I think Miller will be gone and a cheap back up with experience will be signed. Demko gets the starting job in Utica.
- manvanfan

I'll laugh if next season Miller is a flames and Elliott is a Canuck

Are you on the hooch? Benning does not think there is a chance
- CanuckDon

The Canucks aren't HB


I am sure Daniel Hank Alex Bo Jannik Willie and Jim are not sitting around wondering if they can tank to get a higher draft pick.


Don't get me wrong . I am not hoping or thinking playoffs ,but I am sure the Canucks are looking at it a lot differently than you and me.

We are going to lose someone. I'm sure no team is going to go into the draft thinking that they aren't going to lose anyone that they wouldn't want to try and keep.

I am aware that Hutton doesn't need to be protected. If you send 2 players that need to be protected without getting any in return (Sbisa and Hansen), I doubt Pitt is going to go for that. You get Hagelin who needs to be protected for Hansen. Hutton doesn't need protection, cheap contract, young player. Van then can let's Hagelin be unprotected and hopefully taken. Trade a Defencemen who needs to be protected in a different trade. For a late first round pick in a weaker draft and a top prospect who no one knows if he can even play in the NHL.
- manvanfan

Yes we are going to lose someone. Just don't understand your proposal for keeping Sbisa and Hansen to trade after expansion? Or taking Hagelin to lose? Though Pens won't part with roster players. They are going for the Cup. Are short on forwards and D with injuries.

I'll laugh if next season Miller is a flames and Elliott is a Canuck
- Redmile247

Noreen doesn't like rodeos cowboy hats or frozen tundras

I am saying Markstrom gets traded after expansion draft. I think Canucks go with this tandem for the rest of the year.
- VANTEL

Oh...yes, they will. If they don't believe in Markstrom they should trade him to Dallas or Calgary in the summer

If he trades who? He can't trade Miller. So who are speaking about?
- CanuckDon

He can't?

Hansen or Burrows or both
- Retinalz

Burrows will be moved for sure if there is an offer. HAnsen will be tough. We basically have a Vrbata situation on our hands

Burrows will be moved for sure if there is an offer. HAnsen will be tough. We basically have a Vrbata situation on our hands
- CanuckDon

I doubt it. Most teams that are bottom could still trade for him as he has another year, and most bottom teams can protect him.

Scott Wilson and 3rd round pick

For

Hansen

If you just look at the stats don't bother commenting... but if you actually have watched Wilson then please do so. Hansen would usually be of higher value but the expansion does lower his value a tad. He does have a trade clause so that limits the options. But even that being I would go through with the trade and expose Hagelin thereafter.

He can't?
- belcherbd

No. He doesn't want to move Benning can't force him. There also isn't a market for Miller. Unless, Quick isn't coming back

Yea... youre talking Shattenkirk most likely at that point
- nelson911

So they could trade for Hutton and Hansen be able to protect both for a 1st and top end prospect OR for a player they won't be able to sign? Wow that's good business. Then Lose someone in the expansion draft and need to replace them by trading more picks?

Burrows will be moved for sure if there is an offer. HAnsen will be tough. We basically have a Vrbata situation on our hands
- CanuckDon

agreed.

i don't buy the argument that if JB doesn't make trades, it's because he thought we'd make the playoffs.

it's a bit more difficult to make trades than that.

I think he'll try to move some players, but that doesn't mean it will happen.

I doubt it. Most teams that are bottom could still trade for him as he has another year, and most bottom teams can protect him.
- Retinalz

He just bought a house and has a young kids. He doesn't want to leave. He can't be forced. The ball is in Hansens court not Bennings

Yes we are going to lose someone. Just don't understand your proposal for keeping Sbisa and Hansen to trade after expansion? Or taking Hagelin to lose? Though Pens won't part with roster players. They are going for the Cup. Are short on forwards and D with injuries.
- Nuck4U

Would you rather lose Hansen for nothing? This year is different, it's also about the future.

So they could trade for Hutton and Hansen be able to protect both for a 1st and top end prospect OR for a player they won't be able to sign? Wow that's good business. Then Lose someone in the expansion draft and need to replace them by trading more picks?
- manvanfan

Its a loaded situation. Shattenkirk is a superior player... maybe even worth more than the both combined and I do actually like Hansen and Hutton.

