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Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 2:38 PM ET
SIMMONDS

- Squilliam-

Like he said... that's fantasy land!!
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Lol, well, yeah, 5 minutes after that,BT came on to say that he had been having discussions with Arizona since the summer...

I am fairly sure they aren't done yet, but what will be interesting to see is what the costs end up being over the next week or so. Can they move Wideman out? Will they bring in a legit top 6 winger? Is it just bit parts that they acquire (depth moves)?

IMO, I think we see another depth move or two with no major splash before the deadline, Flames walk away with most of their NHL roster intact and there are no takers for Wideman.

Moves I would like to see made (fantasyland) before March 1

Wideman, a protected 1st (17 or 18) and Klimchuk/Shinkaruk to the Flyers for Simmonds (and yeah, maybe something or a couple of somethings extra)

Send 2018 2nd to the Lightning for Brian Boyle

Call up Andersson

Shift Bennett to the wing on Boyle's line.

New lines:

Gaudreau Monahan Simmonds
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik
Bennett Boyle Brouwer
Ferland Stajan Hathaway
13th forward Bouma/Chiasson

Gio Hamilton
Brodie Stone
Bartkowski Engelland
7th D Kulak
8th D Andersson

ride Elliott and Johnson through the end of this year

- rmull905



I doubt Simmonds is for sale. If he was I'd think he'd be able to fetch more than even Landeskog (at least I'd probably pay more).


Also just noticed that the Flames made a spelling mistake when the tried to send Bouma to Stockton. They accidentally spelled his name Hathaway.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'll be happy if he can give us 12 minutes a night with no big turnovers . Don't want him in the top 4 if we can help it.

Dealing both JJ and Widedog would be an early Christmas for me

- Saskabush


Hard to get over how much affordable playoff depth we have to offer..

Here are the cap hits of our sellable assets at the deadline:

Stone: .500
Joki: .250
Versteeg: .250
Wideman: 1.25
Elliott: .625

Even before salary retention, those are friendly numbers for GMs. 1 mill cap hit for the top three? Pitts and Boston are in need of playoff depth pretty bad.. Hell, even Chicago could handle .250 mill for Versteeg.


We play both Nashville and LA before the TDL. We lose both, and I say we sell.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 3:02 PM ET
I doubt Simmonds is for sale. If he was I'd think he'd be able to fetch more than even Landeskog (at least I'd probably pay more).


Also just noticed that the Flames made a spelling mistake when the tried to send Bouma to Stockton. They accidentally spelled his name Hathaway.

- Saskabush


Agreed, he is very likely not on the market, but if you are Philly and sense a re-tooling on the horizon, he would be a starting point that would get you a ton of value. And if he does hit the market, it probably causes the Avs to rethink their (so far) ludicrous demands.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
I doubt Simmonds is for sale. If he was I'd think he'd be able to fetch more than even Landeskog (at least I'd probably pay more).


Also just noticed that the Flames made a spelling mistake when the tried to send Bouma to Stockton. They accidentally spelled his name Hathaway.

- Saskabush

Probably just a paper move & he hasn't even stepped on the plane, probably playing Xbox back in Calgary until the next trade goes down.
BobHartley
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 09.10.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
I think it is a good trade, and worth a try.

Stone just recently came off knee surgery and hasn't looked the same since.

I personally think the talent is there to succeed. Plus, he'll look a lot better playing with TJ Brodie.

If all else fails, I still think he's better than Wideman.
Flames in 6 04
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.15.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
Probably just a paper move & he hasn't even stepped on the plane, probably playing Xbox back in Calgary until the next trade goes down.
- Kevin R



Stockton has lost 10 in a row. I imagine they are hoping he'll breath a little life into team over a couple of games. He makes plays that gets his team fired up.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:31 PM ET
Stockton has lost 10 in a row. I imagine they are hoping he'll breath a little life into team over a couple of games. He makes plays that gets his team fired up.
- Flames in 6 04


1-11-1 in their last 13
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
go (frank) yourself with all your landy talk
Flames in 6 04
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.15.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
1-11-1 in their last 13
- fry



They started off so well this year too.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Feb 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
Yall need to quit touting Stone as a top 4 d man cause he's not. Still happy they got him though. Fills a hole. I love filling holes.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
go (frank) yourself with all your landy talk
- DDM-Coga

Dude it's a foregone conclusion... he's gone like yesterday.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 4:59 PM ET
Yall need to quit touting Stone as a top 4 d man cause he's not. Still happy they got him though. Fills a hole. I love filling holes.
- The-O-G

I agree at this point since his injury he has struggled but there's a reason he got paid 4M per...
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
go (frank) yourself with all your landy talk
- DDM-Coga


Avs eye Benning and Weisbrod as Sakic's replacement (e4)


We'll have Landeskog and Duchene in no time. We'll just have to offer up some fringe NHLers that Weisbrod was involved in selecting!

Janko
Poirier
Klimchuk
Tspoon
Kulak

for

Duchene
Landeskog

That should clean up all the players left from 2011-13 drafts that they'd want. I don't know who you guys will trade to Vancouver to get Baert and Granlund though...




johnnybanana
Calgary Flames
Location: calgary
Joined: 02.07.2014

Feb 21 @ 5:09 PM ET
Last year's draft is looking like a steal for us. Tkachuk being an obvious steal, button just released a list of the best players not playing in the NHL yet with parsons ranked 12th overall (2nd best goalie, one spot down from samsonov). Fox is 3rd in all ncaa scoring for dmen. He's 2 points back from tying the leader, but has played six games less.
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

Feb 21 @ 5:39 PM ET
Like he said... that's fantasy land!!
- Clyde334


wow I really didn't think we'd see the day Wideman was out
The fact that he's been playing mostly in the top 4 and not the bottom pairing has made me believe either the coach is blind and really likes Wideman or he was being forced to play him more by the GM to increase his tradeability

I was sure that acquiring Stone just mean that Kulak, Joki would never see another game. I assumed that Stone and Bart would battle for that "6th spot"
I mean Wideman was continuously played on the 2nd pairing ALL YEAR even when it made no sense and was plain to EVERYONE that he was dragging poor Brodie to the bottom of the ocean!!!!!!!!
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 21 @ 6:36 PM ET
Avs eye Benning and Weisbrod as Sakic's replacement (e4)


We'll have Landeskog and Duchene in no time. We'll just have to offer up some fringe NHLers that Weisbrod was involved in selecting!

Janko
Poirier
Klimchuk
Tspoon
Kulak

for

Duchene
Landeskog

That should clean up all the players left from 2011-13 drafts that they'd want. I don't know who you guys will trade to Vancouver to get Baert and Granlund though...





- Saskabush


Dont you guys miss Feaster.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:19 PM ET
Bartman & Stoner!
ScotsonFire
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.18.2013

Feb 21 @ 8:11 PM ET
Ferland making the most of his opportunity!
ScotsonFire
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.18.2013

Feb 21 @ 8:33 PM ET
Elliot playing dodgeball with the puck
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM ET
There is at least one team interested in acquiring Dennis Wideman....
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM ET
Yesss! Bennett wrecked Johansen.. woooo
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM ET
Brutal 2nd period. Gotta be better with the lead.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 21 @ 10:01 PM ET
Brutal 2nd period. Gotta be better with the lead.
- dr_soiledpants



That was disgusting. Why wasn't elliott pulled
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Feb 21 @ 10:04 PM ET
That was disgusting. Why wasn't elliott pulled
- Squilliam-


Not entirely his fault. Some pretty awful giveaways there.
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