If that rumor is true they should be moved ASAP

If the Sabres had an offer for risto,Sam for Matthews and passed smh
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The Leafs offered us Matthews for Risto & Sam?
I didn't hear that
I like Matthews A LOT...
but our defense would be a disaster without Risto
Look at what happened with the Oilers
I think Risto is on the same level of untouchable as Jack

The Leafs offered us Matthews for Risto & Sam?
I didn't hear that
I like Matthews A LOT...
but our defense would be a disaster without Risto
Look at what happened with the Oilers
I think Risto is on the same level of untouchable as Jack
- jdfitz77

Agreed. You would win the trade and end up a worse team. Leafs would also end up worse so its a lose-lose.

All fair points... and i never said that Cornel & Karabacek were good picks just saying i can see the reasoning behind why he drafted them over a D.
I'm also bias on looking back at old drafts and saying we shouldve taken player x over player Y. Drives me insane to say something after years go by. Unless youre in the top 15ish..a lot of thing falls on the teams they development on and luck.
- yen6d1

I know what ya mean as far as hindsight goes
for me though...
those 2 defensemen were graded as 1st rounders
and we had recently picked a lot of forwards high
and were low on defensive prospects

Reaching for forwards when there was a bargain on defensemen at that point just seemed stupid to me

The Leafs offered us Matthews for Risto & Sam?
I didn't hear that
I like Matthews A LOT...
but our defense would be a disaster without Risto
Look at what happened with the Oilers
I think Risto is on the same level of untouchable as Jack
- jdfitz77

No no no I was just saying "if"

But you wouldn't do the trade knowing the success of Matthews right now?

I would put them on Jacks wing and have a Crosby line lol

I saw Nugent Hopkins out muscle him his last year in Buffalo. What does that tell you? Still...his value was higher than that.
- Larsson_fan

I saw Lucic get out muscled by the SAT's.

Last year whould have been a good tank year. Matthews and Laine are nice weapons

Last year whould have been a good tank year. Matthews and Laine are nice weapons
- lulags

If only they lost three more games

And all I can think is what morons the kids are who chose to follow that elephant up a wet slide in the first place...
- BeadyEyedDouche

If only they lost three more games
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I blame chad johnson

I blame chad johnson
- homiedclown

T.O. Blames Chad Johnson, too for not getting in the HoF.

I saw Lucic get out muscled by the SAT's.
- sbroads24

Yeah, when your team has Lucic, Kassian and Gryba it sure drags down the average IQ of the team...not to mention how ugly, to a man the Oilers are. Those 3 cavemen plus that alien looking Jesse Pullijarvi?

I know what ya mean as far as hindsight goes
for me though...
those 2 defensemen were graded as 1st rounders
and we had recently picked a lot of forwards high
and were low on defensive prospects

Reaching for forwards when there was a bargain on defensemen at that point just seemed stupid to me
- jdfitz77

100% see that side of it. Just saying I can see why they went that way and Hindsight they couldve drafted Dvorak ...

And regarding the D.. usually there's a reason those 2 slid out of the first round into the late second.

I blame chad johnson
- homiedclown

I blame Brian Gionta

Yeah, when your team has Lucic, Kassian and Gryba it sure drags down the average IQ of the team...not to mention how ugly, to a man the Oilers are. Those 3 cavemen plus that alien looking Jesse Pullijarvi?
- Larsson_fan

Laine looks more like an Alien IMO.

I blame chad johnson
- homiedclown

He played so well he cost us 2 of the better picks in the last 5-6 years and as a reward TM dumps him

Theyre all good players...but add up the assets GMTM gave up to get them and tell me you wouldnt spend them a bit differently.

Now its one thing when you have assets to spare , but right now the well is dry.
- Larsson_fan

of the group of players, picks and prospects, no forward projects as high as o'reilly and with the way kane's playing, maybe not even him either

He played so well he cost us 2 of the better picks in the last 5-6 years and as a reward TM dumps him
- lulags

this

of the group of players, picks and prospects, no forward projects as high as o'reilly and with the way kane's playing, maybe not even him either
- Michael Pachla

I wouldnt say those assets should or would have developed into better players, just saying as a whole they could bring back more. The RoR deal was a win, the Kane deal a brutal loss and Lehner price was too high.

Tell me what else you can move right now to upgrade the defence without creating a hole in the line up?

He played so well he cost us 2 of the better picks in the last 5-6 years and as a reward TM dumps him
- lulags

He did not drop him he wanted to go home

All I know I wish we could get back in time and take leon

All I know I wish we could get back in time and take leon
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Well no poop?!?

Well no poop?!?
- Larsson_fan

Tough picking an 18yr old and knowing how they will turn out.

Well no poop?!?
- Larsson_fan

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Hahaha this is amazing

Tough picking an 18yr old and knowing how they will turn out.
- cabin

We can basically say they won 5 first overall picks now lol