Psst..you're all (frank)ing morons. You vote for a red tie or blue tie and are convinced that the other team is wrong about EVERYTHING.
- hunglikeapuck

At least we did not get that lying biotch Crooked Hillary Country now has a chance

He's better than Ovechkin but he's not as good as Gretzky.

What you call the biased left-wing media is what any sane, intelligent, moral, mature, adult person calls the media. People who disagree with you, especially when they use facts and science, are not 'biased.'
- james_tanner1

Problem is they never deal in FACTS. The Clintons lied their entire political career. Remember Billy boy saying I did not have sex with that woman. Hill and Bill True HILLBILLY

This is an argument you can never win or lose. Beating the dead horse: it's a different era and it's a different game.

Now, do I think Sid is as good as Gretz or Mario? No, but I don't think he's far off. I think he's as close to as any player since the Mario/Wayne era.

Going back and watching old Mario and Gretz highlights, you can see it wasn't just that the game was slower or the players weren't as big, but they just did things that were other-worldly.

This is an argument you can never win or lose. Beating the dead horse: it's a different era and it's a different game.

Now, do I think Sid is as good as Gretz or Mario? No, but I don't think he's far off. I think he's as close to as any player since the Mario/Wayne era.

Going back and watching old Mario and Gretz highlights, you can see it wasn't just that the game was slower or the players weren't as big, but they just did things that were other-worldly.
- Rinosaur

This is all true, but Mario literally changed the way hockey was played, Mid 90's left wing lock/trap.... and the idea of bigger talented players... Mario is 6.5... Crosby is 5.11 ... Wayne listed at 5.10 .... That's 2 ways he revolutionized hockey... I'm not sure you can say the same for Crosby or Gretzky...

If Chabot and White can step in and be impact players I think they won't be too far off from being contenders. Stone has continued to improve and Dzingel has been a pleasant surprise. Worried about the expansion draft as I feel like they will probably lose Wideman who is having a solid season at both ends of the ice. I'd honestly prefer if they protected him over Ceci but I don't think management will have the balls to make that call.
- SENS 613

True, you guys have plenty to work with in building a contender. I think White will be one of those guys that's mature beyond his years and should be an immediate leader, both had great WJC showings. I shouldn't knock the Sens and their management just yet, until we see how they utilize said talent in the future. Here's to a Canadian team raising the cup soon.

Crosby is great, but he's not Mario. Mario was literally unstoppable... almost 700 goals in 900 games (Many played with serious injury/post cancer or retirement)... If he had a prime we re talking 1000 goals plus... The Devils literally developed the left wing lock to deal with him and considered it a success when they held him to a point or two a night. No one was as talented as Mario (including Gretzky, who yes had a better career)...
- Brianandr1

Sheer physical talent yes, no one was like Lemieux. Maybe Forsberg or Lindros but they were still a tier below.

Gretzky had on-ice vision that hasn't been seen since.

Sheer physical talent yes, no one was like Lemieux. Maybe Forsberg or Lindros but they were still a tier below.

Gretzky had on-ice vision that hasn't been seen since.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Anyone old enough to truly remember Gretzky should agree with this 100%!

This is all true, but Mario literally changed the way hockey was played, Mid 90's left wing lock/trap.... and the idea of bigger talented players... Mario is 6.5... Crosby is 5.11 ... Wayne listed at 5.10 .... That's 2 ways he revolutionized hockey... I'm not sure you can say the same for Crosby or Gretzky...
- Brianandr1

He scored anywhere from 50-90 goals his first 8 years and over 200 pts frequently...and you feel teams didn't try to play him differently?

He scored anywhere from 50-90 goals his first 8 years and over 200 pts frequently...and you feel teams didn't try to play him differently?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Don't argue with idiots. It's pointless... See James's conversations, and you have enough proof to impeach the lot of them.

Anyone old enough to truly remember Gretzky should agree with this 100%!
- habman75

It's well documented. Gretz wasn't the greatest skater, was smaller and not physical and did not have a great shot. He saw the game about 10 steps ahead of everyone else.

Problem is they never deal in FACTS. The Clintons lied their entire political career. Remember Billy boy saying I did not have sex with that woman. Hill and Bill True HILLBILLY
- holeinone

I can't tell if you are 12 or (frank)in 86. Derp.

While I understand to a point, I just don't get why people think they have a right to dictate what they read or come into contact with.

Because they do. It's a pretty basic right, actually.

This isn't some blog for you to process your feelings. It's a service industry. You put out content, and people "pay" you with clicks and views, which are monetized via ad revenue. When people tell you stay away from politics, they are giving you feedback on what service they are willing to continue "paying" for.

It's the height of arrogance to think you are going to expose people to something they haven't heard before, and even worse to think you have the credibility that you saying something will hold more weight than actual political commentators. People see everything you say elsewhere. They come to talk sports when they are tired of that. If you can't provide them a space to, I'm sure someone else will.

"I have an M.A; I literally spent 6 years becoming a professional researcher"

. This is a far-right crazy person whose opinion on everything is extreme and pretty much stupid. I don't read or watch anything that would usually have this guy on. I'd only heard of him in the context of how horrible he is.

So your saying your a professional researcher, who doesn't do research. I would think to have an opinion on something, reading or watching about the subject would be an important start. Keep up the good work.

