Well somebody will get hot when it no longer matters. After many of Voracek's shifts I keep looking for the 3 judges to hold up their score cards after he went on another trip around the outside of the rink. He needs to mix in a triple salchow every now and then. For heaven's sake take the puck hard to the net on occasion.
- MJL

Oh you know the whole team will get hot when they are out of the race and sitting in the 7-8 range and finish drafting 14th (well 15th cause of LV)...cause, well, Flyers

The Flyers are a nice cocktail of the following ingredients.

1) declining star player
2) Underachieving players
3) Poor mixture of forwards. ( too many grinders, not enough skill and speed)
4) Continued poor puck management and blown defensive coverage.
5)lousy goaltending
6) Lack of top defenseman

Mix it all together and you get a cocktail you poor down the drain.

The Flyers are a nice cocktail of the following.

1) declining star player
2) Underachieving players
3) Poor mixture of forwards. ( too many grinders, not enough skill and speed)
4) Continued poor puck management and blown defensive coverage.
5)lousy goaltending

Mix it all together and you get a cocktail you poor down the drain.
- MJL

Pretty accurate.

I actually thought the goaltending would be great this year. both guys fighting for a contract. I really thought it was going to be a strength. It's almost like the pressure was just too much for them. So many soft goals that leave you shaking your head.

The Flyers are a nice cocktail of the following ingredients.

1) declining star player
2) Underachieving players
3) Poor mixture of forwards. ( too many grinders, not enough skill and speed)
4) Continued poor puck management and blown defensive coverage.
5)lousy goaltending
6) Lack of top defenseman

Mix it all together and you get a cocktail you poor down the drain.
- MJL

Is that shaken or stirred?

The Flyers are a nice cocktail of the following ingredients.

1) declining star player
2) Underachieving players
3) Poor mixture of forwards. ( too many grinders, not enough skill and speed)
4) Continued poor puck management and blown defensive coverage.
5)lousy goaltending
6) Lack of top defenseman

Mix it all together and you get a cocktail you poor down the drain.
- MJL

Oh my...look who's talking crap about the Flyers. Mr. Orange & Black

/snaps picture

Jake of late but not his overall season. Coots has been a major disappointment outside of the first week or two but I still have hope he will get back to being the player he was in the pens series.
- nastyflyergirl

I don't think Voracek's overall season has been anything special. He's being paid like a top player. He needs to be much better.

Is that shaken or stirred?
- arichardson22

whichever is cheapest, obviously

Is that shaken or stirred?
- arichardson22

Mangled with the garbage disposal.

Mangled with the garbage disposal.
- MJL

Oh my...look who's talking crap about the Flyers. Mr. Orange & Black

/snaps picture
- Corporate_hater

I wear that label with pride. I have always consistently called it like I see it.

That would be a miracle at this point. 75-80 points would be top 10 in the league.
- BiggE

I will take 65-70 at this point.

So with Tampa having an eventual tough summer with decisions between their RFAs and having to protect Callahan and Fillipula, do you think Palat or Johnson would be a good fit for our team via trade?

I don't think Voracek's overall season has been anything special. He's being paid like a top player. He needs to be much better.
- MJL

Voracek is good at getting into good areas, but his production has been lacking.

The Flyers are a nice cocktail of the following ingredients.

1) declining star player
2) Underachieving players
3) Poor mixture of forwards. ( too many grinders, not enough skill and speed)
4) Continued poor puck management and blown defensive coverage.
5)lousy goaltending
6) Lack of top defenseman

Mix it all together and you get a cocktail you poor down the drain.
- MJL

In your opinion would you add a 7th, that they are a soft team, that gets easily pushed around? IMO I think they are a bit soft too. I'd like to see a little more grit and some size.

If we look at the Flyers overall team game, we see a few good things. They are able to generate a solid amount of shots, and they're pretty good at limiting shots of the opposition. The problem is that the shots they do give up are a lot of high quality shots due to poor coverage and puck management. That is fixable, without adding a single player. Adding better players would certainly help. That inconsistency is on the coaching staff. Offensively, the quality of shots they generate is not good. That's because they lack high end talent skill and speed. They don't have enough players who can create quality chances, and the players they do have, have not played well overall. They have plenty of grinders who can get in on the puck on the wall, and battle for it, but nothing much happens. That is a clear indication that the mixture of players needs to change. That includes getting more defenseman who spend less time defending and more time getting the puck back, and helping to create. Mix in the poor goaltending, and we have what we have.

