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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:04 PM ET
There would be no one posting period if you told these other idiots not to talk out of their ass. But no only say that to me because you disagree.
- Iggysbff


I would partially agree that Trouba would have been a better option than Larsson but you have no way of knowing it would have costed less than Hall. Every GM in the league knew how desperate we were and were waiting to go in dry.

If we make the playoffs and are in the market for another d-man this summer it would be safe to assume the price wouldn't be as dear as Hall. You let your Chiarelli hate cloud your vision.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
Taylor Hall has 37 points on the season and 37 hits. Lucic has 31 points on the season and 142 hits. I don't think the Oilers are too concerned about having Lucic over Hall, let alone the defence man they got in the trade who has 176 hits so far this season. So if anybody wonders why the Oilers are harder to play against, the 318 hits Larson and Lucic brought could be a good reason, let alone having Hall skate a hundred miles an hour up the ice and loose the puck and have the rest of the team have to turn around and retrieve the puck from their own end zone.
- Woowy

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
This was indeed the rumour. A left hand guy. I beleive it was Maxbone that even suggested Nurse for Trouba. That I would say is less than Hall.
- Iggysbff

Well if they wanted a defender, then less talent or not, they didn't want a forward.

And again, we don't know nurse was enough

But while I like Larsson. I'd most certainly rather Trouba
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
I would partially agree that Trouba would have been a better option than Larsson but you have no way of knowing it would have costed less than Hall. Every GM in the league knew how desperate we were and were waiting to go in dry.

If we make the playoffs and are in the market for another d-man this summer it would be safe to assume the price wouldn't be as dear as Hall. You let your Chiarelli hate cloud your vision.

- Reveen.


Lol. I hate Chiarelli because he continually makes bad move after bad move. Period. If and when he ever makes a good deal I will acknowledge it. I did say Maroon has turned out to be a very good move. And Sekera a good move. The rest are somewhere between poop and diarhhea.
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
This was indeed the rumour. A left hand guy. I beleive it was Maxbone that even suggested Nurse for Trouba. That I would say is less than Hall.
- Iggysbff

We all suggested that and if it was that simple I'm sure it would have been a done deal.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
Well if they wanted a defender, then less talent or not, they didn't want a forward.

And again, we don't know nurse was enough

But while I like Larsson. I'd most certainly rather Trouba

- HB77

Even Nurse plus for Trouba and we are still in better shape.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Feb 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
Taylor Hall has 37 points on the season and 37 hits. Lucic has 31 points on the season and 142 hits. I don't think the Oilers are too concerned about having Lucic over Hall, let alone the defence man they got in the trade who has 176 hits so far this season. So if anybody wonders why the Oilers are harder to play against, the 318 hits Larson and Lucic brought could be a good reason, let alone having Hall skate a hundred miles an hour up the ice and loose the puck and have the rest of the team have to turn around and retrieve the puck from their own end zone.
- Woowy


laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Feb 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
and you know this how ? stop talking out of your ass
- Reveen.


Iggy has the same sources as Eklund.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
So you think he only spoke with one other gm about a potential hall trade and didn't bother to talk to anyone else ?

U actually find that scenario easier to believe ?

- HB77


Considering the reaction around the league after both the Hall and Seguin trades, I'd say he didn't do much of a job of maximizing his asset, yes.
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:11 PM ET
Lol. I hate Chiarelli because he continually makes bad move after bad move. Period. If and when he ever makes a good deal I will acknowledge it. I did say Maroon has turned out to be a very good move. And Sekera a good move. The rest are somewhere between poop and diarhhea.
- Iggysbff

He has to get credit for the Talbot move despite the fact that Mac-T put the wheel in motion. Chia didn't have to close the deal on Talbot. I don't think he's perfect but he is far better than what we have had over the past 10 years.
Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 09.05.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:11 PM ET
Iggy has the same sources as Eklund.
- laughs2907


I5
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:14 PM ET
Iggy has the same sources as Eklund.
- laughs2907

Eklunds sources are same as mine I'm sure. Tsn, Sportsnet, CBC, Twitter...
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Feb 17 @ 4:18 PM ET
Eklunds sources are same as mine I'm sure. Tsn, Sportsnet, CBC, Twitter...
- Iggysbff


MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:25 PM ET
Considering the reaction around the league after both the Hall and Seguin trades, I'd say he didn't do much of a job of maximizing his asset, yes.
- BINGO!

On an aside, do you remember when you and I crafted a deal at the beginning of year of Yak for Pesce?
TheGiftofGod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.15.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:31 PM ET
Lol. I hate Chiarelli because he continually makes bad move after bad move. Period. If and when he ever makes a good deal I will acknowledge it. I did say Maroon has turned out to be a very good move. And Sekera a good move. The rest are somewhere between poop and diarhhea.
- Iggysbff


Kassian for Scrivens!!! That's poop!!!!

Getting Talbot? That's poop!!!!

Drafting quality defenseman? That's poop!!!!

Tyler Benson? He's poop!!!!

Signing Benning? poop!

Signing Jewels? SO poop.

