Only Rielly and Zaitsev should be kept on D.

As I said a couple days ago, the Leafs have better options on the farm then playing Ben Smith.
- LeafMan

Yep and thats on the coaching staff...

You can female dog and moan all you want about the refs but this loss is on Babcock, he continues to make bad descions game after game.
- LeafMan

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Kristen Shilton‏ @kristen_shilton
Asked Babs about B. Smith post-injury today: "His intangibles are more than his skill set, so until he gets up to speed it's harder for him"


This worries me.

Only Rielly and Zaitsev should be kept on D.

As I said a couple days ago, the Leafs have better options on the farm then playing Ben Smith.
- LeafMan

Rough game for gardiner again tonight. He is either really good or terrible. It's a yo-yo with him.

Some bad breaks too in this one. Last couple games actually.

The Leafs are only 7 points out of last in the conference

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Kristen Shilton‏ @kristen_shilton
Asked Babs about B. Smith post-injury today: "His intangibles are more than his skill set, so until he gets up to speed it's harder for him"


This worries me.
- burn

intangibles you say? should've kept clarkson! too bad his back is dead

how many times can gardiner shoot the puck in the forechecker while having the puck at blueline????
- MaximusAurelius

It is just (frank)ing CONSTANT. At least twice a game.

You would think he would learn one (frank)ing thing and be able to execute it.

The Leafs are getting regularly (frank)ed over by the worst refereeing I ever remember seeing, but they lost tonight because their defense is abysmal, they are very young and are nowhere near playing an actual coherent system.

I just don't see them as a playoff team. As the real playoff teams pick up their games, the Leafs are 18-wheeling it.

I know he's only a 4th liner, but sending the Goat down because he was playing good was the start of the slide. Kinda sends the wrong message. Goat>Smith and it's not even close.

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Kristen Shilton‏ @kristen_shilton
Asked Babs about B. Smith post-injury today: "His intangibles are more than his skill set, so until he gets up to speed it's harder for him"


This worries me.
- burn

I think that's what red wings fans said too about Babcock. He makes some strange calls with people he likes.

The Leafs are only 7 points out of last in the conference
- daeth

It is reachable.

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Kristen Shilton‏ @kristen_shilton
Asked Babs about B. Smith post-injury today: "His intangibles are more than his skill set, so until he gets up to speed it's harder for him"


This worries me.
- burn

Yep...Questionable..

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Kristen Shilton‏ @kristen_shilton
Asked Babs about B. Smith post-injury today: "His intangibles are more than his skill set, so until he gets up to speed it's harder for him"


This worries me.
- burn

Agreed.


I love Babs, but this is one thing that I can't understand.

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Kristen Shilton‏ @kristen_shilton
Asked Babs about B. Smith post-injury today: "His intangibles are more than his skill set, so until he gets up to speed it's harder for him"


This worries me.
- burn

yikes

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Kristen Shilton‏ @kristen_shilton
Asked Babs about B. Smith post-injury today: "His intangibles are more than his skill set, so until he gets up to speed it's harder for him"


This worries me.
- burn

Someone has to tell Babcock, enough is enough with Smith. The hell with the expansion draft, play the better players.

You have Froese who works his ass off in the minors and you have Gauthier who showed he belongs.

Rough game for gardiner again tonight. He is either really good or terrible. It's a yo-yo with him.

Some bad breaks too in this one. Last couple games actually.
- bryant

maybe so, but you make your own breaks.

They are a team with a few good pieces, a couple of which are excellent, and nothing more.

Someone has to tell Babcock, enough is enough with Smith. The hell with the expansion draft, play the better players.

You have Froese who works his ass off in the minors and you have Gauthier who showed he belongs.
- LeafMan

Yep thats a crock..and the GM claiming players of waivers and Babs totally ignoring is another fuk around that needs to stop..

It's been getting too Habby in here lately.
- daeth

It feels that way to complain about the refs, but it has honestly become ridiculous.

intangibles you say? should've kept clarkson! too bad his back is dead
- daeth

He was junk before, got injured and now he's not up to speed and is getting steamrolled. Why the (frank) is he out there.

nah i've complained about the reffing too, it's just we're going a little too crazy with it right now. the reffing is not helping the leafs but it's their poor play overall that is the real cause of all these losses.
- daeth

I'm going to say this one time.... everyone always tells Leafs fans that they shouldn't complain about the Kerry Fraser/Gretzky thing back in 92-93. Well that little bit of "poor judgement" on the part of Fraser prevented Canadian hockey fans from having a cup final with the Leafs versus the Habs. One bad, blatantly weak chicken-shyte call like that can change a lot.

now none of these games that the Leafs have been losing matter much in the big picture... but horseshyte calls are horseshyte calls no matter what. how would you like a playoff game decided by an offside because some guys foot was 1/4 inch off the ice - or by a completely lame judgement on a goaltender interference call?

the point is not that the officiating has been biased... I don't believe it is biased at all. It has however been pretty crap recently. What the league should be worried about (rather than sales of LV jerseys) is cleaning this crap up before it gets to the playoffs.

When Vermette gets 10 games for a love tap on the leg of the linesman... and someone else gets 6 for intentionally spearing a guy in the face... you know they don't have their s___ in order.

What I'm finding is that the games are generally boring because there is little room for any passion in the games, and any momentum or intensity is drained by lame officiating.

I will say I like Hyman-Matthews-Nylander a lot better than Hyman-Matthews-Brown...

The Leafs are only 7 points out of last in the conference
- daeth

Tank for Patrick

Yep thats a crock..and the GM claiming players of waivers and Babs totally ignoring is another fuk around that needs to stop..
- Fruitcakenipple

That's how they got smith this year too. It's frustrating to watch knowing there is better players that can replace the baggage on the team now.

Yep thats a crock..and the GM claiming players of waivers and Babs totally ignoring is another fuk around that needs to stop..
- Fruitcakenipple

Funny, I got crapped on here a couple months ago when I questioned Babcock's coaching decisions, now people are seeng it. Lol.

I think that's what red wings fans said too about Babcock. He makes some strange calls with people he likes.
- bryant

Yup. Humwick and polak. Leivo looks like he should have Been a regular all year.

I'm going to say this one time.... everyone always tells Leafs fans that they shouldn't complain about the Kerry Fraser/Gretzky thing back in 92-93. Well that little bit of "poor judgement" on the part of Fraser prevented Canadian hockey fans from having a cup final with the Leafs versus the Habs. One bad, blatantly weak chicken-shyte call like that can change a lot.

now none of these games that the Leafs have been losing matter much in the big picture... but horseshyte calls are horseshyte calls no matter what. how would you like a playoff game decided by an offside because some guys foot was 1/4 inch off the ice - or by a completely lame judgement on a goaltender interference call?

the point is not that the officiating has been biased... I don't believe it is biased at all. It has however been pretty crap recently. What the league should be worried about (rather than sales of LV jerseys) is cleaning this crap up before it gets to the playoffs.

When Vermette gets 10 games for a love tap on the leg of the linesman... and someone else gets 6 for intentionally spearing a guy in the face... you know they don't have their s___ in order.

What I'm finding is that the games are generally boring because there is little room for any passion in the games, and any momentum or intensity is drained by lame officiating.
- BorjeFan4Ever

The only non call I will point out is the hold on Brown, which came after the refs called Kadri moments before, that's unacceptable.

Someone has to tell Babcock, enough is enough with Smith. The hell with the expansion draft, play the better players.

You have Froese who works his ass off in the minors and you have Gauthier who showed he belongs.
- LeafMan

Agreed