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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 18 @ 9:01 PM ET
I think it would be a decent line
- VANTEL

I've never known you to be serious
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 9:01 PM ET
I know right. Yet still 50th in scoring.

The more I look at previous drafts, even I over stepped my love for the draft. Increases my love for JB drafting ability.

- manvanfan

I think everyone, including me, overstates Bennings ability to draft. He's put one player thru the draft in our current lineup, three years, and, he's passed on some players that are having some success at the NHL level.

When/if more kids make it, and make an impact at the NHL level, then I'll give him his due credit.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 9:03 PM ET
....................

I still fail to see how Bennett is even relevant in a conversation that Edmonton was lucky Buffalo passed on Draisaitl at number two and he fell to them at number three??

- LeftCoaster


Prospect rankings at the time had Draisaitl further down.
Oilers were smart to pick him. Buffalo saw Reinhart over Bennett.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 9:06 PM ET
Prospect rankings at the time had Draisaitl further down.
Oilers were smart to pick him. Buffalo saw Reinhart over Bennett.

- Nighthawk

So you agree, Oilers were lucky to get him
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 9:08 PM ET
I think everyone, including me, overstates Bennings ability to draft. He's put one player thru the draft in our current lineup, three years, and, he's passed on some players that are having some success at the NHL level.

When/if more kids make it, and make an impact at the NHL level, then I'll give him his due credit.

- LeftCoaster



We may be overstating JB drafting skill but idc about other players picked by other teams who r not in the PO's nor cup contenders. Any player that slides & does well was passed by more teams than just us. All that matters to me is picks take teams to another level & so far very few have done that. Recently McDavid Draisaitl have done that. Others eg MacKinnon Droiun etc have not done so.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 9:09 PM ET
So you agree, Oilers were lucky to get him
- LeftCoaster


Somewhat yes but he was no mystery at 3OA.
Astute pick for need indeed👍👍
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 18 @ 9:14 PM ET
I think everyone, including me, overstates Bennings ability to draft. He's put one player thru the draft in our current lineup, three years, and, he's passed on some players that are having some success at the NHL level.

When/if more kids make it, and make an impact at the NHL level, then I'll give him his due credit.

- LeftCoaster

If you can get one player per draft be more then a 4th liner, probably a win. 210 players drafted a year and JB gets 7 picks. Usually means 20 other GMs have failed also.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 9:17 PM ET
If you can get one player per draft be more then a 4th liner, probably a win. 210 players drafted a year and JB gets 7 picks. Usually means 20 other GMs have failed also.
- manvanfan

That's just a complete cop out! When you've picked 5th & 6th overall you sure as (frank) better have a better person in charge than simply hoping for a 4th liner. Jeezuz!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 9:22 PM ET
I think everyone, including me, overstates Bennings ability to draft. He's put one player thru the draft in our current lineup, three years, and, he's passed on some players that are having some success at the NHL level.

When/if more kids make it, and make an impact at the NHL level, then I'll give him his due credit.

- LeftCoaster



You're basing this all on JV's struggles? Does Mcann count?

Guess next season we will know more. Like you said drafting and developing takes time. BB, OJ, JV on deck. Guadette....? Brisbois...? All gamers but where will they be at given what team has open.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 18 @ 9:22 PM ET
That's just a complete cop out! When you've picked 5th & 6th overall you sure as (frank) better have a better person in charge than simply hoping for a 4th liner. Jeezuz!
- LeftCoaster

That's not a cop out. How many people do you think play a game in the NHL from every draft year? People fail with picking 1OA, it happens to every team. You need to relax.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 18 @ 9:23 PM ET
You're basing this all on JV's struggles? Does Mcann count?

Guess next season we will know more. Like you said drafting and developing takes time.

