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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:25 PM ET
I am going to throw something out here. It's a name I have been dreaming about.

Offer Simmonds, and perhaps something else for Draisaitl. I would very much be in line with this kind of deal.

- flyer_nutter

not. happening.

jfc people
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
not. happening.

jfc people

- YuenglingJagr

General Request: when poopooing a deal, please indicate which side would hang up the phone.

Thank you,
those of us who don't know better
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
I was at the game last night and Neuvirth was just awful. The Flyers controlled much of the first period and were in the game until those 2 quick goals that should have been stopped. Haven't read back but why was he playing on a back2back night? Something must be wrong with Mason as he should have been pulled from the game.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
You people are a mess! A MESS!
- Mononoke


Big, if true.
flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:26 PM ET
I think your eyes are a problem because Read has been a far more effective player this season than Weise. It's not even close.
- Feanor


The fact that anyone would take the time to seriously compare the ineffectiveness of their effectiveness is incomprehensible to begin with.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
You people are a mess! A MESS!
- Mononoke

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:28 PM ET
This is my point with some of the stats community. Looking at Read, he is a pile of poop. He has done nothing well, and is a warm body at best.

I'll end it here, agree to disagree.

- flyer_nutter


I'll take the stats community over the make a dumb statement I can't support with anything but a swear word community.

Read is effective in 16-17 at scoring points in a 3rd line role, and playing good defense that stops the other team from scoring. He also has the best goals allowed numbers of any PK forward. The only place he hasn't been effective is in his limited PP minutes.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
General Request: when poopooing a deal, please indicate which side would hang up the phone.

Thank you,
those of us who don't know better

- BulliesPhan87

the side that wouldn't want to trade the better, younger, cheaper, and capable of playing center player
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
You're just now realizing this?
- BulliesPhan87


Me? No. But sometimes the inmates in the looney bin forget they're inmates.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
That's fair. I don't envy Hextall right now, he has some tough decisions to make.
- BulliesPhan87


Its why I say rebuild.

I get there are some good pieces on this club. There are. I am looking into the future however. Its becoming more and more clear that the defense wotn be ready for a few years.

So I look to build the whole team AS A WHOLE toward that window. Put yourself into the best position you can for that time period, and dont worry about losing a few more games because quite frankly the team is POS today anyway, and a product that is hard to watch.

Today's Flyers are irrelevant, minus a few guys that will be here and contributing to them winning in a few years. Set yourself up for the future, and bring in the pieces needed to win then. Those are not going to be obtained drafting 14th and trading the Brayden Schenn's or MDZ's.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
They can have any forward but Simmonds.

I'm looking at Calgary and wondering if there is any way a deal could be made for Monahan. Won't be cheap but that's the kind of 1C I think they need to build around.

- hereticpride

Monahan would be nice but I don't see Calgary moving him just like the Flyers won't move Simmonds.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
Whats everyone think about the Antoine Vermette suspension?
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr



Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
I was at the game last night and Neuvirth was just awful. The Flyers controlled much of the first period and were in the game until those 2 quick goals that should have been stopped. Haven't read back but why was he playing on a back2back night? Something must be wrong with Mason as he should have been pulled from the game.
- Daceroni


Seems like the coach has lost faith in him.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
I'll take the stats community over the make a dumb statement I can't support with anything but a swear word community.

Read is effective in 16-17 at scoring points in a 3rd line role, and playing good defense that stops the other team from scoring. He also has the best goals allowed numbers of any PK forward. The only place he hasn't been effective is in his limited PP minutes.

- Feanor


Cool. I'm okay to disagree, I think he should be far away from this club and his spot should have been one of the top candidate spots for Leier or Laughton this season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
I am going to throw something out here. It's a name I have been dreaming about.

Offer Simmonds, and perhaps something else for Draisaitl. I would very much be in line with this kind of deal.

- flyer_nutter


The "something else" is going to be the driving point of the deal. I don't think Edmonton moves Draisaitl for the world, but:

One of Sanheim/Myers
Konecny
Simmonds
Schenn
1st
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
Soon I'm going to write a brief post destroying (DESTROYING!) the inane things I've read here today. Just need to finish my hype video for it first.......
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
Whats everyone think about the Antoine Vermette suspension?
- jak521


Pretty cut and dry.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
Me? No. But sometimes the inmates in the looney bin forget they're inmates.
- Mononoke



Ohh believe me I know. My views change daily. Lately I am pro rebuild.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
I would throw a party if AMAC was taken by vegas. speaking of AMAC how much salary/cap space would people be willing to retain if you all were the GM?
- nastyflyergirl


For what return?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 2:32 PM ET
Soon I'm going to write a brief post destroying (DESTROYING!) the inane things I've read here today. Just need to finish my hype video for it first.......
- Mononoke

the race is on
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
Cool. I'm okay to disagree, I think he should be far away from this club and his spot should have been one of the top candidate spots for Leier or Laughton this season.
- flyer_nutter


Read's played better than VdV, Bellemare, Weise and Lyubimov. Read's not taking Laughton and Leier's spot - they are.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
the side that wouldn't want to trade the better, younger, cheaper, and capable of playing center player
- YuenglingJagr

ty
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:34 PM ET
the race is on
- YuenglingJagr


Intrigued to see it. I find far too many are still simply scared poop of the word rebuild or admitting the truth with G.

Want to build for the future, but scared poop to trade anyone who isn't Brayden Schenn or MDZ.

Too scared to suck for a few years? Enjoy mediocrity.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
Read's played better than VdV, Bellemare, Weise and Lyubimov. Read's not taking Laughton and Leier's spot - they are.
- Feanor


Leier and Laughton were never getting VDV/Belle's spots.

Who is the coach?
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