelling bc hes an AHL gift from God, hes putting up points being on a good development team, with a pretty solid AHL D core and not the last place Rampage
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 6:20 PM ET
I can take it with the best of them, but when I am calling you out for a dumb thing to say, and 90% of the people on her are agreeing with it, you might have to agree with it and stop defending the idea.

Not offending, just calling it how it is.

- DDM-Coga


I must have missed the mob...

Anyway, lets agree to move on?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 6:21 PM ET
I must have missed the mob...

Anyway, lets agree to move on?

- Codes1087


Trade me Hutton
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
I can take it with the best of them, but when I am calling you out for a dumb thing to say, and 90% of the people on her are agreeing with it, you might have to agree with it and stop defending the idea.

Not offending, just calling it how it is. If Kyle Wood was with the rampage, he would be in the ECHL right now, hes not excelling bc hes an AHL gift from God, hes putting up points being on a good development team, with a pretty solid AHL D core and not the last place Rampage

- DDM-Coga


I quoted you too quickly it seems. Honestly Coga, I have had many discussions with you in the past, and I don't think we have ever had anything other than good hockey discussions. I will concede if it means we can move on.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 6:23 PM ET
Trade me Hutton
- DDM-Coga


Give me Zadorov
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 6:26 PM ET
Give me Zadorov
- Codes1087


bobby mac (I think) said canucks might look at moving Hutton for fwd help up front
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 6:28 PM ET
bobby mac (I think) said canucks might look at moving Hutton for fwd help up front
- DDM-Coga


it makes sense. Other teams see what he can do (rookie year) and see he is having a sophomore slump year (buy low) and are going after a young D man with potentional who is protected. Makes sense for 29 other teams.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 21 @ 6:47 PM ET
bobby mac (I think) said canucks might look at moving Hutton for fwd help up front
- DDM-Coga


Are you hinting that we will trade him for Jost?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 7:11 PM ET
Are you hinting that we will trade him for Jost?
- SRam19


I have it the opposite, I need boeser and Jost to be on the Avs together. I need that to happen more than I need air
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 21 @ 7:16 PM ET
I have it the opposite, I need boeser and Jost to be on the Avs together. I need that to happen more than I need air
- DDM-Coga


aight Duchene it is then.
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Feb 21 @ 8:05 PM ET
aight Duchene it is then.
- SRam19


Fine. Duchene for Boeser and Juolevi.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM ET
Fine. Duchene for Boeser and Juolevi.
- westonie


Jost and boeser on the same team would be fun. Thats why we will take jost for hutton and a 2nd (classic benning)
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