In your opinion would you add a 7th, that they are a soft team, that gets easily pushed around? IMO I think they are a bit soft too. I'd like to see a little more grit and some size.
- hockeylover

No, I would not. Flyers are pretty good at controlling play, and winning board battles. Shot differential shows that. I think a lot of what makes that appear so is that the Flyers frequently allow themselves to be outnumbered on the puck.

Just for all those who say we should never trade Simmonds.

Last night you saw what can happen to a power forward over time and the reason I suggest maybe moving Simmonds while value is never higher.

Lucic is a shell of what he was and signed long term.

When I watch Giroux play right now, I see a man who has lost a lot of heart and passion for the game. Maybe his head is in another place? Fiance or maybe some butt grabbing...who knows..

You all are kind of overthinking it.

Vegas is probably going to focus on a couple of things in the expansion draft: players that can help them right away, and players that have value in the trade market so they can build their asset base.

I like Taylor Leier, but there's no reason to spend a protection slot on him. There's no guarantee he's an NHL player, and he's not gonna fetch anything beyond another fringe C-grade prospect at this point.

It's debatable whether or not they'd even be interested in Cousins and Manning.

When I watch Giroux play right now, I see a man who has lost a lot of heart and passion for the game. Maybe his head is in another place? Fiance or maybe some butt grabbing...who knows..
- Buzzo

Then that's a big problem considering they are paying him big money to give a damn

Not sure why everyone is so panicked/upset. This is exactly what we thought the team was- bubble at best. Perhaps the 10 game winning streak set unrealistic expectations?

On the trade front, I said this last year and the year before. I would trade G or Vcheck for the right return. It's all about ROI for a player. Once they are older and paid at a high rate that ROI almost always goes down, not always- see Jagr and many other freaks of nature. It is a young mans sport and you get much better ROI from a young player as you pay them less. For me, it is a no-brainer.

Simmonds, Coots and Schenn would be much more difficult for me. The big pay check is around the corner and puts them at a low ROI but I would need to see what they want for a contract first. I would certainly do it for the right return but would prefer to trade them next season. Simmonds better be a HUGE return, the guy is the heart and soul of the team, only All-Star and is a stud.

All of this is of course in the context of the 3-5 year window to be competitive.

You all are kind of overthinking it.

Vegas is probably going to focus on a couple of things in the expansion draft: players that can help them right away, and players that have value in the trade market so they can build their asset base.

I like Taylor Leier, but there's no reason to spend a protection slot on him. There's no guarantee he's an NHL player, and he's not gonna fetch anything beyond another fringe C-grade prospect at this point.

It's debatable whether or not they'd even be interested in Cousins and Manning.
- Tomahawk

Who would you protect?

I've said it in the past that I think protecting Manning would be a waste of an asset. The Flyers should be able to trade for someone at a discount. Someone who would be worth using that last defensive slot on.

You all are kind of overthinking it.

Vegas is probably going to focus on a couple of things in the expansion draft: players that can help them right away, and players that have value in the trade market so they can build their asset base.

I like Taylor Leier, but there's no reason to spend a protection slot on him. There's no guarantee he's an NHL player, and he's not gonna fetch anything beyond another fringe C-grade prospect at this point.

It's debatable whether or not they'd even be interested in Cousins and Manning.
- Tomahawk

I think over thinking it is stating that Vegas is going to concentrate on really the only kind of players that will be available to them. Does that really need to be said?

If we look at the Flyers overall team game, we see a few good things. They are able to generate a solid amount of shots, and they're pretty good at limiting shots of the opposition. The problem is that the shots they do give up are a lot of high quality shots due to poor coverage and puck management. That is fixable, without adding a single player. Adding better players would certainly help. That inconsistency is on the coaching staff. Offensively, the quality of shots they generate is not good. That's because they lack high end talent skill and speed. They don't have enough players who can create quality chances, and the players they do have, have not played well overall. They have plenty of grinders who can get in on the puck on the wall, and battle for it, but nothing much happens. That is a clear indication that the mixture of players needs to change. That includes getting more defenseman who spend less time defending and more time getting the puck back, and helping to create. Mix in the poor goaltending, and we have what we have.
- MJL

well said

Last night with Maroon going after Manning I was really thinking how nice it would have been to have Morin in the lineup.

I know Manning is tough and won't back down but it would be really nice to have our weapon to throw out there.