Man Kuhn is the 4th liner we have been waiting for. Trade fehr already

Pathetic pp is pathetic

Sproul and Tatar must be sh!tty skaters

Did Geno get an assist in that goal for taking that dipstick penalty?

Murray needs to save that. F Fleury.

ye sid and murray are a poop show tonight

ye sid and murray are a poop show tonight
- martox

Sid chased the puck carrier when he should have been in front of the net.. no need for 3 guys to be down low like that.

C'mon. A Steve Ott backhand? Really, Murr?

So many damn stoppages in that period.

You mean the experts who say Schultz is playing exactly how he did in Edmonton? His charts are pretty much the same, proving he is the player that the numbers said he was...
- j.boyd919

So what you're saying is that advanced stats don't tell the whole story??

ye sid and murray are a poop show tonight
- martox

Pens are mailing it in today.

Pens are mailing it in today.
- Rinosaur

think sid pretty much gave up on the point race after the cbj game. he doesn't care about being the best anymore.

that was an ugly period for Geno and Letang. I think 58 got the ast, but man..he is turning the puck over a lot so far.

You mean the experts who say Schultz is playing exactly how he did in Edmonton? His charts are pretty much the same, proving he is the player that the numbers said he was...
- j.boyd919

Why are you comparing his first 2 years in Edmonton against his last 2 years plus his time in Pittsburgh ?

So what you're saying is that advanced stats don't tell the whole story??
- Rinosaur

... wut?

Why are you comparing his first 2 years in Edmonton against his last 2 years plus his time in Pittsburgh ?
- willi

taleisyreXIII asked for a side by side comparison of his EDM years vs time in PIT.

... wut?
- j.boyd919

... wut?
- j.boyd919

Schultz, despite having similar advanced stats, is more effective somehow in the Pens system.

Schultz, despite having similar advanced stats, is more effective somehow in the Pens system.
- Rinosaur

If the stats are the same or similar... how's that "more effective" He's exactly the same. He is the player he was in Edmonton. The advanced statistics being the same just reconfirm that... he is benefitting from playing on a better team and racking up some pp points. But he's not "more effective." He's the same player.

taleisyreXIII asked for a side by side comparison of his EDM years vs time in PIT.
- j.boyd919

But you're not comparing the 2. You're comparing Edm years vs. Edm+Pitt years....unless I'm reading it wrong ?

But you're not comparing the 2. You're comparing Edm years vs. Edm+Pitt years....unless I'm reading it wrong ?
- willi

The 2nd chart is heavily weighted to this season. Dom doesn't have one with just the past 2 years or this season.

Helluva shot, helluva stop.

finally found out who mrazek is. his real name is mr hazek

If the stats are the same or similar... how's that "more effective" He's exactly the same. He is the player he was in Edmonton. The advanced statistics being the same just reconfirm that... he is benefitting from playing on a better team and racking up some pp points. But he's not "more effective." He's the same player.
- j.boyd919

Because if you only pay attention to advanced stats you're not getting the whole story. Advanced stats are still flawed.

Watching him play you can see all the things he does that makes him so effective. He doesn't play exactly the same as he did in EDM. He much more aggressive in both ends of the ice than he was in EDM.

Is he surrounded by better players? Of course, but that doesn't mean he hasn't improved areas of his game.

Because if you only pay attention to advanced stats you're not getting the whole story. Advanced stats are still flawed.

Watching him play you can see all the things he does that makes him so effective. He doesn't play exactly the same as he did in EDM. He much more aggressive in both ends of the ice than he was in EDM.

Is he surrounded by better players? Of course, but that doesn't mean he hasn't improved areas of his game.
- Rinosaur

I watched him in Edmonton. He's the same player. He's benefitted from not playing top line minutes, having competent D partners. And competent forwards. Advanced statistics are a record of what happened. They aren't "flawed." The way people analyze them is what causes flaws. Dude is the same player. Thriving in a lesser role. Pretty simple to see.