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Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 20 @ 10:47 AM ET
Too much for any team to give up, plus having to sign him to an extension of maybe upward of $7-8m per
We may agree to disagree but a foolish team will pony up that offer ......
If that was the case of an offer, maybe a team would have done it already..??

- Ur Not Me

I think teams are lowballing him. Sakic will take the best deal offered to him but hes going to wait till the last minute i think. Isles can afford the 1st and even hammer or dehaan /hickey but they are going to insist upon pulock or barzal. I'd give up beau or mdc or ho sang.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
Too much for any team to give up, plus having to sign him to an extension of maybe upward of $7-8m per
We may agree to disagree but a foolish team will pony up that offer ......
If that was the case of an offer, maybe a team would have done it already..??

- Ur Not Me


I'd love to know what it would take to get Landes. He would seem to fit the Isles needs nicely.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:51 AM ET
I'd love to know what it would take to get Landes. He would seem to fit the Isles needs nicely.
- ses111



On NHL network or somewhere, i heard that for either player would have to start w/Hamonic in a package.... So take that for what its worth ....
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
On NHL network or somewhere, i heard that for either player would have to start w/Hamonic in a package.... So take that for what its worth ....
- Ur Not Me

see ya travis sorry buddy
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:53 AM ET
I think teams are lowballing him. Sakic will take the best deal offered to him but hes going to wait till the last minute i think. Isles can afford the 1st and even hammer or dehaan /hickey but they are going to insist upon pulock or barzal. I'd give up beau or mdc or ho sang.
- Upstate_isles


I dont think so, i just think Sakic is asking for moon to save his bacon..

Car offered Faulk straight up for Duchene which is a good hockey trade for both teams bc of need, just like Nashville/Columbus trade last year....
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:54 AM ET
If the Isles got Duchene, do you think the Isles have the proper wings to work with Duchene? They still seem to have too many setup players.
- ses111

I think Duchene is good enough that he can elevate his wings, like Tavares but obviously he's not quite as good as Johnny.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:54 AM ET
see ya travis sorry buddy
- Upstate_isles


I have no issue with moving Travis.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
Too much for any team to give up, plus having to sign him to an extension of maybe upward of $7-8m per
We may agree to disagree but a foolish team will pony up that offer ......
If that was the case of an offer, maybe a team would have done it already..??

- Ur Not Me

No I think we are actually agreeing mostly, to be honest.

Yes, that price may be too much for another team (inc. us) to give up, but Sakic getting back anything less than that would be a big failure for his organization. It comes down to "how badly do you want him"? If there's a team out there that covets Duchene enough to pony up something at-or-similar to that asking price then they'll do it. If nobody wants to pay that then Sakic can keep his really, really good player and that's that.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
I'd love to know what it would take to get Landes. He would seem to fit the Isles needs nicely.
- ses111

Well by all accounts, the Islanders don't have much interest in Landeskog. As far as I'm concerned, he's just a young Andrew Ladd. He's a nice player, don't get me wrong, but adding another two-way LW that has mediocre offensive production is kind of redundant.

Duchene carries the added benefit of speed/excellent skating, which is an element that this team lacks in it's skilled players.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:01 AM ET
Well by all accounts, the Islanders don't have much interest in Landeskog. As far as I'm concerned, he's just a young Andrew Ladd. He's a nice player, don't get me wrong, but adding another two-way LW that has mediocre offensive production is kind of redundant.

Duchene carries the added benefit of speed/excellent skating, which is an element that this team lacks in it's skilled players.

- eichiefs9


Do you think a deal around Hamonic and Nelson or Strome is too much for Duchene? I'm actually more impressed with Strome than Nelson. Strome plays with some passion.

You do worry about Landeskog wearing down over time with his style and his numbers seem to be dropping the last few years.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:05 AM ET
Do you think a deal around Hamonic and Nelson or Strome is too much for Duchene? I'm actually more impressed with Strome than Nelson. Strome plays with some passion.
- ses111

Strome is no-doubt having a resurgence under Weight so far. But, again, we've seen him play great for stretches before and then fall right back into not scoring and taking bad penalties.

I would imagine that moving him depends on whether or not they think that he is a better player under Doug Weight or they think that this is just another unsustainable peak in performance which will soon be followed by a deep trough.

Hamonic/Strome I could stomach, depending on whether or not anything else was included. Hamonic/Nelson is a steeper price. Not sure how I feel about it, but I probably wouldn't want to see anything else included in that deal if they made it. Even then I don't know. It's a tough call all around. I'm not sure Sakic would even be interested in Nelson/Strome.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 20 @ 11:06 AM ET
I think Duchene is good enough that he can elevate his wings, like Tavares but obviously he's not quite as good as Johnny.
- eichiefs9

yea like 100 plus points behind him in the same amount of time, however duchene wont see top pairing d either
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:06 AM ET
Well by all accounts, the Islanders don't have much interest in Landeskog. As far as I'm concerned, he's just a young Andrew Ladd. He's a nice player, don't get me wrong, but adding another two-way LW that has mediocre offensive production is kind of redundant.

Duchene carries the added benefit of speed/excellent skating, which is an element that this team lacks in it's skilled players.

- eichiefs9



I agree on Landes but he's a much better skater and can produce possibly more on different team. His highest goal total is 26 i believe and can add toughness with a reasonable salary for another 4yrs i think

He'd be a good addition but someone like Lee may have to be expandable bc all 3 players a very similar except for skating aspects .....
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 20 @ 11:09 AM ET


Great movie. I think I'll just post movies since my musical taste is not appreciated.

