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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:36 PM ET
I honestly dont see a point in making a move until the off season unless something amazing comes about..

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 17 @ 8:40 PM ET
I honestly dont see a point in making a move until the off season unless something amazing comes about..
- opeth_pa

Yup. No reason to pay the premium now. Maybe they can sell Streit or MDZ for something half decent
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:46 PM ET
FYI Channel 594 Fios Western Michigan and Wade Allison are on entering the 3rd.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 8:47 PM ET
So it was interesting that you brought up Barzal because I'd been thinking about a deal for him for a little while. He's probably one of the more realistic trade targets based on Garth Snow's job status and their current playoff position. If the Islanders were open to Schenn for Barzal+first (I would even lottery protect it for this season if they wanted) then the Flyers should jump on that.
- PhillySportsGuy


I read through that deal in my head and think it just sounds like an actual trade after the expansion draft. 55-60 point 25 year old winger signed for 3 more years for A- level prospect+mid 1st. The Islanders want to keep JT; they want to please him. Their NHL wingers are not up to par after letting Okposo go and Ladd busting. I don't think they have that answer in-system right now for the next few years at least. It helps both teams AND Garth and Hexy have a friendship. It's intra-divisional but still makes sense. That's a chance at acquiring a top 6 center + another quality mid 1st player + our own probable top 10 pick. It would be a fantastic trade for the future.

Another thought I had. Let's say Nico goes #2 and a team like Dallas or Vancouver or Arizona or Winnipeg gets the pick....teams who could spare it in a weaker draft and maybe want depth and have a #1 center already....if the Flyers draft top 10, trading up to #2 isn't crazy. That's the type of deal where moving a roster player we've mentioned with the pick could be franchise changing.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 17 @ 8:52 PM ET
FYI Channel 594 Fios Western Michigan and Wade Allison are on entering the 3rd.
- Just5

Thanks!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:04 PM ET
I read through that deal in my head and think it just sounds like an actual trade after the expansion draft. 55-60 point 25 year old winger signed for 3 more years for A- level prospect+mid 1st. The Islanders want to keep JT; they want to please him. Their NHL wingers are not up to par after letting Okposo go and Ladd busting. I don't think they have that answer in-system right now for the next few years at least. It helps both teams AND Garth and Hexy have a friendship. It's intra-divisional but still makes sense. That's a chance at acquiring a top 6 center + another quality mid 1st player + our own probable top 10 pick. It would be a fantastic trade for the future.

Another thought I had. Let's say Nico goes #2 and a team like Dallas or Vancouver or Arizona or Winnipeg gets the pick....teams who could spare it in a weaker draft and maybe want depth and have a #1 center already....if the Flyers draft top 10, trading up to #2 isn't crazy. That's the type of deal where moving a roster player we've mentioned with the pick could be franchise changing.

- Mononoke


Not opposed to that deal, but my scouts would have to be head over heels for that player because now you're talking about consolidating assets for one player rather than spreading a wider net.

I really am curious if Hexy is even thinking about dealing guys like Schenn or Simmonds. I feel like he's just going to move 1 or 2 guys on expiring deals and keep with the status quo.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 9:16 PM ET
Not opposed to that deal, but my scouts would have to be head over heels for that player because now you're talking about consolidating assets for one player rather than spreading a wider net.

I really am curious if Hexy is even thinking about dealing guys like Schenn or Simmonds. I feel like he's just going to move 1 or 2 guys on expiring deals and keep with the status quo.

- PhillySportsGuy


I would take Hischier #1. Consolidating assets, sure, but if we're talking franchise level talent, it's worth considering.

I also worry Hextall has none of this stuff in his plans or thoughts.

Also, who are your scouts?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
I would take Hischier #1. Consolidating assets, sure, but if we're talking franchise level talent, it's worth considering.

I also worry Hextall has none of this stuff in his plans or thoughts.

Also, who are your scouts?

- Mononoke



Flyers will trade Streit for a 3rd and take a solid two-way forward with the 13th pick.

Head scout is ob. Will likely instruct me to continue trading down so I can select all 205 players he likes.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 9:25 PM ET
Flyers will trade Streit for a 3rd and take a solid two-way forward with the 13th pick.

