Provy was scratched already, no?
- jmdodgeser4

I think he got 1 game after the Chicago debacle. Which was merited.

Whens the trade deadline?

3pm on Wednesday, 3/1/2017. Flyers only have four games left before it.

Provy was scratched already, no?
- jmdodgeser4

Nope. One of only six Flyers to play 58/58 games so far.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...yed,gte,&sort=gamesPlayed

I look at Montreal. They want to move Plekanec. he has one more year at 6 million. I also think they would be willing to move Shaw. He has a deal at 3.9 million and isn't really giving them anything. I would do what I can not to retain any salary on Giroux. This is the idea I have in my head. Might not be perfect but I think close to the Dion deal.

To Montreal: Giroux, Laughton, Raffl, 3rd rounder

To Philly: Plekanec, Shaw, McCarron, 1st rounder


Montreal improves the top 6. Raffl plays a better role then Shaw. laughtonis a solid depth prospect for them.

Philly gets Plekanec who can be the number 1 center next year on final year. Shaw could be a solid depth guy if he can turn it around like when he was a hawk and is younger then Raffl. McCarron is a prospect with size which the Flyers need and they get a 1st rounder.

I don't think it's a terrible deal but I could be mistaken.
- J35Bacher

Giroux would be a god in Montreal. Not a fan of Plekanec but if a trade of that magnitude were to happen it would have to be something like this with lots of moving parts.

Giroux would be a god in Montreal. Not a fan of Plekanec but if a trade of that magnitude were to happen it would have to be something like this with lots of moving parts.
- 3flyerkids

Yeah, he would. If the main pieces were Giroux and Plekanec, the Flyers would not need to add extra pieces like Raffl. Montreal would be adding.

I haven't been able to watch much the last few months, so I kind of got to look things from first part of the season vs last night

WTF?

They have no idea what to do in their own zone. Who to pick up, where to stand. Hell they can't even seem to figure out when the right time to break out is.
They looked like you picked 18 guys from 18 different rec leagues and made them play together after introducing themselves on the bench.

Forget scoring. If you can figure out how to play and make decisions in your own zone, you won't have a good foundation to build out from.

Very disappointing
- nails

Yep, you pretty much "nailed" this on the head, no pun intended. I feel the same way. Disgraceful. You would have to think to yourself what is Hak doing with these guys in practice?

http://www.philly.com/phi...lay_Hakstol_s_system.html


Donnellon is on to something here.




It also perfectly illustrates that quality of shots taken, and given up, matter.
- MBFlyerfan

Wait for it!

Lindblom is a nice player but really a complimentary piece. He's coming in to demote raffl
- Just5

There is absolutely no way of telling.

He could come in and struggle.
He could come in and be a good middle 6 left winger.
He could come in and do exactly what he has done in every other league he has played in and be a near ppg player.

There really is no way to be sure what we have until he gets here. The promising thing about Lindblom is that he just continues to get better and better. He 7 point in 8 games in a small sample of the AHL last year, and then goes out and has been one of the best all around players (maybe even the best) in the SHL this year. He is 20.

There is absolutely no way of telling.

He could come in and struggle.
He could come in and be a good middle 6 left winger.
He could come in and do exactly what he has done in every other league he has played in and be a near ppg player.

There really is no way to be sure what we have until he gets here. The promising thing about Lindblom is that he just continues to get better and better. He 7 point in 8 games in a small sample of the AHL last year, and then goes out and has been one of the best all around players (maybe even the best) in the SHL this year. He is 20.
- jak521

Could be added to the Phantoms later in the season for a Calder playoff run? That would give up a good look.

3pm on Wednesday, 3/1/2017. Flyers only have four games left before it.



Nope. One of only six Flyers to play 58/58 games so far.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...yed,gte,&sort=gamesPlayed
- Feanor

2 of which are against Washington, and the outdoor game in Pittsburgh. Barring the unforeseen, they will be dead and buried. Hextall has to acquire some assets for the UFA's they have. I know they don't have a ton of value, Schultz and VDV have zero value, but he's got to at least get some draft picks.

I look at Montreal. They want to move Plekanec. he has one more year at 6 million. I also think they would be willing to move Shaw. He has a deal at 3.9 million and isn't really giving them anything. I would do what I can not to retain any salary on Giroux. This is the idea I have in my head. Might not be perfect but I think close to the Dion deal.

To Montreal: Giroux, Laughton, Raffl, 3rd rounder

To Philly: Plekanec, Shaw, McCarron, 1st rounder


Montreal improves the top 6. Raffl plays a better role then Shaw. laughtonis a solid depth prospect for them.

Philly gets Plekanec who can be the number 1 center next year on final year. Shaw could be a solid depth guy if he can turn it around like when he was a hawk and is younger then Raffl. McCarron is a prospect with size which the Flyers need and they get a 1st rounder.

I don't think it's a terrible deal but I could be mistaken.
- J35Bacher

Not a fan of that deal really.

Its basically a move to "dump" Giroux, and doesnt really address serious areas of concern. That MTL is likely a late round pick at best, in a bad draft year.

If you are moving Giroux, Laugton, Raffl and a pick, you better be looking for a dynamic return. If you can get it you dont do it.