- ses111


It's Dr. Rosenpenis. Thought that spleen was my dead brother's.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:10 AM ET
I agree on Landes but he's a much better skater and can produce possibly more on different team. His highest goal total is 26 i believe and can add toughness with a reasonable salary for another 4yrs i think

He'd be a good addition but someone like Lee may have to be expandable bc all 3 players a very similar except for skating aspects .....

- Ur Not Me

Yeah he's better than Ladd is for sure, but all-in-all I don't see his services as a skill-set that the Islanders are sorely lacking. I'd rather shoot for the moon than add another 2nd line winger that will score 50ish points per season. His goal totals have been declining over the last few years and he is on pace to continue that trend. Not a knock to the guy, but I just see other players (namely Duchene) as filling much more pressing needs and would prefer they maximize the use of whatever trade-able assets they have.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 20 @ 11:12 AM ET
I don't think Barzal is going anywhere. I fear that Pulock may be. It's a shame Bean, McAvoy, or Fabbro didn't fall to us in the draft last year or else we could have afforded to part with a really good defensive prospect.

I suspect Snow is probably trying to sell Sakic on someone like Mitch Vande Sompel or Parker Wotherspoon, who are on a great development trajectory but aren't as well known as a first rounder like Pulock.

- eichiefs9

If Snow trades Pulock I'll lose my shat.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:18 AM ET
If Snow trades Pulock I'll lose my shat.
- Cptmjl

I'm just afraid Snow is going to overcompensate for his lack of doing-anything in the past. I hope it doesn't show itself in the form of a terrible trade.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 20 @ 11:20 AM ET
Strome is no-doubt having a resurgence under Weight so far. But, again, we've seen him play great for stretches before and then fall right back into not scoring and taking bad penalties.

I would imagine that moving him depends on whether or not they think that he is a better player under Doug Weight or they think that this is just another unsustainable peak in performance which will soon be followed by a deep trough.

Hamonic/Strome I could stomach, depending on whether or not anything else was included. Hamonic/Nelson is a steeper price. Not sure how I feel about it, but I probably wouldn't want to see anything else included in that deal if they made it. Even then I don't know. It's a tough call all around. I'm not sure Sakic would even be interested in Nelson/Strome.

- eichiefs9


Two established players even seems too much. One NHL player + picks or prospect would be easiest to stomach. They're in last place and the desperate partner in the trade. I think Nelly & Strome BOTH deserve a longer look. Would rather see Lee over. Nelson. I know Lee is playing very well with JT but so is Bailey. Brock is 4pts behind Lee and NOT on JT's line. He has a filthy wrister whereas Lee cleans up a lot of garbage and is easier to replace. Hamonic & Strome would be ok, if no other trade bait gets it done.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:21 AM ET
It's Dr. Rosenpenis. Thought that spleen was my dead brother's.
- jmo16




Such a classic movie. Even the 2nd movie. Peter Lemongello Your house is on fire.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:23 AM ET
I'm just afraid Snow is going to overcompensate for his lack of doing-anything in the past. I hope it doesn't show itself in the form of a terrible trade.
- eichiefs9


You really have to worry about Garth doing someone crazy just to shut everyone up about never making a deal. I would not give up much beyond Hamonic/ Strome Hamonic/Nelson. I have no problem waiting until the summer to make a big trade.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 20 @ 11:25 AM ET
Two established players even seems too much. One NHL player + picks or prospect would be easiest to stomach. They're in last place and the desperate partner in the trade. I think Nelly & Strome BOTH deserve a longer look. Would rather see Lee over. Nelson. I know Lee is playing very well with JT but so is Bailey. Brock is 4pts behind Lee and NOT on JT's line. He has a filthy wrister whereas Lee cleans up a lot of garbage and is easier to replace. Hamonic & Strome would be ok, if no other trade bait gets it done.
- jmo16

Nelson over lee?????? Lee has all goals not assists 22 vs 13 and lee tips and screens on the pp nelson is a perimeter player. lee also stands in front and creates havoc, sorry lee is second most important forward after jt

On Claude Julien....
Elliott Friedman reported the Canadiens moved so fast on Julien because another team was also already talking to him. I have been asking around and the general belief is that team as the NY Islanders.

and heres todays music

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:38 AM ET
EK had the Habs moving fast on Julien because the Isles may have been talking to him?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:42 AM ET
Nelson over lee?????? Lee has all goals not assists 22 vs 13 and lee tips and screens on the pp nelson is a perimeter player. lee also stands in front and creates havoc, sorry lee is second most important forward after jt

On Claude Julien....
Elliott Friedman reported the Canadiens moved so fast on Julien because another team was also already talking to him. I have been asking around and the general belief is that team as the NY Islanders.

and heres todays music


- Upstate_isles


Bad job Julien. He already coached the Habs. Should have went to the Isles if it's true they even talked to him.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
While I'd like to see Duchene in an Islanders uniform I'd be suprised if Snow makes a big trade especially if it involves either prospects he drafted or a first round pick. I think he goes after someone like Vrbata from Arizona. How about Patrick Eaves from Dallas? Having a good year and is on a one-year deal. Can also play RW which Islanders need...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
While I'd like to see Duchene in an Islanders uniform I'd be suprised if Snow makes a big trade especially if it involves either prospects he drafted or a first round pick. I think he goes after someone like Vrbata from Arizona. How about Patrick Eaves from Dallas? Having a good year and is on a one-year deal. Can also play RW which Islanders need...
- kear20

Staple believes it's unlikely the Islanders target either of Radim Vrbata or Martin Hanzal of the Arizona Coyotes. Instead, he thinks Anthony Duclar would make more sense if the Islanders and Coyotes were to come together on a deal.

http://www.tsn.ca/countdo...-crunch-in-tampa-1.675790
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