Franson isn't a "depth" guy IMO. I feel like he'd be a waste as a 7th both financially and talent-wise.

I'm definitely not against Odyua, but can't imagine how Engelland fits into this system.

I think Quincey brings a little element of everything.
- Rinosaur

Options are thin out there for rentals. So I just looked at lower standings teams and picked the decent ones about to be ufas.

I'm sure GMJR will do whats best for the team. If he thinks its Quincey I'm all for it. I dont know enough about his play to know if he'd be a scheme fit. At this point beggars cant be choosers.

Not with Maatta on LTIR.

No to Engo, dude is (frank)in awful and Oduya is meh.
- j.boyd919

I think "meh" is ok when considering a 7th. You're going to be hard-pressed to find "wow" with a guy who's gonna be a 7th otherwise he'd probably be more than a 7th, you know what I mean?

Not with Maatta on LTIR.

No to Engo, dude is (frank)in awful and Oduya is meh.
- j.boyd919

Not many options out there right now.

I think "meh" is ok when considering a 7th. You're going to be hard-pressed to find "wow" with a guy who's gonna be a 7th otherwise he'd probably be more than a 7th, you know what I mean?
- Rinosaur

I guess it all matters what you consider a decent 7th D-man. I thought Rob Bortuzzo was a decent to good 7th D-man. If his contract 3 year weren't over a mil a year I'd say try getting him back.

If you want Smith, you're welcome to him! Ericsson Jr.
- Hockeytown4life

This guy has no idea what he is talking about.

What about Kyle Quincey?
- Rinosaur

- Feds91Stammer

Adding quality to the discussion as usual. You really make talking hockey fun.

Adding quality to the discussion as usual. You really make talking hockey fun.
- Rinosaur

Quincey can't skate anymore. He was very meh when he could skate.

Quincey can't skate anymore. He was very meh when he could skate.
- Feds91Stammer

He is very meh. He's a slightly below average possession player, but again, what can you really expect out of a 7th dman?

A guy who's average or above in possession or points is not necessarily a "depth" guy. As good as guys like Ruhwedel have been, I'd feel more comfortable with Quincey jumping in to the bottom pair in case of injury. Plus he's cheap.

I think "meh" is ok when considering a 7th. You're going to be hard-pressed to find "wow" with a guy who's gonna be a 7th otherwise he'd probably be more than a 7th, you know what I mean?
- Rinosaur

Oh I know haha, that's why I wasn't to thrilled. Depends on the cost. I'm really only about acquiring players that are going to make the team better. And I don't think acquiring bad players or below average players just for depth makes the team better.

Everyone was obsessed with thinking of ways to get Shatty. I'd prefer Justin Faulk. He would cost more but is a better return long term. Both are a pipe dream IMO.

There's a big difference when you're shopping for "depth" vs. someone who will be in the lineup regularly.

Quincey, Odyua, Liles, Smith, Stone... none of these are players the Pens would want as a regular and most teams wouldn't either if they had other options, but again, shopping for depth is a different story.

Oh I know haha, that's why I wasn't to thrilled. Depends on the cost. I'm really only about acquiring players that are going to make the team better. And I don't think acquiring bad players or below average players just for depth makes the team better.
- j.boyd919

Well, would you rather Ruhwedel or Quincey?

While Quincey doesn't make the team better, I don't think he makes them worse per-se. You also never really know how a certain player is going to fit into the system. Lovejoy isn't exactly a good skater, but he fit into the system pretty well.

Everyone was obsessed with thinking of ways to get Shatty. I'd prefer Justin Faulk. He would cost more but is a better return long term. Both are a pipe dream IMO.
- Zac_O

Picking up Shattenkirk, while definitely improving the team, would cost more than it's worth. Plus you'd now have to find a way to move Daley out of the lineup.

Well, would you rather Ruhwedel or Quincey?

While Quincey doesn't make the team better, I don't think he makes them worse per-se. You also never really know how a certain player is going to fit into the system. Lovejoy isn't exactly a good skater, but he fit into the system pretty well.
- Rinosaur

If Quincey sucks you can put Ruhwedel back in and you're just out what? A mid round pick or a meh prospect.

There's a big difference when you're shopping for "depth" vs. someone who will be in the lineup regularly.

Quincey, Odyua, Liles, Smith, Stone... none of these are players the Pens would want as a regular and most teams wouldn't either if they had other options, but again, shopping for depth is a different story.
- Rinosaur

I have to disagree with one of those names, I think Smith could possibly carve out a spot in the lineup regularly in Pittsburgh. The rest, yeah they're all blah. Pens just need to use DP as depth. He's better than most of those depth acquisitions anyways.

Picking up Shattenkirk, while definitely improving the team, would cost more than it's worth. Plus you'd now have to find a way to move Daley out of the lineup.
- Rinosaur

Thats assuming everyone is healthy. This is the pens we are talking about. haha

There's a big difference when you're shopping for "depth" vs. someone who will be in the lineup regularly.

Quincey, Odyua, Liles, Smith, Stone... none of these are players the Pens would want as a regular and most teams wouldn't either if they had other options, but again, shopping for depth is a different story.
- Rinosaur

Smith should not be included in that group.

I have to disagree with one of those names, I think Smith could possibly carve out a spot in the lineup regularly in Pittsburgh. The rest, yeah they're all blah. Pens just need to use DP as depth. He's better than most of those depth acquisitions anyways.
- j.boyd919

No argument from me on DP, but he seems to be done as a Penguin IMO. I'm not sure why they just haven't moved him yet.

Thats assuming everyone is healthy. This is the pens we are talking about. haha
- Zac_O

Very true.

If Quincey sucks you can put Ruhwedel back in and you're just out what? A mid round pick or a meh prospect.
- Zac_O

But what is the point of giving up any asset for Quincey when Oleksy, Gaunce, Warsofsky, Ruhwedel, and DP are all just as good or better?

But what is the point of giving up any asset for Quincey when Oleksy, Gaunce, Warsofsky, Ruhwedel, and DP are all just as good or better?
- Feds91Stammer

Fair points.

But what is the point of giving up any asset for Quincey when Oleksy, Gaunce, Warsofsky, Ruhwedel, and DP are all just as good or better?
- Feds91Stammer

Same with Oduya, Kulikov, etc. too

Personally, I think the only move the Pens should be looking to do is MAF if they can. Other than that, only real hockey moves should be made.

Same with Oduya, Kulikov, etc. too
- j.boyd919

Yeah and they will have a much higher price than Quincey.

Smith is definitely the Pens best option imo. He can legitimately play 2nd pair minutes.