- Nuck4U

He forgot about Tryamkin and Forsling. 4 guys from one draft year have played in the NHL.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 9:28 PM ET
That's not a cop out. How many people do you think play a game in the NHL from every draft year? People fail with picking 1OA, it happens to every team. You need to relax.
- manvanfan

I'm basing my reaction on picking high two out of three drafts. Benning had a better opportunity than 25 and 24 other teams to pick the best kids in the world. I don't know if kids like Boeser, Demko, Juolevi etc. will be good nhlers, but I damn well hope so.

Not enough time has gone by to say definitively that he's a good drafter.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 18 @ 9:33 PM ET
I'm basing my reaction on picking high two out of three drafts. Benning had a better opportunity than 25 and 24 other teams to pick the best kids in the world. I don't know if kids like Boeser, Demko, Juolevi etc. will be good nhlers, but I damn well hope so.

Not enough time has gone by to say definitively that he's a good drafter.

- LeftCoaster

I agree with that. 23 other teams passed on Pastrnak.
100 picks were passed by Viktor Arvidsson
160 players picked before but are worse then Kevin LeBlanc.

See what i'm saying? Drafting 1OA or 175OA it's tough.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
All we can wish for is prospects make us a much more competitive team & not be wasted like many teams do. Our prospect pool is better than we have ever known.
JB has done fine so far but how they do in the NHL we will have to wait n see.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 9:40 PM ET
I'm basing my reaction on picking high two out of three drafts. Benning had a better opportunity than 25 and 24 other teams to pick the best kids in the world. I don't know if kids like Boeser, Demko, Juolevi etc. will be good nhlers, but I damn well hope so.

Not enough time has gone by to say definitively that he's a good drafter.

- LeftCoaster



Nor enough time to say he is not. JV is hardly a bust at 20. As for other draftees they look to be legit good picks. To date no GM in Canuck history has drafted better. Other than Quinn picking Bure when he found the 20th game that is.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
Currently Colorado is -76 in Goal Differential.

Worst 2 I found over the past years was Buffalo at -113 and someone else same year at -102.

Colorado going to get that low?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
Nor enough time to say he is not. JV is hardly a bust at 20. As for other draftees they look to be legit good picks. To date no GM in Canuck history has drafted better. Other than Quinn picking Bure when he found the 20th game that is.
- Nighthawk



What?? He's drafted three times lol.

Burke drafted two 1000 point players, Kesler, Bieksa, Rutuu, Allen, Umberger and Jason frickin King

And further to that, Nonis said himself when was hired in 2004 he didn't have any time to prep for the 2004 draft so he stuck with his buddy Burke's list, which means you can credit Burke with Schneider, Hansen, Edler and Brown.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
Nor enough time to say he is not. JV is hardly a bust at 20. As for other draftees they look to be legit good picks. To date no GM in Canuck history has drafted better. Other than Quinn picking Bure when he found the 20th game that is.
- Nighthawk

Not saying JV is a bust but he better figure out how to play professional hockey. Drafting 18 year old can be a crap shoot, some dominated in junior only to find out there's lots of players with just as much talent It's the ones that learn what it takes to be a professional that succeed.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:05 PM ET
Not saying JV is a bust but he better figure out how to play professional hockey. Drafting 18 year old can be a crap shoot, some dominated in junior only to find out there's lots of players with just as much talent It's the ones that learn what it takes to be a professional that succeed.
- K-man25


Gaudreau is Schremp v2.0
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
Gaudreau is Schrempt v2.0
- Scooby_Doo

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
Pat Quinn is the only Canuck player autograph I ever got, way back in 1971.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
Pat Quinn is the only Canuck player autograph I ever got, way back in 1971.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Nice....I've got autographed memorabilia but never a live autograph.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
Gaudreau is Schremp v2.0
- Scooby_Doo

Ouch
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
it's saturday night. must be another Leaf ceremony.
- storm88


Bump
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 18 @ 10:16 PM ET
Pat Quinn is the only Canuck player autograph I ever got, way back in 1971.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Went to Barry Wilkins Canuck summer hockey camp in Cowichan, got to talk with Charlie hodge quite a bit.
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