Head scout is ob. Will likely instruct me to continue trading down so I can select all 205 players he likes.

- PhillySportsGuy

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 17 @ 9:32 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/phi...up_the_flawed_Flyers.html
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:32 PM ET
I'm watching jackets/pens and I'm seeing big and fast skaters or smaller skaters that are fast with skill. Teams with players that look to get to the net, and these players aren't swarmed upon immediately because they have a fear of the other team's breakaway ability.

The flyers don't have the horses to compete with them...plain and simple imo

- Just5


the jackets are tough. size and speed. atkinson is the real deal.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:39 PM ET
I'd be very open to trading guys for picks in future drafts (2018 or later) if that's a possibility
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 9:49 PM ET
I'd be very open to trading guys for picks in future drafts (2018 or later) if that's a possibility
- PhillySportsGuy


Just doesn't happen unless they don't have picks for the current year. Like I said yesterday to someone, drafts balance out by the 3rd+ range anyway.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 9:56 PM ET
the jackets are tough. size and speed. atkinson is the real deal.
- stayinthefnnet


Yes and no. He is good but not this good. He's come back down to earth a bit from earlier in the year
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 9:59 PM ET
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:00 PM ET
Yes and no. He is good but not this good. He's come back down to earth a bit from earlier in the year
- YuenglingJagr


That should be the 2016-2017 motto for the entire Blue Jackets team
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 17 @ 10:07 PM ET
That should be the 2016-2017 motto for the entire Blue Jackets team
- Mononoke


the scoring may come back to earth but they are a good team thanks to Bob and a good defense. werenski-Jones, Johnson-Savard and Murray-Nutivaara. they are doing quite well with Brandon freakin Dubinsky as their top center.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:07 PM ET
Spokane Chiefs vs. Kelowna Rockets is about to start on NHL Network.

Lots to see. Flyers 3rd rounder Twarynski is on Kelowna, but there's like 4 top prospects in there for the draft. Kailer Yamamoto, one of my absolute favorites, and Anderson-Dolan (a potential 1st/2nd guy who I'm a fan of too) are on Spokane. Then on Kelowna, there's Cal Foote (not so much) and Kole Lind, both potential 1st/2nds.

I watch Spokane quite a lot because Yamamoto is one of the most fun prospects out there....and their stream isn't complete crap.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 17 @ 10:21 PM ET
Spokane Chiefs vs. Kelowna Rockets is about to start on NHL Network.

Lots to see. Flyers 3rd rounder Twarynski is on Kelowna, but there's like 4 top prospects in there for the draft. Kailer Yamamoto, one of my absolute favorites, and Anderson-Dolan (a potential 1st/2nd guy who I'm a fan of too) are on Spokane. Then on Kelowna, there's Cal Foote (not so much) and Kole Lind, both potential 1st/2nds.

I watch Spokane quite a lot because Yamamoto is one of the most fun prospects out there....and their stream isn't complete crap.

- Mononoke


been watching Michigan/Wisconsin Marody with the Lone Michigan goal
Slipperypickle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 17 @ 10:33 PM ET
been watching Michigan/Wisconsin Marody with the Lone Michigan goal
- nastyflyergirl



He's looked good these last couple of weeks. Anybody know why Rubstov was scratched tonight?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:36 PM ET
Anybody know why Rubstov was scratched tonight?
- Slipperypickle

Something about General Flynn
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 18 @ 12:18 AM ET
That should be the 2016-2017 motto for the entire Blue Jackets team
- Mononoke

I'll allow it
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 18 @ 8:53 AM ET
Sam Carchidi must have been taking notes from this room yesterday as his column today pretty well sums up everything discussed here yesterday.

sell sell sell
Trade a core player
Bring up youth
Hextall fix team in off season
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 9:00 AM ET
Sam Carchidi must have been taking notes from this room yesterday as his column today pretty well sums up everything discussed here yesterday.

sell sell sell
Trade a core player
Bring up youth
Hextall fix team in off season

- 3flyerkids


Bout time someone started paying attention round here!
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:01 AM ET
Bout time someone started paying attention round here!

- BiggE


We are the voice of reason !!

Come on Ron... Can't you see that
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