Wait for it!
- MJL

For the most part I think it was well writtten and I agree with the overrall theme. The collective players aren't good enough. They try hard. More consistent effort than they ever gave lavy for the lavy lovers. I think Donnellon nailed it

Could be added to the Phantoms later in the season for a Calder playoff run? That would give up a good look.
- MJL

I think that is likely. One situation that I wouldnt really like to see is the whole "burn a year to get him to come over" and have him play with the Flyers. I hate those moves.

I think that is likely. One situation that I wouldnt really like to see is the whole "burn a year to get him to come over" and have him play with the Flyers. I hate those moves.
- jak521

dont think there is any chance that happens

Where does the first goal rank on this season's rankings of worst goals to give up? It has been incredible how bad some of these are.

For the most part I think it was well writtten and I agree with the overrall theme. The collective players aren't good enough. They try hard. More consistent effort than they ever gave lavy for the lavy lovers. I think Donnellon nailed it
- Just5

So in short, the players aren't good enough and they are backed up by a coach who makes a ton of questionable decisions. Sounds like a stellar combination.

I keep hearing everyone say they are exactly what we thought they would be. A playoff bubble team. Right? Right? Well there is 25 games to go, and they have a 3% chance to make the playoffs. Not exactly the definition of bubble. Now what?
- PLindbergh31

sell. I always root for the playoffs but honestly if they are not going to make it I want them to sell and be passed over by more teams. get in the top 10 to maybe get a shot at a big center like Michael Rasmussen or a goal scorer like Eeli Tolvanen. as soon as Lindblom's season is over get the kid signed to an entry level contract and have him sign a ATO with the Phantoms. hopefully he will be ready to play at some point next season. Sink or swim with kids like Laughton, Leier, Cousins, Weal, Hagg and Morin next season. Sanheim at some point too. I want to see the lineup injected with youth

http://www.philly.com/phi...lay_Hakstol_s_system.html


Donnellon is on to something here.




It also perfectly illustrates that quality of shots taken, and given up, matter.
- MBFlyerfan

Nothing against the article, thought it was good but I do hate when articles (almost everyone does) refer to juniors numbers. These guys are all in the NHL, of course they torched the lower leagues they played in coming up. People refer to Couteriers all the time but I honestly just don't think he has that scoring touch, still a decent player.

I think that is likely. One situation that I wouldnt really like to see is the whole "burn a year to get him to come over" and have him play with the Flyers. I hate those moves.
- jak521

I don't mind them if it's necessary to get a good player in the organization. They did it last year with Lyon. He was a college free agent, so it's not the same thing. But Lindblom has played so well he may feel he leverage to shrink his ELC down to two effective years, rather than three.

I don't mind them if it's necessary to get a good player in the organization. They did it last year with Lyon. He was a college free agent, so it's not the same thing. But Lindblom has played so well he may feel he leverage to shrink his ELC down to two effective years, rather than three.
- Feanor

Thats kind of my fear. His season is coming to a close, and they will probably do well in the playoffs, but come mid-late march he should be on his way over. Id hate to see a situation where he say's - Ive done the AHL thing and excelled, and then dominated probably the best league outside of the NHL- I am ready to play in the NHL.

Donnellon claims we have too many good defensive centers. Who are they?

I look at Montreal. They want to move Plekanec. he has one more year at 6 million. I also think they would be willing to move Shaw. He has a deal at 3.9 million and isn't really giving them anything. I would do what I can not to retain any salary on Giroux. This is the idea I have in my head. Might not be perfect but I think close to the Dion deal.

To Montreal: Giroux, Laughton, Raffl, 3rd rounder

To Philly: Plekanec, Shaw, McCarron, 1st rounder


Montreal improves the top 6. Raffl plays a better role then Shaw. laughtonis a solid depth prospect for them.

Philly gets Plekanec who can be the number 1 center next year on final year. Shaw could be a solid depth guy if he can turn it around like when he was a hawk and is younger then Raffl. McCarron is a prospect with size which the Flyers need and they get a 1st rounder.

I don't think it's a terrible deal but I could be mistaken.
- J35Bacher

sell. I always root for the playoffs but honestly if they are not going to make it I want them to sell and be passed over by more teams. get in the top 10 to maybe get a shot at a big center like Michael Rasmussen or a goal scorer like Eeli Tolvanen. as soon as Lindblom's season is over get the kid signed to an entry level contract and have him sign a ATO with the Phantoms. hopefully he will be ready to play at some point next season. Sink or swim with kids like Laughton, Leier, Cousins, Weal, Hagg and Morin next season. Sanheim at some point too. I want to see the lineup injected with youth
- nastyflyergirl

I agree. Selling is a no brainer. Unfortunately the pieces they have to sell won't bring back much value. But still you have to get what you can.
If Streit, MDZ, and one of the goalies aren't traded at the deadline you have to start questioning what Hextall is doing.

- hereticpride

Nothing against the article, thought it was good but I do hate when articles (almost everyone does) refer to juniors numbers
- ClaudeFather

I think using only goals to judge offensive effectiveness is worse. It unfairly downplays the contribution of a player like Konecny when you ignore all his assists.

Joe Thornton has 5 goals in 58 games and a few of those are ENGs, but I'm pretty sure we could use a guy like him right now.