If the Pens acquire Shattenkirk, Maata could be on the move and resigning isnt so bad then.

No. He doesn't want to move Benning can't force him. There also isn't a market for Miller. Unless, Quick isn't coming back
- CanuckDon

Anaheim?

Scott Wilson and 3rd round pick

For

Hansen

If you just look at the stats don't bother commenting... but if you actually have watched Wilson then please do so. Hansen would usually be of higher value but the expansion does lower his value a tad. He does have a trade clause so that limits the options. But even that being I would go through with the trade and expose Hagelin thereafter.
- nelson911

Do you think Van is going to take on someone who needs to be protect, that they could lose for a 3rd round pick when they could just trade Hansen for a 2nd probably.

agreed.

i don't buy the argument that if JB doesn't make trades, it's because he thought we'd make the playoffs.

it's a bit more difficult to make trades than that.

I think he'll try to move some players, but that doesn't mean it will happen.
- dbot

Bullpoop, GM's jobs are to make trades not come up with excuses.

The sooner he starts trying the better chance he has at making a deal, the longer he waits the more teams are now selling as well. I'm sure depending on where we are he will start trying to make trades but its on him if we are in a similar situation as last year.

I expect that he will end up making some deals, there was too much bad press from last year and he would t want a repeat of that.

Anaheim?
- belcherbd

Perhaps. I like Gibson. Bring in a $6MM backup? I suppose it's possible but very unlikely given his salary, his NTC and his desire not to move. The Canucks will likely eat part of Burrows cap hit as well.

Bullpoop, GM's jobs are to make trades not come up with excuses.

The sooner he starts trying the better chance he has at making a deal, the longer he waits the more teams are now selling as well. I'm sure depending on where we are he will start trying to make trades but its on him if we are in a similar situation as last year.

I expect that he will end up making some deals, there was too much bad press from last year and he would t want a repeat of that.
- belcherbd

Exactly what part of his post isn't accurate? He is talking to teams already. His trade assets control their own fate so it's entirely possible that no trades happen

Ty Rattie back on waivers.

Possible trade scenarios given team needs and JB concerns over Vegas. It's not about tanking or playoffs at this TDL. Canucks as sellers doing asset management. But JB will only pull trigger for value based on what he might accept. Just as easy one or none happens below.

Hansen to: Rangers, Caps or Pens for a 1st. ( teams on his 8 team list that make sense)

Sbisa to: Pens 1st. Oilers second. Leafs second.

UFA rentals: If JB values picking up a pick over resigning and mentoring team development this season.

Burrows to: Habs, Pens, Rangers, Caps for second. Sharks 3rd. ( Canucks must keep money for deal)

Miller: 5 team list. Maybe Kings take him for 3rd for tandem. Ducks possible for 4th as insurance. Canucks keep money. Least likely possibility and most likely no deals. Miller's other 3 would be teams that don't want him at all.

Do you think Van is going to take on someone who needs to be protect, that they could lose for a 3rd round pick when they could just trade Hansen for a 2nd probably.
- manvanfan

That depends if they think Wilson is tempting enough over say Sbisa for the expansion.. obviously teams want safeguards and a 2nd rounder would be safer... will see what he goes for... I hope Vancouver gets something decent. Sbisa is an attractive option for a Vegas top 4 D spot when the options out there are limited.

That depends if they think Wilson is tempting enough over say Sbisa for the expansion.. obviously teams want safeguards and a 2nd rounder would be safer... will see what he goes for... I hope Vancouver gets something decent.
- nelson911

Van can only protect 3 D and have 4 that are worth protecting. Van needs to get rid of 1 D and 1 F to protect everyone. The same as most teams. When making a trade really have to consider whether or not the other team is willing to lose them in the expansion draft. Take a bad contract back and get a higher end pick or prospect or don't take one back and get a lower pick it seems.

Exactly what part of his post isn't accurate? He is talking to teams already. His trade assets control their own fate so it's entirely possible that no trades happen
- CanuckDon

The part where Benning isn't culpable if they don't end up making trades.... I'm sure it isn't as easy as I suggest but it's his job to get it done. I'm tired of excuses, real or imagined.