He scored anywhere from 50-90 goals his first 8 years and over 200 pts frequently...and you feel teams didn't try to play him differently?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

How you or I feel is not the issue! Wayne Gretzky is one of the all-time greats! That is not the issue! But, Revolutionized the game???? I provided two examples that are clear and straight forward! Did teams change the way they played the way they did for Mario? I don't see it! In addition James Tanner has stated on multiple occasions that Mario was the most talented ever (Including Gretzky)... Wayne was amazing, best career no question... but Mario was another level

At least one of the games edm played against ottawa was unquestionably the most boring and painful game of the season.
The other time we met the sens was probably in the top 5 worst as well.

He often doesn't even bother attempting to rush the puck carrier.
Just clogs the sh1t outta the neutral zone and hope for a turnover.
Lame

For sure he's as good as gretz or Lemieux


Put him that era and I'll bet he scores at a comparable rate


The game is exponentially better and tougher to score in today. It's not even close actually

Says someone who lives in a TOTAL entitlement state
- holeinone

Lmao....you're really not good at this political argument thing are you?

WTF does it matter where I live? I could live in N Dakota & still think you're delusional if you think Trump is a good (& ethical) President....but hey, keep talking out of your keester if it makes you feel good about yourself.

It's just common sense.....something that Trump supporters such as yourself sorely lack.

Psst..you're all (frank)ing morons. You vote for a red tie or blue tie and are convinced that the other team is wrong about EVERYTHING.
- hunglikeapuck

This!!!


Insane absolutist ideologues



No middle. No critical thinking. Just catch phrases and a distaste for anything that might hint of the other sides ideals. Regardless of it has any merit


Libtard!
Commie


Fascist!
Bible thumpers!!



Lame

For sure he's as good as gretz or Lemieux


Put him that era and I'll bet he scores at a comparable rare


The game is exponentially better and tougher to score in today. It's not even close actually
- HB77

Taking away how much more difficult it is to score in today's NHL, do you think that a way to judge the two players against each other would be to compare how well they did against other players during their era?

Gretzky had a string of Art Ross trophy's while Crosby only has two. In my opinion, that shows how much more "generational" Gretzky was.

I might not be articulating this as well as I like.

Lmao....you're really not good at this political argument thing are you?

WTF does it matter where I live? I could live in N Dakota & still think you're delusional if you think Trump is a good (& ethical) President....but hey, keep talking out of your keester if it makes you feel good about yourself.

It's just common sense.....something that Trump supporters such as yourself sorely lack.


- Team_Teal

He did The same yesterday.
Ranted a few times about commies and liberals and then wrote down a few nonsense right wing catch phrases thinking these were logical and well thought out points.
Then a few people gave him some statistics and exposed his mistakes.

So instead of rationally rethinking his stance or perhaps adjusting his views, he just doubled down on the mindless rhetoric .

It's crazy how many blind followers there are out there

Taking away how much more difficult it is to score in today's NHL, do you think that a way to judge the two players against each other would be to compare how well they did against other players during their era?

Gretzky had a string of Art Ross trophy's while Crosby only has two. In my opinion, that shows how much more "generational" Gretzky was.

I might not be articulating this as well as I like.
- rmiethaner

Hmm

Interesting point. Never thought about it like that.
And yeah, you were fine. Made sense.

The first retort That comes to mind is that there are so many players at such a high level nowadays. Which might potentially make it tougher to win consecutive art Ross's year after year

MINUS: The idea that any smart or intelligent person can sit there and say that any idea that challenges their beliefs is fake, biased, or repeated by "sheep." I have an M.A; I literally spent six years learning how to become a professional researcher. I know how to discern truth from lies. The people who accuse me of not being able to are barely literate.

Look this is for hockey not your political views, way to blow your own horn and talk about your M.A . So because you spent 6 years learning to become a Profesional researcher you're never wrong? What a pompous fool you are, you can discern the truth from lies OK am I lying or telling the truth when I say you're awesome? Expressing ones point of view is fine, but if it's politics then take it to a political site. Most people come here to talk hockey and get away from all the crap we are inundated with dailey. It's not a bad thing to look at issues from the other side but this isn't the place for it. On a hockey note if Crosby played in the 80s all things the same he would dominate, but it's also why you can't compare, today's athletes train all year round and back then it was a cigarette and beer post game for half the guys.

Hmm

Interesting point. Never thought about it like that.
And yeah, you were fine. Made sense.

The first retort That comes to mind is that there are so many players at such a high level nowadays. Which might potentially make it tougher to win consecutive art Ross's year after year
- HB77

Take Gretzky out of the equation, and you would say the same thing about when he played. The only thing that makes it seem like there are so many players at such a high level nowadays is the fact that there is no one head and shoulders above them, the way Gretzky was in his time.

Says someone who lives in a TOTAL entitlement state
- holeinone

8 of the top ten "entitlement" states are red.

And you've been banging this California drum for two days. But you're still wrong.

California is in the bottom 10 of entitlements as a proportion of their revenue. 42nd to be exact.

Is this like your thing? Just keep ranting and facts be damned ?

If "trigger" happy social justice warriors that don't believe in free speech are the ones who make lefties look bad, it's mindless name callers and ideologues line you that make the right look awful