Trading for the Swedish God Larsson? SO poopTY WE HAVE A TOP PAIRING DMAN.

Trading deadweight Yakupov for a 3rd to make room for a suprisingly useful Russell? poop.

Already amassing the points Edmonton had last season? poop.


You should really just stop.
TheGiftofGod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.15.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:33 PM ET
Even Nurse plus for Trouba and we are still in better shape.
- Iggysbff


No poop sherlock. How long did it take you to figure out trading a surplus position for an undermanned position is a good idea? Especially when the return player is better than the player we have now.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Feb 17 @ 4:34 PM ET
Kassian for Scrivens!!! That's poop!!!!

Getting Talbot? That's poop!!!!

Drafting quality defenseman? That's poop!!!!

Tyler Benson? He's poop!!!!

Signing Benning? poop!

Signing Jewels? SO poop.

Trading for the Swedish God Larsson? SO poopTY WE HAVE A TOP PAIRING DMAN.

Trading deadweight Yakupov for a 3rd to make room for a suprisingly useful Russell? poop.

Already amassing the points Edmonton had last season? poop.


You should really just stop.

- TheGiftofGod


Chia is so good

I want to see him pour oil all over his head and rub it all over Iggy's naked body.
TheGiftofGod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.15.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
My friend somehow thinks Montreal is so much better than Edmonton, even though the stat line is virtually the same.

Same amount of Goals against, Same points, etc. Under-rates Edmontonsl's defense big time and it's annoying.
TheGiftofGod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.15.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
Chia is so good

I want to see him pour oil all over his head and rub it all over Iggy's naked body.

- laughs2907


"But he made the Reinhart for our first trade!!!"
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
On an aside, do you remember when you and I crafted a deal at the beginning of year of Yak for Pesce?
- MaximumBone



Yes. Not one of my brightest ideas.

I'm glad I'm not the GM.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
Kassian for Scrivens!!! That's poop!!!!

Getting Talbot? That's poop!!!!

Drafting quality defenseman? That's poop!!!!

Tyler Benson? He's poop!!!!

Signing Benning? poop!

Signing Jewels? SO poop.

Trading for the Swedish God Larsson? SO poopTY WE HAVE A TOP PAIRING DMAN.

Trading deadweight Yakupov for a 3rd to make room for a suprisingly useful Russell? poop.

Already amassing the points Edmonton had last season? poop.


You should really just stop.

- TheGiftofGod


You should really stop. Because he's. The rest are poop. Benning and Cagg are OK but nothing great so far. And guess who also put those deals in motion? Oh yeah that assistant gm guy.
Russell sucks. Kassian is a fourth line moron. Talbot was done by Mact. McLellan was in place before Chia started. There has been talk of the Oilers and the connection to Benson for years. And he hasn't done anything yet so I'm not sure why you think that's so great. Larsson for Hall was bad not just from a value stand point but because we are STILL looking for a top pair rh dman that has a two way game.

Your not too bright so it's no surprise you can't figure all of this out.

(frank) off JB!
TwoPumpChump91
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 03.04.2016

Feb 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
Taylor hall is vastly overrated. He tries to do everything on his own and turns the puck over alot. Amazingly talented player and I don't hate the trade, but look at devils inability to get the puck out effectively. Larson is missed. Not saying it was a bad trade, but just that dman are more valuable and Larson is a minute muncher who gets the puck out effectively at a young age on a great contract.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:40 PM ET


Yes. Not one of my brightest ideas.

I'm glad I'm not the GM.

- BINGO!

I was just thinking back on that when I was looking into the Canes last week. Good for a bit of a chuckle He and Slavin seem to be doing really well! How's Hanifin?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
Taylor hall is vastly overrated. He tries to do everything on his own and turns the puck over alot. Amazingly talented player and I don't hate the trade, but look at devils inability to get the puck out effectively. Larson is missed. Not saying it was a bad trade, but just that dman are more valuable and Larson is a minute muncher who gets the puck out effectively at a young age on a great contract.
- TwoPumpChump91


Larsson is last on the oilers in clean breakouts. Last in puck rushing.
Last in clean zone entries. And has zero offense. And is regularly 3-4 in ice time.

But hey he hits a lot...
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
You should really stop. Because he's. The rest are poop. Benning and Cagg are OK but nothing great so far. And guess who also put those deals in motion? Oh yeah that assistant gm guy.
Russell sucks. Kassian is a fourth line moron. Talbot was done by Mact. McLellan was in place before Chia started. There has been talk of the Oilers and the connection to Benson for years. And he hasn't done anything yet so I'm not sure why you think that's so great. Larsson for Hall was bad not just from a value stand point but because we are STILL looking for a top pair rh dman that has a two way game.

Your not too bright so it's no surprise you can't figure all of this out.

(frank) off JB!

- Iggysbff

I won't get into the rest of this because I'm rather weary of it, but are they really? I'm pretty sure the only thing that Chiarelli has mentioned is that they're looking for a RH PP QB. I don't recall anything being said about a two-way top pairing guy as Sekera and Klefbom have both been stepping up since game 30ish.
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